[pizzaman3]

i fiqured somthing out it took me a while though my last a1c was 5.2 -- the one befor that was 5.1 ----anyway i ran out of strips 1 month ago ---the pharmasist gave me some to hold me over ----i yoused them and tryed to stay under 100---my bs was 85 and i took humilog like i do with my other strips ---------but i had a low bs disterbing night mare that night ----when i got my regular strips i tested them against the others and there was a 15 to 20 point differance not to big a deal except when you try to stay in a nornal rainge-----anyway i think i made a mistake BUT i trusted my meater, and not what anyone would tell me becouse of all through my life when i trust people i get screwed---today i went to by a diferant meater and did tests and i tested my wife and there is a 18 to 20 point increase in bs than the meater i was yousing there for ----i am glad that i was staying below 100 on my machien ,but when the pizzaman is wrong for saying something he will take his punishment ,but its the meaters falt you can say anything you want about me but remember i have been screwed by everybody i have ever come in contact with, it isnt somthing that i wanted to happon there for i do not hold myself responsible for my actions ,----so i havent quite figured out the total outcome of this yet but it will make a diferance in me and the way i treat my diabetes ----what it showes me so far is that it is possible to have a bs closer to 120 like everybody is saying ----i am glad i can ease up a little ----and not get nervice when my bs is 120 -----also i made my wife eat candy to see if she would go over 100 on my old strips and she did get to 105 witch makes me able to slack way of on myself ----now she thinks she is diabetec becouse i tested myself on my old strips and i was 74 ----witch is more like maybe 92 -----im going to figure this out i always do, somthings going to happon i just dont know what yet ----I THINK TRISH WAS RIGHT the problem is in my head more than my bs pizzaman current bs 83 on the old strips so that means 101 on your machien this is starting to confuse me

[princesslinda]

There are certainly discrepancies in results from meter to meter. I have found my One-Touch Ultra II is the meter than runs closest to my A1C results, so I use it. You'll also notice that your results will vary from finger to finger as well...it can drive you nuts if you obsess over it.

If I get a result that I think is "off," i'll immediately go and wash my hands and recheck....if it's still near the initial result, i'll assume it's accurate.

[Gangrel]

[quote=pizzaman3;258433]i fiqured somthing out it took me a while though my last a1c was 5.2 -- the one befor that was 5.1 ----anyway i ran out of strips 1 month ago ---the pharmasist gave me some to hold me over ----i yoused them and tryed to stay under 100---my bs was 85 and i took humilog like i do with my other strips /QUOTE]

Why oh why are you taking a shot of humalog at 85, unless you are eating at the same time?

[pizzaman3]

i feel better knowing that my bs dosent ever get over the recomended levels being the 80 to 120 levels and the fact that a nondiabetecs pancreas stops producing insulin when there bs is below 83 -----there for without realy knowing i figured my insulin had wore off and i was on the rise

[Gangrel]

Originally Posted by pizzaman3

i feel better knowing that my bs dosent ever get over the recomended levels being the 80 to 120 levels

That (at least in Canada) is the recommeded level for pre-meal time. However, 2 hours after eating, and over night, it can (and in my opinon should) get up to 7-10, which is 126 to 180.

Trying to maintain such a fine level of control as you are doing is more dangerous (as you've experienced) then helpful, at least in my opinon.

[xMenace]

There is at least a 10% variance in all strips & meters. There's no way you can definately say one strip is out based on only a few tests.

[pizzaman3]

you are right i know that i have known that for many years and i allso know that if i dont try to see how my body handles lower bs ,and i dont try my hardest to get the results neaded to stop complication ,than complication will acure adventualy pizzaman current bs 80 thats 98 on your meader

[pizzaman3]

i tested it on others to my one touch basic is off it is runing low by around 15 to 20--- my mean glucose leavel from my last a1c was 108----- and i figured it to be 85 to 95 i tested it with the strips from the pharmacy that were not generic and the pharmacist gave me 200 strips he knows i test 16 to 20 times a day that why i all most got intruble i yoused all most all the strips -------they were all higher by the same 15 to 20 ------than the other machien -----i tested 15 times in 2 minuts on all three machiens and my one touch basic is 15 to 20 lower than the others and i had the disterbing low bs reaction on the higher test stips ----becouse i took insulin when i wasnt yoused to those strips

[Gangrel]

That's your methods. I'm just trying to suggest you let yourself run a little higher, because if you keep going low, you might avoid future complications by sacrificing a future.

But to each their own.

[DeusXM]

Can I express a somewhat controversial opinion?

Pizzaman, I think your theory of control is fine. The best way to stave off complications from high blood sugar is to maintain BG levels equivilent to that of a non-diabetic.

