insulin overdoseas suicide attempt
Posted 18 October 2006 - 08:33 AM
Posted 18 October 2006 - 08:46 AM
Try to keep your chin up and I'll add my thoughts and prayers.
"This one makes a net. This one sits and wishes. Can you make a bet, which one catches fishes?"
Syd--20 years Type II diabetes 18 years insulin dependent.
Posted 18 October 2006 - 09:02 AM
Posted 18 October 2006 - 09:04 AM
As for the insulin causing anything. Unless he injected an entire vial, that's a mute point. From my understanding is if a non-diabetic injects insulin, their pancreas just won't produce any during the time the insulin is in effect. If they inject too much, their pancreas will shut off for that period and then their liver will dump glucose into the blood stream to counteract it. How much the body can take, I really have no idea.
I would remain hopeful that he'll come out alright. And then I hope he can get the treatment he needs so he can lead a great life. Sorry this is happening to you, if you need anything else, just ask.
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Posted 18 October 2006 - 09:17 AM
I do know that there are tests and procedures that can be done to measure brain activity. My best friend was in an automobile accident around 12 years ago and they did all sorts of tests before deciding there was no brain activity. If you have any doubt, don't be afraid to ask for a 2nd or even 3rd opinion.
I hope things turn out ok. I will say a prayer for him and your family every day.
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Posted 18 October 2006 - 09:28 AM
Pumping for almost 6 years
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Posted 18 October 2006 - 03:40 PM
I wish your family all the best during this difficult time.
Posted 18 October 2006 - 04:01 PM
Proud Mom is correct in that an EEG is done to determine brain activity. I would ask the doctor if that WAS the test that was done.
Good luck and wishes,
“I don't expect everything to be handed to me. Just set it down anywhere.”.
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currently using Medtronic MiniMed
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Posted 18 October 2006 - 04:12 PM
DX Type 1 - June 16, 2006
A1c - 14.2 6/06
A1c - 6.5 2/07
Lantus 20 u a.m. / 8 u p.m.
Novalog 1 u for 30 carbs
+ sliding scale b4 meals
Symlin 20u b4 meals
Posted 18 October 2006 - 07:21 PM
If they inject too much, their pancreas will shut off for that period and then their liver will dump glucose into the blood stream to counteract it.
The liver knows to dump glucose when insulin levels are low (because it normally follows that glucose levels should also be low.) It doesn't know about glucose levels directly, though. Also, if you've used up your store of hepatic glucose, you have to replenish it before it will work again. This is why glucagon sometimes won't work. Still, if a nondiabetic had injected too much insulin, it would show up as low blood sugar.
Best wishes to you and your family, bethkaysmom.
Correctly dx T1 (LADA) 11/2006
MM 522 w/NovoLog since 1/07
Previously on Actos, Starlix, Metformin ER, Lantus
Posted 18 October 2006 - 08:39 PM
Posted 18 October 2006 - 08:42 PM
To cross out what I’ve become
And let go of what I’ve done
Put to rest
What you thought of me
Well I cleaned this slate
With the hands
So let mercy come
And wash away
What I’ve done
I’ve faced myself
To cross out what I’ve become
And let go of what I’ve done
Linkin Park~ "What I've Done"
Posted 19 October 2006 - 07:11 AM
this is how they determine brain stem death
[url=http://www.uktransplant.org.uk/ukt/how_to_become_a_donor/questions/answers/further_info/brain_stem/the_brain_stem_more.jsp]How do they know if your brain stem has died[/url]
The tests used to determine brain stem death are simple but conclusive. They will only be carried out after doctors have established that the patient has suffered irreversible brain damage.
Before the tests are started checks are made to make sure that any factors which might affect the tests such as drugs or an extremely low body temperature have been eliminated.
The tests are done at the patient's bedside. First of all, a torch is shone into both eyes to see if the pupils react to the light. Then the cornea, which is normally ultra-sensitive, is stroked with a tissue or cotton wool. Next, painful pressure is applied to the forehead and the nose is pinched. Ice-cold water is then syringed into each ear in turn, which would normally cause eye movement. A tube is then inserted down the patient's throat to provoke a gagging or coughing response.
Finally, and most importantly, conditions are created which allow the patient to be removed from the ventilator for a short period of about ten minutes to see if they show any sign of attempting to breathe on their own. Patients who are brain stem dead will not react in any way to any of the tests.
This group of tests is carried out twice, at separate times. They are done by two senior doctors with special expertise in this area, neither of whom must be a member of the transplant team.
If the second set of tests confirms no evidence of brain stem activity the patient is declared dead.
The standards for certifying death by brain stem death are strict and are accepted medically, legally and ethically in the UK and in most other countries in the world.
diagnosed: feb 2000
using: lantus and novorapid
last Hba1c: 5.7% July 2007
previous HbA1c:5.6% April 2007
previous HbA1c: 6.2% Febuary 2007
Posted 24 October 2006 - 08:31 PM
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Posted 24 October 2006 - 08:43 PM
As for your brothers situation, I think the best thing to do would be to ask the dr's to be more specific. Tell them you are confused by what they are saying and don't be intimidated by them - they're just people! It sounds like your brother is just in a coma as a 'protective' measure... As in his body has shutdown to the outside world to fix what's going on on the inside... I'm not sure if that makes sence, but all the best, my best wishes are with you.
diagnosed april 1993, age 10
was on MDI until april 2005, when started on cozmo pump (purple).
i'm a nurse and the medical profession scares me sometimes