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Alright so, here's the deal.

I'm looking to start supplements that are more focused towards my needs of getting my blood sugar stabilized. I've heard that most diabetics have a D3 deficiency, so I'm looking at that. Found one called "extreme D3", with is 50,000 (you read that right) IU, which is 25-50x more than a standard D3 vitamin.

I also know that cinnamon is supposed to help, but only the "cinnamon cassia". Then, I go online and read how it's not really effective at all, so not sure what to believe there.

I already take potassium gluconate and magnesium, cranberry for my kidneys (VERY high concentrate), a fish oil for my cholesterol, and a ginko biloba for general mental health, as well as a standard multivitamin.

Any suggestions out there for what might truly be beneficial? I've heard GABA and had that discussion as well, FYI. There's just a lot of mumbo jumbo out there as far as what really help and what doesn't do jack.
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SueL4 just started a similar thread a few days ago. http://www.diabetesf...nts-do-you.html

I listed all the stuff I take on that thread, some of which you've mentioned you are interested in. I'm not really sure if they do anything or not. I'm pretty confident in the fish oil. Anyway, maybe you and Sue (and others) can get together on one thread and discuss. I like to hear what others are doing then figure out on my own if it's something I think I should take. Some day I'll have to drop one of the so-called BG stabilizing supplements one at a time and see if I notice any difference. The R-ALA is so pricey!

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Good morning,
I started a similar thread on supplements about a week ago and got a few responses.
I took the 50,000 prescription dose of Vit.D a few years ago. It's meant to be a temporary treatment lasting a few months from what I've learned. I currently alternate between the 1,000 and 5,000 unit D3. I also take fish oil, magnesium and CoQ10. I just ordered Mannose D with cranberry extract because I heard about it here and did some research and it seemed like a good supplement. I've also looked into cinnamon supplements and decided against them. Hope this helps.
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I'm looking to start supplements that are more focused towards my needs of getting my blood sugar stabilized. I've heard that most diabetics have a D3 deficiency, so I'm looking at that..

Before you start on supplements for a deficiency, it might be a good idea to test to find out if you HAVE deficiency.
Now -- you might be "within normal range" and still feel like you should be HIGHER in the range..... but if you don't know what level you're at, why would you supplement?
I'm actually due for an A1C, and I have a call in to my dr to see if he can add on a couple tests for D and B levels. (if he whines about it being medically unnecessary, I'll just get it done at a drop-in clinic, but I'd rather avoid an additional blood draw ..)

I'm a big fan of supplements for the RIGHT things -- but not a big fan of creating expensive pee.... (a lot of the stuff in a "standard multivitamin" are just going to go in and straight out.... )

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I'm a big fan of supplements for the RIGHT things -- but not a big fan of creating expensive pee.... (a lot of the stuff in a "standard multivitamin" are just going to go in and straight out.... )


Exactly. I take a morning Centrum Silver multivitamin/multimineral supplement...and I'd be willing to bet I've got the healthiest toilet in the neighborhood. :)

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Well... guess what. I had been thinking about D3 for a long time now, and this thread got me to run a D3 test.
"Desired range" is 30-100.
My chiropractor said I really SHOULD get tested, and was insistent that it REALLY needs to be 70
I figured it'd be in the "normal" range, but probably below 70.
Um... WTF?!? It's 18. Guess I'll be supplementing ASAP!!!!

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5.8 on 04-28-12
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5.7 on 04-26-13
5.7 on 11-05-13

6.0 on 05-20-14

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Hi Peggy,

I also tested in the teens, as did most people I know. My doctor started me off with the 50,000 unit prescription dose which got me into the 60s. Now I take 5,000 units daily.
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I take centrum silver for women, twice a day. Was tested and showed that I was low on D3, so I take that. Because of a previous stroke and homosystein issues, I also take folic acid. My doctor knows and approves, although the only thing he told me to take was the D3, which I understand diabetics tend to be low on.

I think that some supplements can increase glucose, glucosamine is one that is suspect, so I stopped that for my knee arthritis. It would be nice is there was regulation of supplements because who knows how much of the ingredient is really in that stuff.

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I am also taking 50,000 units Vit D as my D levels were said to be seriously low. I had been taking 1,000 units for a year but it seems that wasnt enough.
Read recently theres a link between VitD deficiency & MS so I hope the high dosage protects me from it.

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You really need to talk to a doctor that is an expert on calcium before talking more D-3.
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Items that I think would be geared towards a T1 would be amino acids, GABA, Theanine, Glutamine, Arginine, Glycine. If your BG levels seem to fluctuate with stress beyond whats would be considered normal, rise and a quick fall, then Ashweghanda, Holy Basal, Seriphos to reduce cortisol. It all depends on what your trying to reduce or enhance.

D can be tested for, as well as most B's. Next would be testosterone, DHEA, Cortisol, all of which will effect BG levels.
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