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12-06-2007, 01:47 AM
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| | | I had a hypo last night This has probably the worse thing that has ever happened to me since being diabetic. I am 18 and have been diabetic since I was 5 but I dont think I have ever had a hypo as bad as this. Was about to go to bed and I tested my blood and I was quite high and I didnt want to go to bed high so I thought I would do abit of humalog so I was fine went to bed and I stayed awake to see how my blood would be and I started to have the symptoms of a low so gave it a few minutes and tested my blood and it read 2.2 and I just felt really bad I was accually really worried so I went down and got something really sweet came back up to bed and I was just laying there didnt know what to do I felt like I was going to pass out but I ate and then ate somemore eventually they went back up to normal. But I am so shocked this morning and i'm probably lucky to be here really cause if I did pass out they would have been no one around cause everyone was in bed in my house | 
12-06-2007, 02:22 AM
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| | | It's good to hear that you're ok, Jodie!
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12-06-2007, 03:15 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hastings Melbourne Australia
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| | Yes being low sucks Jodie. I have had this for 36+ years and having to understand to test regularly is essential for us unfortunately. Anyway it is good that you are well again to enjoy life. (((Hugs)))
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12-06-2007, 03:44 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sacramento California
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| | Sorry to rad about your hypo  , but I am prod of you for catching and treating it by yourself.
With todays modern insulin's I believe it give is a lot more room for treating lows then our previous insulin's, specially NPH imho and experience.
Does anyone else here have an internal alarm clock that wakes you when you are low? Everytime I hit 60mg/dl I wake not matter how passed out I am. I think this happens to me because I am so petrified of going low when no one is around.
Very glad you are better Jodie!!! Good catch. | 
12-06-2007, 04:13 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Syracuse, NY
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| | Jodie, lows are so scary! It is so hard to deal with those feelings for the 10-15 minutes after you've eaten to correct. It feels like an eternity. I'm glad to hear you're okay, though. Quote:
Originally Posted by BriOnH Does anyone else here have an internal alarm clock that wakes you when you are low? Everytime I hit 60mg/dl I wake not matter how passed out I am. I think this happens to me because I am so petrified of going low when no one is around. | Actually, I am such a deep sleeper, I fear I might sleep through a terrible low someday. There was one night during which my cat woke me up by jumping on the bed and then on top of me. (This happens sometimes.) As soon as I sat up to pet him, I felt all the wobblyness and shakes of a low. I tested and I remember being 49 or so.
I mean, I think my body would wake me at a certain point, but that point is really too low for comfort!
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12-06-2007, 04:17 AM
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| | | Keep a bottle of glucose next to your bed within arms reach. If you are so low you can't get up, at least you have that to rely on...
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12-06-2007, 04:24 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Jersey
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| | | Jodie:
Keep a log of all the events. That may help your claim for a pump. Looks like you are handling it quite well by yourself. You must be proud of it. I find that glucose tablets work pretty fast.
Keep some handy.
JayP | 
12-06-2007, 05:10 AM
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| | | A few things Jodie.
I find it hard to believe this is your first such hypo in thirteen years. By my thirteenth, I was a hypo pro. I nodded off all the time and I still do. I'm up to 10 such incidents in 2007, my lowest ever. Either you've had great control or you've always run high. I would bet a lot of money that your basals are pretty flat. I highly suspect your future experiences with hypos will be very good.
I take any need to correct as a sign of trouble. Too many times it's been a high GI sugar spike that didn't need to be treated or just laggy insulin that decides to kick in later. I now always set my alarm(s) to get me up through the nights.
You are lucky to be 18 and be at the height of hypo-awareness. The bad news is this will all but disappear. I got 911'd for the firt time at 34. I grew up feeling I had everything under control because I could recognise all my hypos and hypers. That was before the internet. I learned the 'old fashioned' way.
You were really not in any danger. Your liver most likely would have saved you. Did you go high later? Mine has brought me out of every hypo I've ever slept or convulsed through except for one. On that occaision I took my morning bolus and fell asleep on a chair. Ow! The real danger is the things you do while hypo such as driving, tree climbing, and wood working. Always test before such things regardless of how you feel.
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12-06-2007, 06:54 AM
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| | well comparatively since the 30/08/2007 i have had 23 lows of between 2.8mmol/L and 3.6mmol/L, with 1 very low of 2.2mmol/L. I am still trying to improv my control, i think you have done very well to get this far without any very low sugar levels. I hate lows as much as the next person  | 
12-06-2007, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by xMenace You were really not in any danger. Your liver most likely would have saved you. | I'd love to agree with you, but I've still not seen a shred of evidence that is the case. Personally, with all the people wearing a CGMS now, I'd think it would be easy to prove or disprove...
