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07-27-2008, 02:42 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas
Posts: 67
| | | Hamburgers are evil
I just went out to eat at a hamburger place and my BS is now a mess. I thought I was smart. My starting BS was 94. I took a 2 unit bolus of humalog after I ordered my burger. I had 3 small sips of my husband's shake and then ate 2/3 of my hamburger (with cheese) and many french fries. At the end of the meal, my BS was still the same. About one hour later my BS jumped rapidly to 162, so I took one more unit bolus. Then another hour later, my BS went to 216. Now I was annoyed.  This time instead of a pump bolus, I took an 3 unit insulin pen bolus (I can inject these deeper than the pump. Now, at over 2 and half hours from my evil hamburger my BS continues to rise and is 242. I don't dare take more insulin, because I can drop to 30 in the blink of an eye.
Any suggestions? I am thinking about taking the dogs for a walk, but it is 96 degrees outside and I might get indigestion so close to a big meal.  |
07-27-2008, 02:44 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: birmingham, uk
Posts: 152
| | | oo i dunno maybe if you have stairs in your home run up and down them a few times, do something like that. |
07-27-2008, 03:12 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NYC
Posts: 2,763
| | | Hamburgers & fries not only have lots of carbs (hamburger buns, anyway, not the actual meat!) and they have even more FAT! Fat slows the digestion of the carbs which is why your BG remained the same for awhile and then started to climb and climb and climb some more. A dual wave or square wave bolus is ideal for a meal like that. For really high fat meals I tryt to figure the carbs and then add in at least 50% more insulin. I do a dual wave, giving maybe 1/3 right away and the rest over time. Depends on what and how much I'm eating. The only way to know is to experiment.
I never, ever do a normal bolus for any restaurant (including fast food) meal. Maybe a Subway sandwich but that's about it!
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Liz
Type 1 dx 4/1987
Minimed Paradigm 722 6/2008 + CGMS
13mm Silhouettes + Sure-T infusion sets
Lifescan UltraSmart & UltraMini
Last A1c: 7/15/09: 5.8
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07-27-2008, 03:37 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sydney Australia
Posts: 1,582
| | | I've not had any problem with hamburgers .
I avoid the fast food place that has sugar loaded buns etc & go to the independantly owned hamburger shop.
They will make it to your requirements eg no extra fat on the grill when cooking or no butter.
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Lee
Dx Dec 07 Control...nutrition & exercise
Latest A1c 6.1
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07-27-2008, 04:01 PM
|  | Senior Member | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Chandler, AZ
Posts: 1,122
| | | I don't have trouble with the hamburgers.. it's the fries!!! Fries are evil, but oh so tasty!
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Jill
Metformin
Levemir 2x's daily
Humalog as needed
NPH 5U at midnight for DP
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07-27-2008, 05:09 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Brunswick Canada, eh
Posts: 8,976
| | I had an Angus Burger at Rotten Ronnies on Saturday, the first time there since ... I can't even remember. It behaved very well, and it wasn't that bad  |
07-27-2008, 07:30 PM
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I am a: Pre-Diabetic | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Greater San Diego area
Posts: 2,524
| | | I avoid buns and fries.
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Dx prediabetic 02/08 (FBG 127 and 123)
A1c 02/08: 6.5; A1c 05/08: 6.0
A1c 11/08: 5.5; A1c 03/09: 5.3
A1c 09/09: 5.4
No meds
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07-27-2008, 07:39 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,964
| | | @?3 burger and all the fries along with some shake and you blame t he burger, the only thing you mentioned you ate that would not do that.
