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Here's a pic of my last "blood flooded" infusion set!!!
Lovely isn't it? (NOT!)


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I've had this happen twice in four days!!! :(

I was first alerted to the problem with "uncomfortable pain" (and more pain than usual) in the site and sky rocketing BGLs.

Does anyone know why this happens?

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Not really, specifically, I guess you hit a blood vessel large enough to bleed out at the cannula hole. I've had it a couple of times. Seems like rotten luck to get it twice so close together. Was it a certain site area it happened?

Actually, I usually get some signs of blood up the cannula. Which is rather freaky and I am not sure what happens then - does it suck up then get pushed out again, leaving some trace (I haven't had blockage warnings at that time). Either way, I guess there is trauma at the site, and blood is seeping or forcing its way to the surface whatever way it can.
20 years T1. NPH and Novorapid.
Some essentials for my blood sugar control: dosing via i:c ratio and cf • basal testing when needed • daily 40 minutes moderate exercise (or close) • carbs somewhere below 120g currently • only eating carbs and carb/fat combos that do not cause a problem spike, with or without insulin.

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Ah, it's great to be reminded of the quirks of pumping, as this and other recent threads have. I'm just about to pop mine back on after a - 4 month? More? break. Wish me luck.
20 years T1. NPH and Novorapid.
Some essentials for my blood sugar control: dosing via i:c ratio and cf • basal testing when needed • daily 40 minutes moderate exercise (or close) • carbs somewhere below 120g currently • only eating carbs and carb/fat combos that do not cause a problem spike, with or without insulin.

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Last week had I had two in a row also. I figure that is my body's way of telling me something. I still got my insulin delivered though, it didn't affect anything and I didn't suspect it until I ripped off the infusion set to see red when I went to replace it as normal with a refill.

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AngelKitty

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Ah, it's great to be reminded of the quirks of pumping, as this and other recent threads have. I'm just about to pop mine back on after a - 4 month? More? break. Wish me luck.


Good luck! That was quite a sizeable pumping holiday you had there ;)

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Not really, specifically, I guess you hit a blood vessel large enough to bleed out at the cannula hole. I've had it a couple of times. Seems like rotten luck to get it twice so close together. Was it a certain site area it happened?


This didn't happen straight away, this was a day later?? On both occassions :confused:

Iv'e had a few occassions where I get bleeding in the cannula, bt not like this where it floods the entire prime site. :confused:

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I've had it happen when I've knocked a site, or when there's just not enough fat at a site. For me, it happened more often with the straight sets than it does with the angled sets.

Have you lost weight? Using longer sets (9mm vs. 6mm)?
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This is a very common occurance.. sorry.
This happens (along with blood up the tubing) when one hits dead on or nics a capliary inserting their set. When one sees blood like this or in the tubing, one shout pull that site and place it at a different area.. As the blood can (and will at times) clot off the cannula or even the tubing and cause the blood sugars to sky rocket (or some cases, some insulin is getting through to control bg's but they will be at a elevated number)

I have had this happen more times than I want to count.. gushers encluded
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I have only had the cannula completely fill with blood once and it happened right as I inserted the set. I immediately removed it. I have seen a little blood in the tubing & cannula at times but it's very diluted, just pink and not very red like yours. Those usually clear up after I bolus and the set seems fine so I ignore it.
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Ah, it's great to be reminded of the quirks of pumping, as this and other recent threads have. I'm just about to pop mine back on after a - 4 month? More? break. Wish me luck.


Good luck, Subby! Let us know how it goes. Are you going to stick with the same insulin? I hope it's a seamless, allergyless (I know that's not a word) transition for you.



Angelkitty,
That's a bummer! Maybe you did just nick a capillary? I've never had that specific thing happen. I've had traces of blood in the tubing though. Also, had my first "gusher" a few weeks ago...when I removed the set, blood gushed out...for a while. :eek:
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AngelKitty

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I've had it happen when I've knocked a site, or when there's just not enough fat at a site. For me, it happened more often with the straight sets than it does with the angled sets.

Have you lost weight? Using longer sets (9mm vs. 6mm)?


I hadn't thought about that - I have lost a few pounds and do use the longer sets (9mm). Looks like I better buy some 6mm sets pronto! Thanks! :)

This is a very common occurance.. sorry.
This happens (along with blood up the tubing) when one hits dead on or nics a capliary inserting their set. When one sees blood like this or in the tubing, one shout pull that site and place it at a different area.. As the blood can (and will at times) clot off the cannula or even the tubing and cause the blood sugars to sky rocket (or some cases, some insulin is getting through to control bg's but they will be at a elevated number)

I have had this happen more times than I want to count.. gushers encluded


I guess this is what must have happened to me, except delayed reaction?

I have only had the cannula completely fill with blood once and it happened right as I inserted the set. I immediately removed it. I have seen a little blood in the tubing & cannula at times but it's very diluted, just pink and not very red like yours. Those usually clear up after I bolus and the set seems fine so I ignore it.


I get that frequently as well, but those ones don't make my BGLs soar, guess I can say I have well and truly experienced a "bad set or two" :T

Angelkitty,
That's a bummer! Maybe you did just nick a capillary? I've never had that specific thing happen. I've had traces of blood in the tubing though. Also, had my first "gusher" a few weeks ago...when I removed the set, blood gushed out...for a while. :eek:


Fun and games! :cool:

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Oh no AK! Definitely get you some 6mm sets instead of the 9s!

It sure is good to see you around again! Great picture!

Subby -- tell us how the switch goes . . . .
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I hadn't thought about that - I have lost a few pounds and do use the longer sets (9mm). Looks like I better buy some 6mm sets pronto! Thanks! :)


Hope that they solve this for you! Also, don't be afraid to try the angled ones. They look scary, but I find that they're more comfortable when I'm down at my "fightin' weight" ;)
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[quote name='Jan B']It sure is good to see you around again! Great picture!
[QUOTE]

Thanks hon! Mwaah! Have missed you! :)


[quote name='RLK']Hope that they solve this for you! Also, don't be afraid to try the angled ones. They look scary, but I find that they're more comfortable when I'm down at my "fightin' weight" ;)[/QUOTE]

Thanks! Will keep that in mind - :)

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