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Nussbrand1937

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Above what amount of urinations per day would you consider the individual having an abnormal amount? Likewise, how many liters of water-intake per day would you consider related to "unquenchable thirst"?

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when we say excessive where diabetes is concerned, we're not really talking about times per days... we're talkin every 20-30 mins with a full bladder!! (in my case, very 20mins)

Thirst... well, put it this way, in ONE HOUR i got through 3liters of juice a week before diagnosis.

When you're mouth is real "dry", it feels like you've "run out" of saliva, nasty STICKY gloop in your mouth instead.

when it gets to that point you're pretty much on the verge of DKA i think...
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Stu described it to a T. The thirst is just unquenchable. The more you drink the thirstier you get. I was peeing every 20-30 minutes before dx also. I had "the feeling" to pee constantly but would hold off as long as I could and my bladder would be stretched to the limit after 30 minutes.

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Look, I really can't stress this enough.

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Yes definitely if you think there is any possibility that you have diabetes take Deus's advise and go see a doctor. There is no way to get a diagnoses on a message board.

IF YOU ARE WORRIED YOU MIGHT HAVE DIABETES, GO AND SEE A DOCTOR.


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Look, I really can't stress this enough.

IF YOU ARE WORRIED YOU MIGHT HAVE DIABETES, GO AND SEE A DOCTOR.


Ditto

Seriously, as much as we want to help people, we aren't medical professionals. And even those who ARE, can't diagnose you over the www. Symptoms like excessive thirst and urination NEED to be checked out by a doctor!!!!

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Getting up at night to urinate several times is probably excessive.

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For me it was more a matter of total paranoia if I didn't have something to drink with me at all times. It was like being horribly addicted to liquids. If I was out and about and had a bottled water with me that was at the half-way point I got down right edgy until I had another full bottle right there.
Within two weeks I knew where every public restroom in town was...and here at home everyone was glad we had two bathrooms because I was usually in one of them. Got up 4-6 times nightly, as well.
I think EXTREME thirst better describes it.

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For me it was more a matter of total paranoia if I didn't have something to drink with me at all times. It was like being horribly addicted to liquids. If I was out and about and had a bottled water with me that was at the half-way point I got down right edgy until I had another full bottle right there.
Within two weeks I knew where every public restroom in town was...and here at home everyone was glad we had two bathrooms because I was usually in one of them. Got up 4-6 times nightly, as well.
I think EXTREME thirst better describes it.


Exactly how i felt as well, I never thought about it being Diabetes, i though i was becoming addicted to liquids over food. Dreading going to calls on the 1st floor where i work because i was so drained of energy it was HARD to walk up the stairs!

As everyone has said, you just cannot get a diagnosis off of the internet, you MUST see a doctor, if you have these symptoms we're describing... to the same extent, you're dangerously close to colapsing into a coma, you could have ketones that can kill you, we can't stress enough how serious it is to SEE A DOCTOR.
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It doesn't subside. It becomes more frequent every day, and the thirst builds and builds. The weight loss accelerates. Then we assimilate you:stupido2:

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Thirst... well, put it this way, in ONE HOUR i got through 3liters of juice a week before diagnosis.


I remember the night before i took myself to hospital I drank 3 liters of friut juice in one go, literally one after the other and then feeling sick and ready to explode. I remember feeling like there was no room for the the third one but I still wanted it. And for some reason it didn't seem as insane at the time as it does thinking about it now. I suppose i was already used to drinking near that much anyway just not all in one go. Even being in a bath I once contemplated drinking the water... liquid of any kind anywhere is all good when undiagnosed lol

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I remember the "thirst" being worse than "thirst". It was almost like an itch, or a buzz, deep down where "thirst" normally was. And as everyone has stated, no matter how much I drank, I was thirsty. I was thirsty when I was still drinking, LOL.
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Good thread.
Thanks to all for your comments.
I'm glad my thirst is not a problem & as for urinating, at least I don't get up at night to go.

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I would never leave home without a water bottle, my fear of the thirst was so much. I would sleep with a gallon of water next to my bed, and get up to urinate 3x a night. I counted how much I drank some days, and it was often 4 to 10 gallons.

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I was drinking sweet, beautiful lemonaid by the gallon! Didn't even want to share or use a glass! hehehe!
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Excessive thirst isn't even a good description. Like everyone else here, I couldn't go ANYWHERE without a glass in my hand. It was very evident to me because I was a camel before I got diabetes. I could sometimes go an entire day without a drink and I had to force liquids down. I hated water and drank milk when I was thirsty. Then came the day when I would drink three and four glasses of water in a half hour and want more. I knew it was odd and not at all a behavior that was normal for me. I would go to bed at night with two glasses of water by my bed and knew that it would not be enough, but any more would look really odd. It was an unbelievable craving. The peeing was as ridiculous. I also knew every public restroom within a 20 mile radius of my home.

Sounds like we all have basically the same story. Not really excessive thirst. I think that is a "nice" medical term. More like obsessive about water.

Call on Wednesday and get an appointment. Trying to figure out what is wrong can be frustrating and you can be completely wrong.

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My husband and I were house hunting at the time. I remember that we couldn't leave the house without a bottle of water, or an "addict like plan" to stop and get one before we did anything else. Nothing would quench my thirst. I also had to get up several times a night to per and then, of course, drink more water.

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Thanks for all your answers.
Like I said in the other topic, I already scheduled an appointment for Jan, 2nd.
I just went to eat Indian. I've eaten bread and rice - after approx. 1h my chest started itching again :(

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It doesn't subside. It becomes more frequent every day, and the thirst builds and builds. The weight loss accelerates. Then we assimilate you:stupido2:


Exactly! I felt as if everything I drank ran straight thru. I was even throwing it up,too. It was a frenzied,panicky feeling,as if I would die any moment if I didn't replenish the liquid I had lost, and the dryness and dehydration was constant ,while my eyesight slowly dwindled.

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andypoo - good call on the 'straight through' aspect... and not even necessarily in a drinking and peeing way, just that every swallow of liquid was just as unsatisfying as the one the prior. The feeling that what was currently sliding down your throat was as useless as air, so unquenchable was the thirst.

Laura Lu - that's funny about the three litres bit. I recall becoming a bit of a freak show spectacle for friends, and while over at a sleep over I took a four litre jug of skim milk and chugged the whole thing in the space of a few minutes, stoping only to catch my breath. (Won any water drinking contests at birthday parties that year ;) )

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