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04-07-2008, 05:36 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lowell, MA
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| | | What can I drink and how much? I'm not a big alchol drinker, but I occassionally do have a bear or two or wine.
I'm a new type 2. I've read in this forums about wine etc. So drinking wine doesn't increase the BS that much. What about low carb beers? (like budlight or coorslight). How many beers (say in a can) do you drink and not worry about BS levels?  | 
04-07-2008, 05:40 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Mt. Dandenong, Victoria, Australia
Posts: 429
| | i am not a huge beer drinker. never have been. but i was delighted to find lots of low carb beers in australia! i find these do not affect BG if kept to say 2 bottles.
that said, dry red wine and hard liquor (in my case Wild Turkey) seem to bring my BGL down.
-- Joel.
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___________________________________________________________ Age: 53
Diagnosed: July, 2007
HbA1c's
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early July 2007: 16.2%
early Sept 2007: 8.0%
early Dec 2007: 5.9%
early Jun 2008: 6.4% (after my pancreatitis!)
Taking Diamicron MR 30mg 2 per day (1/2 max dose) | 
04-07-2008, 05:49 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 5,754
| | Not a beer drinker, but do have the occ. glass of red wine with no problems. I will also occ. have vodka or rum mixed with a s/f soda, again with no problems. I don't notice much difference in my blood sugars afterwards, good or bad (maybe i'm not having enough?  )
__________________ T2, diagnosed 8/31/06.
Byetta 5 mcg
HCTZ 12.5 mg every other day for BP
Enalapril 20 mg 1 daily (ace-inhibitor)
Low carb dieter, taking chromium, multivitamin and fish oil tablets Initial A1C 8/06: 9.6
11/06: 6.2.
03/07: 5.3
06/07: 5.4
10/07: 5.3
05/08: 6.2 (right after dealing with shingles and bronchitis) | 
04-07-2008, 03:31 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
Posts: 47
| | I drink 2 beers and I don't worry. I drink Canadian beer usually labatts, moosehead, sleemans, rickards. It tends to raise me a bit over the first 2 hours, then drops me a bit afterwards. The amount it drops me down seems to be directly in relation to how much I've drunk. 4-6 drinks has a much stronger effect on me, and requires a snack or small late night meal.. usually that is not a problem with me  I haven't really pushed past there, so I don't have much to report, but my understanding is you have to be very careful.
The only beer I found that screwed with me was Guinness so I've been avoiding that one, and other dark beers as well. I'm sure one would be fine though.
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04-07-2008, 04:57 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Vermont
Posts: 1,068
| | I'm also a new Type 2 on diet and exercise only. I like beer a lot, mostly ales, local microbrews, Guinness and stuff like that. I'm not really a "low carb" beer kinda guy.
Now I was putting away 12 per week for a long time but cut way back on beer when I decided to lose some weight - two weeks before Dx.
I have 1-2 drinks about 5 days per week. Mostly red wine, whiskey etc. But I'll still have 2-3 beers per week. I could probably do a bit more but I'm still losing weight.
Here's the thing. You gotta test to know. Do some quasi scientific sampling. Eat and exercise so that you know pretty well what to expect and let your meter decide how much of which and what you can do. That's all.  Start slow and test a lot, answers will come.
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04-07-2008, 05:12 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Rothesay, New Brunswick Canada, eh
Posts: 6,041
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by Evermont Here's the thing. You gotta test to know. Do some quasi scientific sampling. Eat and exercise so that you know pretty well what to expect and let your meter decide how much of which and what you can do. That's all.  Start slow and test a lot, answers will come. | Ya. 
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04-08-2008, 11:51 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
Posts: 16
| | Watch out for delicious microbrews- especially unfiltered ones! It's like eating a bagel! The beer snobs make fun of my Coors Lite until I tell them I'm diabetic. Then they feel bad and buy me drinks... heh heh.
I find that a glass of dry wine or some scotch before bed helps dampen my dawn phenomenon. | 
04-09-2008, 12:06 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Mt. Dandenong, Victoria, Australia
Posts: 429
| | Here is a link to the "Pure Blonde" low carb beer ad.
it is quite a hoot (IMHO).
