[dodo]

Thank you Jodie for sharing your experience! I'm glad to see that you're OK! In fact, I've experienced an hypo myself last night and it was the worst one of my life!

I woke up around midnight feeling dizzy, managed to go downstairs, tested BSL and it read 2.0. Then I managed to get to the fridge and had a "black out". I had to lay on the kitchen floor until I had the courage to get the OJ carton and drink some. I stayed there until I was feeling better.

It is really scary when it happens especially when you're all by yourself. My husband wasn't home, but it freaked him out when I told him.

[TenderVittleS]

When I was in about 5th grade I had a low so bad I lost all my memory. I forgot even my mom's name and what city I was in. All I remember was my own name. My family found me in the fetal position, almost retarded early morning moaning and rushed me to the hospital. I thought I was dead! The insulin these days is 1000x times better than 20 years ago, I think you'll do just fne. Anyway its always better to stay higher especially near bedtime.

[Jodie]

It took me a few days to accually get over it. I have had hypos but nothing that bad the hypos I have had before have been around 3 but I just didnt test my blood this night because I couldnt wait any longer otherwise I would have been flat out I just wanted to get something inside me. God knows what my blood was i'm guessing maybe around 1 or 2 was really bad

[KEVIN88GT]

this thread really strikes home... I've been on a pump for a year with good control and continually dropping A1c levels until I had a hypoglycemic seizure..... it was after a straining day while participating in a soap box derby (lots of adrenaline) and It was a horrible event for me, my wife and my friends to experience.... this was in Oct and I've had MAJOR paranoia about going to sleep lately... always high lately before I go to bed.. just plain scared about that happening again.... sometimes I have to wait till 3am after bolusing (novolog takes like 3 hours to work) and feel like **** in the AM.

[xMenace]

Fun stuff isn't it?

Mostly from mdi days:
- 9 911's
- 3 ambulance rides
- 1 badly bruised foot from kicking the bedpost while convulsing
- 1 broken lamp
- I stopped the ceiling from caving in on us once, in the nude
- Had time stop on me once
- Drove 30km/20mi on a major highway with almost no recollection
- Driven a few other times in a partial daze
- Nearly knocked myself out collapsing chin first into the bathroom vanity
- Have needed assistance from my wife many times and my teenage son and daughter

You may now start to understand why I believe in testing and pumping!

[SueM]

Originally Posted by xMenace

Fun stuff isn't it?

Mostly from mdi days:
- 9 911's
- 3 ambulance rides
- 1 badly bruised foot from kicking the bedpost while convulsing
- 1 broken lamp
- I stopped the ceiling from caving in on us once, in the nude
- Had time stop on me once
- Drove 30km/20mi on a major highway with almost no recollection
- Driven a few other times in a partial daze
- Nearly knocked myself out collapsing chin first into the bathroom vanity
- Have needed assistance from my wife many times and my teenage son and daughter

You may now start to understand why I believe in testing and pumping!

In 43 yrs of using insulin I have never been unable to treat my hypo's. Never blacked out never had DKA

[xMenace]

Originally Posted by SueM

In 43 yrs of using insulin I have never been unable to treat my hypo's. Never blacked out never had DKA

I was never DKA, and I did work at it.

IMO I have very roller-coaster basals and I:C ratios. MDI just didn't work for me. I think I could do it after what I've learned here and from pumping, but in my previous life it was near impossible. I'm not that unique either. My conversations with medical and drug company people indicate somewhere around 35% of us have these up and down patterns. You flatliners (my assumption) have it much easier.

Thanks to the pump and the work I've done, I feel almost 100% confident that I can skip any meal and stay flat. I also feel confident that if I count my carbs correctly and my site is working well, that I can stay in target close to 100% of the time too.

The hypo incidents are way way down. I feel very good about my control. I also don't have the luxury of staying high to avoid hypos. Another round of neo-vascularization or severe edema and my eye(s) is(are) toast. They're pretty burnt already. We're set on getting to sub-6 A1C's regardless of the hypo risk.