So good burger, bad fries, bad ketchup, bad buns
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07-27-2008, 10:15 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas
Posts: 102
| | | I always eat the child size bun. Never eat any fries. |
07-27-2008, 11:30 PM
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I am a: Type 1.5 | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: Federal Way, Wa
Posts: 2,106
| | Lets use the penultimate evil of Fast Food "McDonalds" as an example. My favorite combo is the Double Quarter Pound Cheese Burger and Large Fries. The burger, bun, and other ingredients are approx 40 Carbs. The Large fries are 70. I love fries, but they are pure evil.  For me that's about a 5.5 unit bolus. |
07-28-2008, 06:28 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oak Hill, VA
Posts: 645
| | | Betty,
You have been a diabetic for a long time. Burger buns have carbs, shakes have serious carbs, and OMG fries!!!!! When you were first diagnosed, you were probably told you could eat anything you wanted, just take your insulin and everything will be ok. Well that is just not true. Measure and restrict your carb intake and make sure your insulin is able to keep your blood sugar under control.
I really encourage you to get on top of things. There are really helpful people here who can be very sympathetic to what you are going through. Take care of yourself, you deserve to live a fulfilling life both for yourself and those around you.
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T2 since 7/05. 48 yrs. 5'11 195 lbs.
Exercise, very low carb diet
HbA1c 9/07 - 6.3%, 3/08 - 6.2%, 6/08 - 6.2% |
07-28-2008, 06:32 AM
|  | Senior Member | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Mt. Dandenong, Victoria, Australia
Posts: 1,862
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianSCohen  Betty,
You have been a diabetic for a long time. Burger buns have carbs, shakes have serious carbs, and OMG fries!!!!! When you were first diagnosed, you were probably told you could eat anything you wanted, just take your insulin and everything will be ok. Well that is just not true. Measure and restrict your carb intake and make sure your insulin is able to keep your blood sugar under control.
I really encourage you to get on top of things. There are really helpful people here who can be very sympathetic to what you are going through. Take care of yourself, you deserve to live a fulfilling life both for yourself and those around you. | ditto. i now you are getting bombarded with info here - but i would encourage you to search on "Richard Bernstein" and "The Law of Small Numbers" on the internet.
-- Joel.
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Feb 2010: A1C (home): 5.2% Oct 2009: A1C: 5.7%;
Triglycerides: 53 (0.6); HDL chol: 50 (1.2); LDL chol: 19.5 (0.5); total cholesterol 87.5
Lantus before bed - 30u; Novorapid for meals (averaging 20-30u per day); Lowish carb diet |
07-28-2008, 06:35 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 6,531
| |  !... why blame the hamburger..? cheese, dressing, bun, fries, "sips" of shake 
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51 year old male, Metabolic Syndrome Dx Mar. 2003 "This junk food has got to go... it's full of chemicals, trans-fats and hard pore corn!"
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07-28-2008, 06:56 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 11,088
| | | I eat burgers frequently, just without the bun. As for fries, I steal 2-3 off hubby's plate when I want one. I've not had a milk shake in a couple of years. If you really feel you must have a bun to enjoy your burger, have the bottom of the bun, cut in half and eat 1/2 your burger with the bun and 1/2 without, and throw away the top.
If you're making burgers at home, try the Nature's Own double fiber buns....I do well with them, though they aren't as good as "regular" buns....and i've gotten used to bunless burgers.
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T2, diagnosed 8/31/06.
Metformin 500 mg twice daily
HCTZ 12.5 mg every other day for BP
Enalapril 20 mg 1 daily (ace-inhibitor)
Lower carb dieter (approx. 75 total carbs/day, more on weekends), taking chromium, multivitamin and fish oil tablets
Initial A1C 8/06: 9.6
11/06: 6.2.
03/07: 5.3
06/07: 5.4
10/07: 5.3
05/08: 6.2 (after dealing with shingles & bronchiti)
2/09: 5.5 |
07-28-2008, 07:35 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sarasota (sort of) Florida
Posts: 1,317
| | | I love a good burger.
I even have a Big Mac once in a while. Like 3 times a year.
But fries??? Ohhh nooooooooooooooooooo.
Cole slaw is my substitute for the fries.
Yes, I eat the bun too.
Art
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