However, whilst you know the theory, you're not actually practising it.

Non-diabetics don't have 4 hypos a day. Non-diabetics probably don't even manage 4 'real' hypos in a lifetime.

The problem is that you're trying to precision-manage your diabetes with imprecise tools. I can understand exactly why if you're a little over 100, you feel you should take some insulin to bring your levels back down. The problem is that even the fastest acting insulin works for over 2 hours - which means even a small amount of insulin at say, 110, will put you down in the 30s and 40s unless you eat.

I could understand your approach if it was a case that you took the insulin, it took you to 'normal' and then you stayed there. But there isn't any type of insulin available that can do that.

I don't wish to dishearten you but I do feel that your fear of complications has actually caused complications of a different kind to happen. The reason we all want to avoid complications is because we don't want the state of having diabetes to impair our quality of life. But I think that your intensive glucose management IS impairing your quality of life. If what you've posted is accurate, your self-admitted educational problems and your current employment are entirely down to having diabetes. If you had avoided complications, then you would have a freer choice of jobs.

I'm all for preventing complications caused by high blood sugar, but I think you're suffering from complications caused by LOW blood sugar. The cells in your brain need a steady supply of glucose to function - if they don't get enough glucose, they die. It is actually possible to sustain brain damage from frequent hypoglycaemia, and I'm sure you'd want to avoid this just as much as you'd want to avoid retinopathy or neuropathy.

For what it's worth, I really think you're pushing yourself too hard. I couldn't live my life like you do, having my choices limited by my condition when there isn't any real medical reason for it. It's perfectly possible to avoid complications from high blood sugar and yet lead a totally normal existence. If you're happy then that's fine - I'm not going to tell you to change how you do things because you've obviously reached some sort of comfort zone, and if it's really worked like this for the last 30 years then I guess that's something. But I think you're expecting too much of yourself unnecessarily.

[Harold]

Originally Posted by pizzaman3

i tested it on others to my one touch basic is off it is runing low by around 15 to 20--- my mean glucose leavel from my last a1c was 108----- and i figured it to be 85 to 95 i tested it with the strips from the pharmacy that were not generic and the pharmacist gave me 200 strips he knows i test 16 to 20 times a day that why i all most got intruble i yoused all most all the strips -------they were all higher by the same 15 to 20 ------than the other machien -----i tested 15 times in 2 minuts on all three machiens and my one touch basic is 15 to 20 lower than the others and i had the disterbing low bs reaction on the higher test stips ----becouse i took insulin when i wasnt yoused to those strips

You really need a new meter! This meter gives readings in Whole blood. From your meters manual;

Whole blood results are
approximately 12% lower than serum
or plasma results.

[Richard157]

Hello pizzaman, did you read the long reply I made to you on another of your threads? That thread is not in this list, it must be on page 2. How do we get to older threads in the type 1 forum? Does any body know?

Nice to see you here pizzaman. Every meter I have used is different from others I have used. Some people have told me they have just as good results with the cheaper Wakmart meter as they do with the more popular name brand meters. I think I might buy one of those, the strips are much cheaper too.

I wondered what happened to you pizzaman. You were hiding from me here! HA! HA! I found you! I am just kidding.

Richard

[pizzaman3]

i will continue to youse my meater ----the meater isnt the problem the diabetes is the problem----i will continue to strive for bs under 100 on my 1 touch basic ----and i will continue to get a1cs in the very very low 5's ------------------- harold is harold and what i am about to say has nothing to do with him -----------------im just me nothing more nothing less ----most everybody else thinks they are a genious -------pizzaman current bs 165 on my meater ----

[pizzaman3]

richard will you put me on probation, i deserve it ,for my behavior and if i behave myself maybe you can talk to jane haris and janis and see if i can return to dlife , maybe on 12-23 07- if i behave untill then maybe i can come back if i dont get kicked of this sight by then than that means i must be behaving myself ----you know me better than anyone else---i am getting ready to go to the pizzashop i will look for it tonight i did see you reply to me if that is the one you are talking about i miss everybody at dlife ---the grass isnt any greener on the other side ---tell dlife it was my meaters falt therefor i am not responsible for most of my actions

[princesslinda]

I really don't think anyone here thinks he or she is a genius...we're all in the same boat, trying to live the happiest and healthiest lives we can with diabetes. Some of us just have different ways of reaching the same goal--that goal being a life with as little complications as possible. If we had all the answers, there'd be no need to come here for support.

Pizzaman, if no one cared, no one would bother to respond. Some of us may express ourselves differently, but I truly believe we're all for the most part trying to lend support and offer help and encouragement to you and to one another.