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06-28-2006, 11:34 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Southern USA
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| | | Do you make sure you eat "enough"? Hello again,
I've spent a week trying to eat what the dietician said I should eat. She said NO LESS than 45 carbs per meal. Well, I can't take it any longer! I'm tired of stuffing all of this food in, and I've reached the point where I'm not even hungry when it's time to eat again. My bs's aren't even worth discussing!
So, this morning I decided that enough is enough. I'm going back to eating the way I ate before....which isn't really too small...it's just not as many "carbs" as she thought I should consume. She actually told me that I eat quite healthy.
It will probably take a few days to get my sugar back under control, but after eating a normal breakfast this morning I feel better already. No longer a bloated cow.
I faxed a letter to my endo telling him what I'm doing and why. I guess I'll find out soon enough how he likes this. Just wondered if anyone else lives like that....or do you just eat what you want, in a sensible way.
Holly | 
06-28-2006, 12:17 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Buffalo, NY
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| | | I wish my doc would tell ME to eat more carbs. I miss them!!
But I agree. If you blood sugars aren't good anyway, I don't think backing off all the carbs will hurt. It will probably help. If you do start getting low a lot, you may need to readd those carbs or talk about adjusting the meds.
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06-28-2006, 01:38 PM
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I am a: Type 1.5 | | Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Hogwarts, Hobbiton, the Galactic Milieu &Ks when I have to be here
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| | | Are you MDI?
The advantage of being MDI is that you decide what/where/when/how much to eat.
Although my dietician originally told me to average 75 carbs per meal, I don't hit that very often.
breakfast: PB & J sandwich and coffee = 45
lunch, normally = 43 (today was only 30)
supper, well, now that is often a diffferent kettle of fish entirely: could be 30-45, could be 200
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06-28-2006, 03:31 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Southern USA
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Originally Posted by rzrbks Are you MDI? |
What is MDI?? | 
06-28-2006, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by grace girl What is MDI?? | Multiple Daily Injections.
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06-28-2006, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by valc3 Multiple Daily Injections. | Yes, I am. Thanks...I learned something new!
And I thought that getting on this program meant just that....that I would have more freedom. After trying to eat like that for a week I felt like I was suffocating. I want the freedom! There are enough restrictions on me with this diabetes already! | 
06-28-2006, 04:20 PM
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| | | When I was first dx'd I tried to follow exactly what the CDE told me to eat. I couldn't eat that much either. I finally started eating what and how much worked for me(within reason) I made sure it was a balanced diet and kept the carbs low. I felt much better and had better control.
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06-28-2006, 07:50 PM
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| | Holly,
I don't eat 45g carbs all day. If you like, check my numbers: My Numbers & Charts
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06-28-2006, 08:14 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Southern USA
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| | | Thanks to you all. I knew I did the right thing, but it's good to know you're not the only one. I've felt so much better today...though after being so high for the past few days anything under 150 today has been like a low. I know that will settle down in the next day or two, so I'm just thankful to feel like I'm back in control of things, instead of things controling me. | 
06-28-2006, 08:36 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH
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| | | Quick question...You say you are on MDI, so do you adjust the insulin by what you eat? Or do you take the same exact amount every day for dinner/lunch/etc?
The reason I ask is because there is no reason to eat a set amount of carbs unless your doctor is telling you to take 10 units at dinner every day. Then what you are doing is eating to cover the insulin, where as you should be injecting to cover the food.
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06-29-2006, 06:56 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rhode Island
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| | | When I was first dx'd and met with the CDE, she wanted me to eat 245 grams of carbs a day. I did this for about a week. My BS was running sky high. I went searching for a diabetes support/message board and learned from its members that I needed to cut way back on my carb intake. I followed their advice and saw improvements immediately.
Before I started on the pump 6 months ago, I ate less than 50-60 grams of carbs per day. I've increased that a bit to under 75.......depending on the foods I eat and the weather. I tend to eat lighter during the summer months when it's hot & humid.
Karen | 
06-29-2006, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JediSkipdogg Quick question...You say you are on MDI, so do you adjust the insulin by what you eat? Or do you take the same exact amount every day for dinner/lunch/etc?
The reason I ask is because there is no reason to eat a set amount of carbs unless your doctor is telling you to take 10 units at dinner every day. Then what you are doing is eating to cover the insulin, where as you should be injecting to cover the food. | They haven't given me a ratio...I'm still shooting based on blood sugar (sliding scale.) I recorded the carb intake and insulin for the week that I ate like she wanted, and hopefully they can figure out a ratio from that.
She called my endo Monday, I faxed them Wednesday, it's Thursday, and neither one of us have heard from them, so I'm just doing what I do, and still working on getting my bs back down to where it was before I started eating all of that food. | 
06-29-2006, 01:58 PM
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| | | Hmmmmm...If you want to experiment, wait four hours after a meal where you bolused (in other words, you bolused and ate four hours ago). Then, find a food with a known quantity of carbs, cereal or bread, etc. Measure out an exact amount so you know what you are about to eat. This will be your test food. Oh! Test your blood sugars before you begin, you should be "normal", ie 90-130 or so.
Use a ratio of 1 unit of insulin to 10 grams of carbs. If you measured out 20 grams of carb in the test food, take 2 units of fast acting insulin...eat.
Take your blood sugars at one and two hours post-meal. The two hour reading should be within 20 points of your blood sugar reading before you started this test. Then test at three and four hours. Let us know the results.
A couple things: Don't do this if you are not comfortable doing it, we are not doctors here, after all. But this is how we all figured out our ratios. Second, if you are HIGH at two hours, you should take a correction bolus. If you are low, EAT. Take every precaution while experimenting.
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07-06-2006, 03:09 PM
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I am a: Type 1.5 | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: UK
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Originally Posted by kgm0612 When I was first dx'd and met with the CDE, she wanted me to eat 245 grams of carbs a day. I did this for about a week. My BS was running sky high. I went searching for a diabetes support/message board and learned from its members that I needed to cut way back on my carb intake. I followed their advice and saw improvements immediately.
Before I started on the pump 6 months ago, I ate less than 50-60 grams of carbs per day. I've increased that a bit to under 75.......depending on the foods I eat and the weather. I tend to eat lighter during the summer months when it's hot & humid.
Karen | How do you maintain your weight on only 75g of carbs per day? - I eat around 180g per day and am struggling to maintain my weight.
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07-07-2006, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Jazz How do you maintain your weight on only 75g of carbs per day? - I eat around 180g per day and am struggling to maintain my weight. | Well, she's female. <sigh>
My weight will maintain on 30 grams a day. Or 1200 calories. Low carb, no carb, you name it. The female body as it ages becomes like an air plant.
I recently read a book about a "starvation experiment" during WWII where they reduced young men to skeletal psychopaths by feeding them a starvation diet of 1600 calories a day.
I lived on considerably less than 1600 calories for 9 months in order to drop 20 lbs. And I was losing fractions of a pound a week at best.
Men don't know how good they've got it! <g>
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