-- Joel. YouTube - Pure Blonde beer ad
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__________________________________________________ _________ "Infinity isn't such a big deal. After all, it is only a point in the Seventh Dimension..."
___________________________________________________________ Age: 53
Diagnosed: July, 2007
HbA1c's
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early July 2007: 16.2%
early Sept 2007: 8.0%
early Dec 2007: 5.9%
early Jun 2008: 6.4% (after my pancreatitis!)
Taking Diamicron MR 30mg 2 per day (1/2 max dose) | 
04-09-2008, 04:25 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hastings Melbourne Australia
Posts: 2,489
| | I like Coopers Sparkling Ale, Stout, Pale Ale, And there is one other too.
The amount of whatever you drink is not affected until you see the hard stuff. Like Rum for instance, Then you will see a drop in BG real quick. Vodka is even faster!!
Hik*** Err whare is that beer... Arr there you are.
__________________ We inject to stay alive!!! So that i can enjoy what you enjoy!!!  Peter... Insulins Novorapid and Levemir. 
So I am well armed to enjoy food of any kind!!! | 
04-09-2008, 05:08 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Dublin, Ireland
Posts: 1,548
| | | As Evermont and Xmenace have said, the only way to really know is to test. Suppose it gives you a reason to have a couple of beers!
I had "some" beer last weekend and it worked out okay for me, but generally I stick to red wine as it works really well for me.
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Diagnosed Type II on 26th November 2007
Metformin 500mg twice daily
Enap 5mg
Initial A1c (14th Dec07): 11.6%
15th Jan'08: 9% 
3rd March'08 6.8% 
6th June'08 6.1% | 
04-09-2008, 05:11 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Rothesay, New Brunswick Canada, eh
Posts: 6,041
| | Wrong Peter. Alcohol from any drink can drop you low. I've had beer hypos. But you're probably right that hard stuff is more noticeable as there's next to nothing to bolus for.
I used to let beer's calories compensate for the low, but now I bolus for the carbs and reduce basal for the alcohol.
__________________ Michael Pollan on CBC In Defense of Food with Michael Pollan T1 1975, MM 722 pump
A1C 4/08 6.0%
Called John, plus many other things
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John's Troll Meter - current level: Cold | 
04-09-2008, 05:27 AM
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I am a: Type 1.5 | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Kapiti, New Zealand
Posts: 797
| | I have no answer - other than to agree wholeheartedly with what Evermont says here: Quote: |
You gotta test to know. Do some quasi scientific sampling. Eat and exercise so that you know pretty well what to expect and let your meter decide how much of which and what you can do. That's all.
| I think that's the best advice you could ever get on the matter
And while we're talking about beer and funny commercials... YouTube - Best Beer Commercial ever
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04-09-2008, 11:26 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Essex
Posts: 159
| | | Don't drink my-self, I've always believe in the theory, alcohol and med's are a bad mixed, I suppose some harm can be caused, if you're habitual, and makes it a practice of becoming constantly paralytic.
B/7 ESSEX UK. | 
04-09-2008, 11:50 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: Massachusetts, US
Posts: 360
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Originally Posted by shutterbug I'm not a big alchol drinker, but I occassionally do have a bear or two or wine.
I'm a new type 2. I've read in this forums about wine etc. So drinking wine doesn't increase the BS that much. What about low carb beers? (like budlight or coorslight). How many beers (say in a can) do you drink and not worry about BS levels?  | Are you on Bayetta or Metfomin? Both don't mix well with alchohol. I haven't had a bear for a while now. Bayetta has been know to cause pancreatitis for patients that only had a few drinks. Also metformin is brutal on the liver. I actally want to reduce my metformin intake and check to see if a glass of wine before bed will reduce my fasting glucose levels. I think the wine is easier on the liver than the metformin is.
My liver is ok, but it is getting beat up by the Metformin. The Albumin is on the high side of normal. It used to be just below mid-normal. | 
04-09-2008, 02:55 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lowell, MA
Posts: 209
| | | Jerry,
I'm taking metformin. From what you are saying, I guess beer and metformin doesn't go well together! |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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