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For the 1st time in my Life, I find myself in unfamiliar Territory.
My Wife lost here job, and we have no Health Insurance and we make too much to apply for County/State Aide.
I'm looking to buy Vials of Levimere Insulin.
A little over a year ago, I bought a Bottle from the Safeway Pharmacy (without a Prescription).
It cost me about $47.99.
Fast Forward to the Todays Date, and I can't find a Vial of it priced UNDER $123.00
When I look online, its all "Canadian Pharmacy's" and the prices are NOT that much Cheaper.
When I bought that Vial of Insulin last year, I priced it out at 3 Different (Local) Pharmacy's.
Their prices Varied quite a lot.
Respectively its was $150.00/$97.00 and finally $47.99 at the Safeway Pharmacy.
Anyone here have any tips for reasonably priced Insulin, for someone without Insurance?
I was able to save about 65% buy buying the "Generic Syringes" from Wal Mart last week, (over the BD Brand).

Any Help/Info/Links/Websites would be appreciated.

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Are you sure you bought Levemir without a prescription for $47.99? if so, you got a very good deal and the pharmacist sold it to you illegally! Levemir, as well as Lantus, Novolog, Humalog and Apidra all require prescriptions in the United States. You can buy NPH and Regular without a prescription and the price you paid seems more in line for one of those. NPH & Regular are the old school long (NPH) and fast (Regular) acting insulins, before the insulin analogs came out. It's also possible the pharmacist gave you a vial of Levemir thinking he was giving you NPH or Regular.
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No "poodlebone", not absoulutley sure.
I was on Humilin before switching to Levimere, so it was probably "Humaliun", along with the fact of the prive of it.
Im sure that nothing "Illegall" was going on, just my Memory playing tricks on me.
Its a shame the Levimere is SO MUCH MORE than The Humilin, because being a Tyupe1 Diabetic for over 40 years, my Diabetes has never been in better control, and I'm sure as **** not going back to my "old" Insulin, just to save a few bucks, and ruin my Health.
Thanks for the insight.

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The pricing of Rx medication is a complete mystery to me. If you have tried the Canadian route without success, then I don't know what to suggest. Many states have a health insurance plan for people that aren't covered by Medicare/Medicaid but can't get private insurance for one reason or another. You still have to pay for the insurance (and it's sometimes expensive) but it might be worth investigating.
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We were offered the "Cobra Coverage".
It was $1100.00 a Month (not counting RX Co-Pays)!
So before I lost my Insurance Coverage, I ordered a 90 Day supply of EVERYTHING.
When I toital it up, my "Private Pays" for 1 Months worth of Prescriptions is almost $1000.00!!!
I applied for County Aide, but we made too much on Unemployment.
Go Figuyre........


The pricing of Rx medication is a complete mystery to me. If you have tried the Canadian route without success, then I don't know what to suggest. Many states have a health insurance plan for people that aren't covered by Medicare/Medicaid but can't get private insurance for one reason or another. You still have to pay for the insurance (and it's sometimes expensive) but it might be worth investigating.



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I feel for you , our premiums were raised this year to $1200 per month and then we still had the deductible. To get the monthly premium down we dropped 2 of our older kids off the policy and raised the deductible to a number we will never meet. We do buy our expensive meds in Canada at Northwest Pharmacy in British Columbia. I am not on insulin yet but checked the prices and they are significantly cheaper. I think the Levemir was something like $164 for 5 pens and a vial is about $200. I will double check that for you. You used to be able to get it without an rx but I think they have changed that.
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Thanks Jwags.
I dont use thge Pens.
I use the "Vials".
1 Vial lasts me about 8-10 Days.
I've seen it going anywhere from $123.95-$150.00 a Vial.
Thats $350.00 a Month JUST IN INSULIN!
RIDICULAS.
Thanks for checking.



I feel for you , our premiums were raised this year to $1200 per month and then we still had the deductible. To get the monthly premium down we dropped 2 of our older kids off the policy and raised the deductible to a number we will never meet. We do buy our expensive meds in Canada at Northwest Pharmacy in British Columbia. I am not on insulin yet but checked the prices and they are significantly cheaper. I think the Levemir was something like $164 for 5 pens and a vial is about $200. I will double check that for you. You used to be able to get it without an rx but I think they have changed that.



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I am sorry for your situation. Have you called up the Dr & asked if they have any samples they can give you for free? Or the manufacturer of the insulin, may have some kind of low co pay plan. Call & ask.
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An Update for you all.
I aquired a "Local Doctor", who gave me a Free Bottle (Sample) of the Levimere Insulin.
I also went to the "Novo Nordisk" web site, and they have a "Patient Assistance Program", that it looks like I qualify for.
My Doctor writes out a Prescription for a 90 Day Supply (Refillable 3 times) and they send it directly to the Doctor,
and I pick it up from him.
Just when I thought all hope was lost......... ;+)

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Update......
Novo Nordisk, accepted my application and last week I received 9 Vials of Levimer Insulin.
The OTC cost on 1 Vial. is anywhere from $123.00-$155.00 depending on were it is purchased.
In fact, going through "Needymeds.org"< I was able to siogn-up for Patient assistance programs, on all but 1 of my Medications!
I'm saving about $900.00 a Month in Medication Costs.
Funny thing was, that the Pharmacy I was paying "Over The Counter Prices" on my Prescriptions, was happy to take my Money, but when it got down to Brass Tax, and my Funds dried up, they were no help whatsoever.
It wasnt until I contacted Novo Nordisc, that I found out about the "Patient Assistance Programsd".
I highly recomend them to anyone in the same boat!
Roger

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Very pleased that things worked out for you. I know of someone, also w/o insurance at the moment, who may be able to use the website you've mentioned. Thank you for the information.

