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03-09-2007, 11:20 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New York
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| | | high sugars bf breakfast i was wandering if anyone else has this problem. most days before i eat breakfast my sugar levels are normal 70-100. but if i don't eat my sugar sky rockets to 250-300 it doesn't make sense I've checked it hourly and it is never the same time that it starts to go up either. it is different time each day | 
03-09-2007, 12:15 PM
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| | | Could be the DP. For some people it starts after they wake up so if you are getting up at different times everyday then you are going to see a peak at different times.
Are you type 1 or 2? What medications are you taking? If you are on a pump it could be that your basal rates need adjusting. | 
03-09-2007, 12:35 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Boston
Posts: 254
| | | You should eat soon after waking. Food will stop you liver from dumping the glucose (dawn phenominom). Don't miss meals. that's a big no no w/ the big D.
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03-09-2007, 12:38 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tenessee
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| | | Yea, I am interested if your type 1 or 2 on insulin or what......
If it happens different times a day, hmmmm.....I dunno maybe your were low in the middle of the night, you wake up you catch the rise when the numbers are still good and then boom more glucose dump, could be too, do you check at 3 am try doing that and see where your numbers are if they are lower or you are hypo, that could be the problem......
If not, then you are most likely just have a DP, or I can't answer the rest cause I don't know what med's and your situation is....
Cheryl
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03-09-2007, 12:38 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 6,143
| | | When I was first diagnosed, I would check my fasting upon waking and, if it was higher than I wanted, would wait to eat, assuming it would just keep coming down if I added no food....WRONG...it went UP! I've learned that b/fast is the most important meal for me. I try to eat a low carb b/fast, usu. scrambled eggs/egg beaters or a high-protein cereal bar.
Also, i've noticed if I eat dinner later the night before, my a.m. levels are higher.
If you are having the dawn phenomenon, you might want to try having a piece of cheese or a few nuts just before you go to bed, and this may keep your levels stable throughout the night.
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Byetta 5 mcg
HCTZ 12.5 mg every other day for BP
Enalapril 20 mg 1 daily (ace-inhibitor)
Lower carb dieter (approx. 75 total carbs/day, more on weekends), taking chromium, multivitamin and fish oil tablets Initial A1C 8/06: 9.6
11/06: 6.2.
03/07: 5.3
06/07: 5.4
10/07: 5.3
05/08: 6.2 (right after dealing with shingles and bronchitis) | 
03-09-2007, 03:07 PM
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| | | I quit eating breakfast 7 months ago. My blood sugar stays level or declines slightly from awaking until lunch time (noon).
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03-09-2007, 05:44 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New York
Posts: 17
| | | i think your misunderstanding me i know my sugar is not going low. it's not an all the time thing. sometimes my levels don't go up when i don't eat other times it does. i wonder if i take more lantus or split it into 2 shots instead of one if that might solve it.
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03-09-2007, 06:02 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 8,223
| | | When do you currently take your lantus? If you take it in the morning it may be running out on occasion. You could split the dose and see if that helps. If that doesn't help then we need to work on stopping your liver from dumping glucose in the morning.
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03-09-2007, 09:41 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fort Worth, Texas
Posts: 13
| | | Retts1 (newbie) why cant I just get a new pancrease
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03-10-2007, 12:30 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK, Hampshire
Posts: 594
| | | I understand that success rates of pancreas transplants are low. And I read on this forum, that the pancreas has a very short shelf life, making transplants difficult.
Back to the forum question...
I get the same problem as oneluckyplay - if I don't eat AND inject as soon as I get up my BG's skyrocket. My carb ratio's are higher for breakfast than they are for my other meals - it's one of the reasons I always eat the same breakfast each morning (apart from being a creature of habit) - so I get some predictability.
I can't lie in either - I've tried doing this, and even if I give myself my morning part of the basal, I still go high - I do still lie in, and have brekky in bed, but I have to make it a rare treat.
And then there are the days when I go to have my HBa1c done, they also like a fasting cholesterol - this one is a real swine - just met with the nurse and she goes oh your BG was 13.9mmol on the last fasting blood test, and I go - REALLY! I'm surprised it was that good! - it was normal that morning when I got up, AND I'd given myself a 3 unit correction to try and keep it down.
unfortunately the answer is to inject and eat as soon as I get up, and then get busy - don't get a problem then. | 
03-11-2007, 05:51 AM
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I am a: Type 1.5 | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 7,833
| | | According to Bernstein, DP isn't cause by the liver dumping glucose but rather by the liver destroying insulin.
Eating in the morning does not stop my DP. Drinking alcohol at night can interfere with the liver's action and reduce or prohibit DP, but that's not a viable solution, IMO.
The only way I've been able to control my DP is with my pump.
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