[DeusXM]

As a point, has anyone here actually ever heard of anyone with diabetes dying from a hypo? Seriously, the only people I've ever known of dying from hypos were both on no-carb diets and bodybuilding. I'm not saying that having a nighttime hypo is all perfectly safe - just that in a normal individual it's very, very unlikely that a nighttime hypo will result in a fatality.

If this really were the case, then I have cheated death plenty of times, when I wake up the next morning with a bad head, high blood sugar and a memory of very vivid dreams. Nighttime hypos are frightening because they seem to cause a greater adrenaline rush, but they're not a massive problem in the grand scheme of things.

[xMenace]

My endo in his 20 some years of practice has lost two patients, and he claims they were self inficted overdoses.

I know of a high profile local case, but I suspect suicide. These things don't get published in the obits.

[SueM]

Originally Posted by DeusXM

As a point, has anyone here actually ever heard of anyone with diabetes dying from a hypo? Seriously, the only people I've ever known of dying from hypos were both on no-carb diets and bodybuilding. I'm not saying that having a nighttime hypo is all perfectly safe - just that in a normal individual it's very, very unlikely that a nighttime hypo will result in a fatality.

If this really were the case, then I have cheated death plenty of times, when I wake up the next morning with a bad head, high blood sugar and a memory of very vivid dreams. Nighttime hypos are frightening because they seem to cause a greater adrenaline rush, but they're not a massive problem in the grand scheme of things.

There was a 22 yr old who died from DIB syndrome(Dead in bed) she lived about 7 miles away from me. She was my friends sister. This happened about 12 years ago. A well controlled diabetic went to bed with normal blood sugars and died. Death certificate was death due to hypogly.

[nono87]

awww at least you ok Jodie, try not to think too much of it i know it can be scary i know there was a time when i slept through one and i must have been mumbling in my sleep and my mom heard me and came in too check and i was fast asleep!!

its tough going i had a hypo whilst driving from work today and lucky enough i had not yet got onto the motorway to drive home!!!

[ant hill]

Gee, I seem to be the only one who is lucky. I still have some hypos from time to time.
The all day low was so scary as I thought I have taken my Basel twice!! so I ate what I could and so two pizzas later and tested at least 10 times within 5 hours and still under 4.5 / 81 and I was scared if I had stopped eating I would go under.
Chocolate is good for this as it can keep you high for ages but you will soon get sick of that. So I cannot say which one is worse the bolus hypos or the Basel's.
The confusion is interesting as you go to do stupid things like have the oven on and nothing in it and just be a zombie.

[christie]

i've always had the roller coaster and unawareness recently, but last sun i had a really bad one, i got up and tested and i was ok 90,took my lantus, so i turned my coffeepot on and gave my son his adhd meds, so my daughter was still asleep so i layed in bed with her because it was cold and i figured i'd wake her up in about a half an hour. that was 10am and i did'nt come out until 1:30,my son gave me glucagon,i still could'nt talk,i knew and heard everything around me at that point but could'nt move or talk. so then my son gave me son glucose gel and i slowly got better, even when better i still had a hard time walking, and i felt like cr*p for 2 days. I have'nt had one that bad in quite a while.

[Funnygrl]

Originally Posted by DeusXM

As a point, has anyone here actually ever heard of anyone with diabetes dying from a hypo?

Yeah, 2 people. But both had other issues going on. And I can think of hundreds of people via message boards and real life I know who have diabetes.

I've also "cheated death" plenty of times. My CGMS has shown I regularly go into the 40s and 50s at night, but I rebound to the 70s within an hour or so.

[TrueWorship]

When I was on injections I had 2 incidents when my bg dropped while I was sleeping and I didn't wake up. They had to call the paramedics both times. One time I vaguely remember not letting the paramedic put an iv in the back of my hand. I kept pulling my hand back and saying "oww that hurts, quit it!" (That was also the time I didn't understand why it went low, because I had eaten brownies and milk before I went to bed. My bg should have sky rocketed, not dropped). However, since I've been on the pump, I've always woken up when my bg dropped at night. I don't know if it has something to do with the pump, or it likely may have something to do with the fact that before I started the pump I was on NPH with that nasty peak.

Jenn