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for insulin check with Wal-Mart.
I'm not kidding.
They sell their brand for $25.00 per vial.

They may have a program that would further reduce that.

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Thanks Art for the suggestion, but I now get my Insulin FREE,
directly from the Manufacter.

Roger


for insulin check with Wal-Mart.
I'm not kidding.
They sell their brand for $25.00 per vial.

They may have a program that would further reduce that.

Art



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GrammaBear
It is a FANTASTIC Program!
I am getting all but 1 of my Meds through the Patient Assistance Programs.
The only "Hitch" is you have to meet the "Federal Poverty Level",(they provide a Chart),
which we did. All I do is have my Local Doctor write a Prescription for up to a year, and they send the Meds to his Office, every 90 days.
They call me and I pick them up from his office.
I couldnt BELIEVE the Over The Counter prices!
On JUST the Insulin (and 1 other Medication) I would have had to pay $837.00 a Month.
Thats NOT COUNTING the other 4 Meds I take.
Ironic thing was, that when I DID have Insurance, I used to complain about a $50.00 Co-Pay on 12 Bottles of my Insulin.
Never again...... ;+)

Roger

Very pleased that things worked out for you. I know of someone, also w/o insurance at the moment, who may be able to use the website you've mentioned. Thank you for the information.



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Thanks for the update, Roger. Kudos to Novo Nordisk for doing the right thing. I may just have to switch from Humlog to Novolog for that.
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Im not a Doctor, but after 5 years of pressure by my Doctor,
I swithced from Humilin N & R, over to Levimere, and have NEVER looked back.
The Levimere does NOT have a Rapid Onset, and my A1c (although not were I'd like it),
is MUCH Better than it was on Humilin.
I was always over compensating for Low Blood sugars on the Humilin.
Low BS with my Levimere are RARE at best and dont come on within 1 minute or so.
Its a great alternative, that has worked for ME.

Roger


Thanks for the update, Roger. Kudos to Novo Nordisk for doing the right thing. I may just have to switch from Humlog to Novolog for that.



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wwtor, I was interested in your comment about going back to your old insulin. I am new at this so let me ask a basic question, "Is there any advantage of using one type of insulin as compared to others?" My wife is taking 47 units per day of Lantus and it is difficult to obtain stable resultes? Her fasting glucose ranges from 150 to 212.

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wwtor, I was interested in your comment about going back to your old insulin. I am new at this so let me ask a basic question, "Is there any advantage of using one type of insulin as compared to others?" My wife is taking 47 units per day of Lantus and it is difficult to obtain stable resultes? Her fasting glucose ranges from 150 to 212.


I'm not wwtor, but to get stable BGs, there are other factors involved: eating - does she count her carbs or not? And there is also the other insulin, the bolus insulin involved. The basal insulin is just one part of the equation.

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Unclebob,
Let me explain..I've been Type 1 for over 40 years.
My 1st experience with Diabetes was listening to a "Specialist" tell me how much
What Food, I Should/Shouldnt eat, Exchanges, Counting ect.
I was 13 years old at the time.
Am I a Poster Boy for Diabetes...certainly not.
But I will be Honest in my Thoughts/Reply's.
When I started this journey, my A1C's were around 12.
Here we are 40 years later and the best I've been able to do is 8.3.
My problem with my Diabetes, is when I had a low BS,
I would OVERCOMPENSATE by eating EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!
With the Levimer Insulin, there is not the Rapid "Onset" of the Humilin Insulin I was using before.
Therefore, when I DID experience a low BS, I wouldnt feel as "Panicked" because there was not such a RAPID DROP.
Now I can "Nibble" to bring my BS back up, and I've done away with a lot of the Spikes,
I used to get with over compensating when I had a low BS.
Many people will look at me and think that I'm crazy when I say that I had a "Good BS Day,
because my Morning Sugars were 110 and my Evening Sugars were 195.
That is were MY Comfort factor rests.
The Bain of my Existance is wondering where my BS Level is at, at any paticular time.
With Levimere Insulin, I can wake up with a 100 BS, and inject my Daily Dose, and Nibble a little something for Breakfast.
With the Humilin Insulin, it was Inject and then YOU GOTTA EAT SOMETHING within a half hour or so.
The Levimere works great for me, because I'm not a big Breakfast eater.
Lunch/Dinner are MY big Meals.
I was though (with simple walking of 2 Miles a day), able to bring my weight down by 22 Pounds,
in 3 Months, with just the walking alone.
No changes in Diet whatsoever.
My BS came down and I required about 30%-45% LESS insulin, to obtain those Lower Blood Sugars, when I was walking.
I DISPISE Weighing/Measuring/Guessing what I eat everyday.
The way I look at it, is that my BMI is perfect, and Id like to loose about 10 more pounds.
I quit Smoking 26 years ago, and quit Drinking 22 years ago.
My only Vice is "Diet Cherry Pepsi".
Im happy and Life is good.

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Did you find some levemir.I am on a perscripstion plan and have some extra. Let me know. Mike





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