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10-09-2007, 06:07 PM
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| | | Pizza?? I'm trying to be good when eating because my hubby can't eat like he use to. I hate to eat things he can't have. So I'm eating like him to help me take off some pounds. Diabetes runs on both sides of my family. What about pizza, thin crust pepperoni? How many pieces can he have. He usually eats 4. I quess he will have to cut back.Anyone have a lower carb pizza crust recipe? Thanks for your help. | 
10-09-2007, 06:24 PM
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| | Hello Barb.....How many slices can he have? the answer is 0 for most of us, unless he doesnt mind a spike in his sugar level.
I have tried several different versions of crust,and NONE of them kept me to low. I would spike to about 120 after 1 slice.
Its probably best for him to have it occasionally,but try to eliminate ie altogether. sAni_babymonkey2.gif
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10-09-2007, 06:38 PM
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| | | The only way to tell is to try & see. Thin crust pizza never seems to bother me, though my target is higher than Bryan's -- I'm happy at less than 140 after two hours. The last time I had thin crust pizza (four slices), I was at 128 after two hours. The last time I had thick crust pizza, I was at 186 after two hours. | 
10-09-2007, 06:49 PM
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| | | Hi!
Pepperoni pizza is never likley to be a health food! The meat is just too fatty, not to mention the large amounts of cheese found on most commercially made pizzas.
I make a home made vegetarian pizza that is quite healthy - pita bread base, tomato paste spread on base, lots of mushrooms, capsicum (peppers? in the US?) tomato, some pineapple, and a small amount of low fat cheese. You could make a meat version by using lean meat as well.
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10-09-2007, 08:11 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Cicero, IL
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| | I make a meat based pizza at home. Take 1 lb of ground italian sausage and roll it out on a 9x13 parchment lined pan with a edge around it. It will be approximately 1/8th of an inch thick.
Place in 450 degree for 10 minutes
Remove from oven and drain grease
Top with you favorite low carb pizza sauce, add slice red peppers, mushrooms, slice red onions or whatever else you like. Add lots of mozzarella cheese, (I even put pepperoni on top of mine) return to the 450 degree oven and bake for 10 to
15 minutes until the cheese is melted and bubbly.
Let cool for 10 minutes and then enjoy! | 
10-10-2007, 05:21 AM
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| | | Don't forget pizza sauce can have LOTS of carbs (sugar) in it. It varies wildly for me which pizza I can tolerate.
I like to have a good deep dish, like Giordano's or Gino's East, and I just leave the crust behind.
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10-10-2007, 05:22 AM
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| | | When i'm really craving pizza, i'll take a low-carb tortilla, add tomato sauce and dried italian seasonings, a few slices of pepperoni and cover with cheese. Ill put it in the oven on broil until the cheese is bubbly and beginning to brown. You could add the toppings of your choice, but go easy on the sauce as it can get runny. It's a good alternative and takes care of that craving. I've had a slice of regular thin-crust cheese pizza but it generally pushes my blood sugar higher than I like, AND one piece of thin crust just isn't enough for me.
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10-10-2007, 05:44 AM
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| | | Pepperoni pizza is a no no for me. It usually is OK 2 hours later but 4 to 6 hours because ofthe fat I can be at 200 easy. I have tried dual wave bolus and it still is not right. I have gotten to like a veggie thin crust pizza that works pretty well for me. I try to limit myself to only 2 slices. Any more than that and I will be quite high at 2 hours regardless of the bolus. 4 slices of pepperoni on a thick crust would probably be most people total carb intake for a day if not more. You will need to expirement around to see what works best. Test a lot though.
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10-10-2007, 06:25 AM
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| | | Barb, pizza is fine, with pepperoni, even better. The problem is the amount he can eat. 4 slices was bad for him before and even worse now.
Yeah, you cannot eat the way you use to, that's part of the reason you're here now. MODERATION is your new mantra. The right pizza combination will now give such a spike as others but it's all going to be counted. Now that I've been into the program for awhile, I can eat 3 slices without much of a problem if its the right stuff and I prepare for it. He is no where near that point.
So 1 slice no more than once a week if he's been good, none if he's cheated. This idea applies to lots of thing, not just pizza.
If he is driven by goals, pick his weight, then say he can have 3 slices every time he hits a new goal weight, say if he's 220, then at 205 200 195 etc. If he's over those numbers, no pizza.
Glad you are following his diet guidelines, it will help you as well. You'll even find that you will learn to love new foods that are better for you
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10-10-2007, 06:53 AM
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| | | Pizza-Yum I can never have more than one slice of any kind without paying the price. Pizza and pasta just don't mix with diabetes (in my case).
Geez, spiking to 120!!??? I always considering spiking to be over 180 or in the 200s...
If I could eat and get a 120 reading, I'd be so happy.
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10-10-2007, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by orpy I can never have more than one slice of any kind without paying the price. Pizza and pasta just don't mix with diabetes (in my case).
Geez, spiking to 120!!??? I always considering spiking to be over 180 or in the 200s...
If I could eat and get a 120 reading, I'd be so happy. |
I didnt think was 120 was good? From the sounds of it, thats pretty low??? If I ever climbed to 180 or higher, I think I would go to emergency!!  Im really strict on myself and If I spike to 120, I immediately put myself on water and canned tuna for the next 3 meals
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10-10-2007, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by bryan42 I didnt think was 120 was good? From the sounds of it, thats pretty low??? If I ever climbed to 180 or higher, I think I would go to emergency!!  Im really strict on myself and If I spike to 120, I immediately put myself on water and canned tuna for the next 3 meals | That's great you can keep it so low...
I've been working hard for 3 years now and I consider 120 to be an acceptable number.
I don't think that 180 would call for an emergency...for me, if I'm under 140 two hours after eating, I'm very pleased and so is my endo...
I'm thin and starve myself...by the way.
I just don't want others to get upset/discouraged regarding their numbers...120 is no way spiking in my opinion.
Keep up the good control! 
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10-10-2007, 08:38 AM
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When i'm really craving pizza, i'll take a low-carb tortilla, add tomato sauce and dried italian seasonings, a few slices of pepperoni and cover with cheese. Ill put it in the oven on broil until the cheese is bubbly and beginning to brown
| I make mine the same way as PrincessLinda, only I cook mine on the gas grill instead. The small tortilla's that I buy have 4g of carbs each and I usually can have 3 of them without a spike in my blood sugar.
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10-10-2007, 08:38 AM
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| | | 120 is good postmeal. We are all going to get higher numbers as our bodies don't regulate optiminally. Eating tuna for 3 meals does not sound like a healthy eating habit if you're not a shark.
If you are managing well, eating right, getting exercise, an occasional spike won't do any harm IMO. Its the days of high numbers that cause problems.
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10-10-2007, 01:51 PM
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| | | For type 2's, pizza is no longer an entree. It's more of our side dish to the huge salad that is needed to go along side the one or two small peices of pizza.
Watch out for sizing issues. 1 piece @ your pizzaria could be 3 slices @ mine. It's trial and error, just like Chinese food. But, be smart...look @ nutritional values and serving sizes. Pizza is one of those foods that you don't get alot of bang for your buck, nutrition/serving size wise. It's junk, that's why it's so good.
Just know....low carb, IMO, is no way to eat pizza. I'd rather eat cardboard w/ cheese if it's not the real thing.
I had Pizzeria Regina, a Boston landmark, last week. Sooooo gooood. I had one piece (they're pretty big)....and a nice salad. It's more than enough food...if you take your time.
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