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01-10-2007, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonJayhawk  Novo Nordisk is the "market segment leader" in selling insulin worldwide. I think they overtook Lilly's insulin sales two years ago. (Translation: they have more salespeople and more ways of getting doctors to convert their patients). | Could also help that Novo has a long acting insulin on the market while Lilly's closest thing is NPH and premixes. |
01-10-2007, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Funnygrl Could also help that Novo has a long acting insulin on the market while Lilly's closest thing is NPH and premixes. | Yes. I think Lilly made a huge mistake when they decided to quit making Ultralente (& for that matter, Lente). Ultralente had no peak (it worked steadily) and lasted a little over 24 hours or so.....they discontinued it, and kept NPH. 
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01-10-2007, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Funnygrl Could also help that Novo has a long acting insulin on the market while Lilly's closest thing is NPH and premixes. |  I don't understand how that would help, considering that Novo Nordisk's long-acting insulin (Levemir) came to market around February 2006, a little over a year and a half after they gained the biggest market "segment" share, and Levemir still hasn't been approved in other countries yet.
I think they gained their share through more intense marketing campaigns and the FDA approval for use in pumps (Humalog wasn't "officially" approved for pumps, officially, until just about a year ago). |
01-10-2007, 09:16 PM
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| | I think Lantus is one of the best insulins ever. If I exercise really hard I can eat and go with out novolog for meals/snacks. It truely has given me freedom and hypos are of no concern to me with it, because if I do go hypo from it, it is so slight it is super easy to correct.
My friends from camp call Lantus the "poor mans pump". I call it the "I dont want to be teathered insulin"  . |
01-10-2007, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by condensr Can't wait to see how this works for you.. you gave a great report on the Dexcom! | Thanks... It was an experience!
I'll be trying the Apidra probably this weekend.
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01-11-2007, 09:48 AM
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| | | im am currently on novolog and lantus and both have worked great for me. |
01-11-2007, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by JasonJayhawk I don't understand how that would help, considering that Novo Nordisk's long-acting insulin (Levemir) came to market around February 2006, a little over a year and a half after they gained the biggest market "segment" share, and Levemir still hasn't been approved in other countries yet.
I think they gained their share through more intense marketing campaigns and the FDA approval for use in pumps (Humalog wasn't "officially" approved for pumps, officially, until just about a year ago). | You said worldwide. Levemir has been around longer in many countries.
A lot of people prefer novopens too to what Lilly has to offer (though I am sure that will change with the release of the memoir). And I certainly agree with you on the pump approval thing. |
01-11-2007, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyborg With regards to fast acting insulins, I prefer Novolog over Humalog. I just got a sample of Apidra last week and will be trying it out shortly. The faster an insulin works, the more I like it... |
Let us know how it goes Cyborg. For me Apidra is the fastest followed by Novolog, then Humalog.
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01-11-2007, 11:39 AM
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| | | Since I just started on my pump, the endo told to wait a month and then he would give me samples of Novolog and Apidra to try in the pump (currently using Humalog). Only reason to try others is to find the one that works the best and, since I have high resistance, the one that works with the lowest dose. It will be interesting to compare them.
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01-18-2007, 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by JasonJayhawk Novo Nordisk is the "market segment leader" in selling insulin worldwide. I think they overtook Lilly's insulin sales two years ago. (Translation: they have more salespeople and more ways of getting doctors to convert their patients).
Brand doesn't matter as much as using what works for you. If you aren't happy with your current results, changing to something else will give you a chance to experiment with a new product.
I always find it entertaining when someone says, "I switched to brand X insulin for three days and it didn't keep my glucose levels down, so I switched back." Different brands of insulin have different strengths. If you have to take 10 units of brand X and switch to brand Y and end up needing to take 16 units to get the same result, people think brand "Y" sucks... but other people might say brand "Y" gives them more control because of the drug profile, or the ability to better fine-tune their dose.
It's up to you to decide what is "better." If you don't know and you want to find out, see about getting samples to try. Remember, it takes at least a week to decide. Converting between X units to Y units is not a 1-to-1 relationship! |
I really like your reply, thank you.
Since diagnoses I have first started with animal insulin and moved up to using Lente (green) and this yellow one ( i forgot) and from that i used humalog and now Novo Rapid and Novolin NPH. Embaressing to say, I dont know much about the different types of insulins out there...All i know is that the ones i use now are giving me major headaches almost everyday. Not good at all!! 
I never knew that i can get samples. Thats a great idea! I have my Endo appointment on Monday i will ask about it.
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01-18-2007, 10:03 AM
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| | | Whimper,
I'm not sure what kind of samples are available in your country.
This might not apply to you, but if you've just recently been diagnosed, consider that your headaches might be a side effect from getting your glucose under control again. I had major head-splitting headaches the first two weeks that I was on insulin. I could have easily blamed the insulin, but I knew it was from adjusting from a constant glucose of ~400+ mg/dl down to a "more-normal" glucose level. If you're finally reaching normal levels, consider it more as a "detoxification" from all those glucose highs! |
01-22-2007, 11:13 PM
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ummmmm.... i have used novolog the whole time i have been diagnosed, except for about a month and a half when my insurance "no longer covered novo pens" then i switched to the pump, they cover vials of course.
i noticed that novolog was more stable in the heat, ect. humolog did'nt leave my site red and itchie like novo SOMETIMES does. i still prefere novo, and use it today.
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01-25-2007, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JasonJayhawk Whimper,
I'm not sure what kind of samples are available in your country.
This might not apply to you, but if you've just recently been diagnosed, consider that your headaches might be a side effect from getting your glucose under control again. I had major head-splitting headaches the first two weeks that I was on insulin. I could have easily blamed the insulin, but I knew it was from adjusting from a constant glucose of ~400+ mg/dl down to a "more-normal" glucose level. If you're finally reaching normal levels, consider it more as a "detoxification" from all those glucose highs! | Thank you so much for your reply!
I actually got samples from the endo a couple of days ago. I still have not used it but am excited to try it and see what happens Yay!
Whenever i get headaches i always check my BG to see where i am at and usually i am at a good range (5.5-6.5). My endo thinks that it is the insulin as well.
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01-25-2007, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Klososky ummmmm.... i have used novolog the whole time i have been diagnosed, except for about a month and a half when my insurance "no longer covered novo pens" then i switched to the pump, they cover vials of course.
i noticed that novolog was more stable in the heat, ect. humolog did'nt leave my site red and itchie like novo SOMETIMES does. i still prefere novo, and use it today. | So you never have used long acting insulin? |
01-25-2007, 08:54 PM
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| | | I am using Lantus and Humalog...just started on Dec 29th
So far I like it better than Regular & NPH that I was using before. I like the freedom to eat - when I want to - instead of when my insulin tells me to.
The only drawback is all of the needles I am going through now!!! I end up taking 5 shots a day. When I was on Reg & NPH I took 2
But... my A1C is back where they were 3 years ago (5.6) when the roller coaster started (7.1). And I am pretty sure I can get it even better than 5.6
It is a good mix for me. |
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