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12-06-2007, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Cyborg I'd love to agree with you, but I've still not seen a shred of evidence that is the case. Personally, with all the people wearing a CGMS now, I'd think it would be easy to prove or disprove... |
I know it's contentious, but really, it does take a big mistake to take you out. You will come out of most if not all normal hypos. I agree a study or some stats on deaths from hypos are missing.
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12-06-2007, 01:35 PM
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| | | Hypos are really scarry- I was getting some many while on shots of humulin 70/30 that I was not feeling the low's at all!! Now that I am on a pump the awarness of low blood sugar has returned.
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12-07-2007, 06:58 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, TN
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| | | I agree with John that deaths from hypo are rare when you are safely at home. Most deaths from hypo are the result of accidents that are the result of impaired cognitive function. That being said it is important to understand the biology of what is going on and how it is that the body can or can’t bring itself out of hypoglycemia. The liver for the most part will not kick in to start raising blood sugar until the level of circulating insulin drops to a certain point. Low blood sugars are the result of higher than needed circulating insulin levels. In this state the liver thinks that blood sugar is elevated (even though in an insulin dependant diabetic the blood sugar level could be dangerously low) so it starts storing circulating glucose either as glycogen in the lever, or when glycogen stores are full as fat in fat cells. Hormones released during hypoglycemia such as epinephrine, cortisal, norepinephrine and growth hormone will help produce glucose and lower the level of circulating insulin, but the “work horse” hormone for countering high insulin levels is glucagon and its release is greatly blunted by high circulating insulin levels. When circulating insulin drops to a point the liver determines to be lower than normal the liver will signal the pancreas to release glucagon and this will trigger the release of glucose through the processes of glycogenolysis. Also at lower insulin levels the liver will create new glucose from circulating amino acids by the process of gluconeogenesis. In an insulin dependant diabetic these glucose raising processes will continue until insulin levels are normalized regardless of how high blood glucose levels get (FYI: Glycogen stores are limited, so the body can run out of glycogen during long periods of low insulin levels, but the availability of amino acids (proteins) is endless and gluconeogenesis will continue until circulating insulin levels are normalized). So the reason there are a lot of stories of diabetics surviving night time hypoglycemic attacks is eventually the levels of circulating insulin gets to the point where the liver is capable of raising blood sugar levels without any outside help. However, the ride most certainly is one that no one wishes to repeat after the first experience.
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12-07-2007, 09:02 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Rothesay, New Brunswick Canada, eh
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| | Management of diabetes-related hypoglycemia.(Review Article)(Disease/Disorder overview) Industry & Business Article - Research, News, Information, Contacts, Divisions, Subsidiaries, Business Associations Mortality and Morbidity of Severe Hypoglycemia Although statistics on prevalence and incidence of mortality and morbidity from hypoglycemia are lacking, the likelihood of fatality appears low, (24) especially compared with deaths associated with diabetes. For example, the United Kingdom Prospective Diabetes Study in T2DM (4) found that each 1% reduction in A1c reduced risk of death, myocardial infarction, and microvascular complications (primarily retinopathy) by 21%, 14%, and 37%, respectively. Death due to hypoglycemia appears to be rare. When reported, it is usually associated with the use of long-acting sulfonylureas by elderly patients, alcohol intake, unusual drug interactions, (25-27) or with the "dead-in-bed" syndrome, which has been anecdotally linked to nocturnal hypoglycemia. (28)
When hypoglycemia is severe, convulsions and coma can occur; autonomic stimulation resulting from hypoglycemia can also have negative cardiac implications such as changes in heart rate, stroke volume, cardiac output, and myocardial contractility. (29) The neuroglycopenic symptoms of hypoglycemia may interfere with driving or other tasks requiring complex motor skills. Eye-hand coordination and decision-making can be compromised even with moderate hypoglycemia. (30,31) Blood glucose should be tested before driving and carbohydrates for self-treatment kept in vehicles. Because the effects of alcohol and hypoglycemia can be cumulative (32) and could combine with a loss of sensation from diabetes-related neuropathy, alcohol consumption represents a particular risk for individuals with diabetes who drive.
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A1C 4/08 6.0%
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12-07-2007, 10:51 AM
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| | A nasty hypo can be the WORST pain only another diabetic can understand. 
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