sugar numbers going nuts here :) - Page 2

ladytaz · #16 (**permalink**) 08-20-2007, 09:19 AM

I don't think it was anything in the salad either. The amount of salad dressing, tho, yes it usually has carbs in it (well, if like me, you use "regular"), unless you use a whole bottle of dressing for a salad, you're not gonna get much, if any, rise!

I also think it was a liver dump for one reason or another. Reason? Who knows! Yea, the planets all aligned just right! That's gotta be it!! LOL I use that excuse too! *giggles* Last time I had some funky readings Jupiter was out and in view ... I think it was just too close to the moon, and my BG rebelled and had a fit about it! *giggles* Or as you said Roni, the heat! It's been just rediculous here in the south, hasn't it!! GAH! I almost feel like I'm back in Paso Robles or Coalinga, California again! eW!

mzroni · #17 (**permalink**) 08-20-2007, 06:17 PM

Hey i am from CA also..i was born and raised in southern cal..lived in Pismo Beach and Grover City for a few then made it to TN,.

ladytaz · #18 (**permalink**) 08-20-2007, 06:36 PM

Cool!! I was born and lived for 15 years in L.A., Sun Valley to be exact. Then we moved up to Paso. My great aunt used to live in Grover City!! Been to Pismo Beach (or Pisbo Beach as my baby sis used to call it! LOL) and Avila Beach too, a few times myself ... back in my younger years ... later, after I got married and had kids we just usually went to Cayucos and sometimes San Simeon. The beach and Yosemite are the ONLY things I miss about Cali!

Alice · #19 (**permalink**) 08-20-2007, 06:50 PM

Your salad does indeed sound low in carbs...very puzzling. I know many salads have hidden carbs in the form of dressing, croutons, beans, etc.

I occasionally pick up a McDonald's Asian Grilled Chicken Salad for dinner...with the dressing it comes to almost 45 carbs, I believe. There is a glaze on the chicken that's easy to forget. Ironically, a Big Mac is about 45 carbs also, I believe (going off the top of my head here) So, there you go...hamburger or salad...both are equal carbs, give or take.

Protein doesn't raise my blood sugar the way I've heard on this forum, but everyone is different. If anything, it slows down my carb absorption rate and I have to watch for lows after taking Humalog.

My endo seemed surprised when I brought the protein/increase subject up...but, I'm interested in other's experiences...

Kimber · #20 (**permalink**) 08-23-2007, 10:06 AM

mzroni,
Your letter could have been written by me!! I am on the same meds, and having the same problems (it sounds like.) My fasting numbers are usually fine but when I eat my numbers do anything they want! My endo and my PC say don't worry because they eventually come back down. They don't want to increase my lantus because that would lower my fasting rates. I have been trying to get fast acting insulin all summer to go with meals and I go to a new CDE tomorrow to try again. Perhaps you need to try for that too (if this is not a one time occurance)? Sometimes I eat a perfectly reasonable meal (like you did) and my numbers go wayyyy up and I say HMMMM look at that. Sometimes I eat another perfectly reasonable meal and my numbers go down (106 to 80 two days ago). Who knows??? So good luck to you. If you get it figured out please let us know. I will continue in my search for someone who will say more than - "Don't worry about it."
kimber

mzroni · #21 (**permalink**) 08-23-2007, 10:52 AM

Hi

I know what thats like kimber..I try to eat everything right and sometimes it just does not work for me..I go back to the dr on the 6th a diabetic clinic i have found thru Vanderbilt medical center..there doing more for me then another dr..I am actually seeing one that does type 1.5 so maybe i will get somewhere

hopefully anyways..but last time i went last month she was talking about adding insulin to my meals..

amyjo29 · #22 (**permalink**) 08-25-2007, 06:35 AM

Hello All,

I just wondered on to the t1.5 so see about things. I'm a t2 since april but had gestational since november. I'm loosing weight w/o even trying and eating well. I may not be getting enough carbs and calories in a day. On the forum about t2 I asked around and it was suggested I may be t1 instead. After reading this thread I have another question.... How can foods you eat earlier in the day effect you later in the day. If you test before a meal and 2hrs after then shouldn't your food have been processed already? This happened to me once as well. I ate a salad and started at 78 and then 2hrs later it was 145. Lots of veggies and low carb dressing. Bugged the heck out of me. That's what I hate about this disease... no one can tell you for sure what's going on. Didn't mean to interrupt the thread just found this conversation interesting.

owlyn · #23 (**permalink**) 08-25-2007, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by amyjo29

Hello All,

I just wondered on to the t1.5 so see about things. I'm a t2 since april but had gestational since november. I'm loosing weight w/o even trying and eating well. I may not be getting enough carbs and calories in a day. On the forum about t2 I asked around and it was suggested I may be t1 instead. After reading this thread I have another question.... How can foods you eat earlier in the day effect you later in the day. If you test before a meal and 2hrs after then shouldn't your food have been processed already? This happened to me once as well. I ate a salad and started at 78 and then 2hrs later it was 145. Lots of veggies and low carb dressing. Bugged the heck out of me. That's what I hate about this disease... no one can tell you for sure what's going on. Didn't mean to interrupt the thread just found this conversation interesting.

Yeah, that's the phase of the moon/price of tea in China effect. Sometimes things just happen. Or, another way to look at it- it's a body, not a machine.

I eat the exact same thing every day (M-F) for breakfast and lunch, and have a desk job. Should be extremely predictable, right? Well, it's only mostly predictable. 60% roughly. 3 out of 5 days, same results. Other 2 days- price of tea in China must have changed. Some thigs you can't figure out, and just have to accept.

Alice · #24 (**permalink**) 08-25-2007, 09:44 AM

Here's my old "Key in the Door" theory:

I think one delayed factor is the "stuff" that surrounds the cells long after food has left our digestive system. We think that in an hour or two, the food is gone. But, I feel there is residual carb junk left over for a while.

The whole problem of diabetes isn't the sugar going into our bodies, it's the fact the key can't turn to unlock the doors that process the sugar. So, you have some "unlocked doors" sitting around in your body, long after the food has been processed.

Exercise doesn't burn this excess off, it needs to turn the glucose into energy first. If the key won't open the door, so to speak, the glucose can't turn into energy.

This is why medication is normally needed...even if you're eating healthy.

56sushi · #25 (**permalink**) 09-17-2007, 05:58 AM

I only recently discovered that my son, who is 24 and diagnosed in Jan. 07 is actually considered a 1.5. He has had multiple complications even though he does Lantus and Humalog religiously and counts carbs like a demon. Just observationally from reading this forum it appears 1.5s really struggle with glucose control.
He has trouble with gastroparesis even though he is VERY careful about fiber. He has finally figured out that his numbers can be influenced by the timing of his bowel movements.

(sorry, I don't mean to gross everyone out here)
So for him, if he hasn't had a bowel movement that day, he will get highs. If he has really cleaned out, he can get lows.
Don't know if that might explain it for you. He tries to adjust both types of Lantus accordingly and has had some success.