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Old 02-29-2008, 03:05 AM
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Cure??

I have done some Googling and looked at telegraph newspaper and thought "Is this the way to go for a cure?" What do you think?

Drug breakthrough 'could cure diabetes'
Do you think that this may have some merrit.
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Old 02-29-2008, 06:26 AM
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Peter,
I saw & posted this yesterday. Looked promising but a long way from general use. With all the potential cures being touted out there, we may need a whole separate forum for cures, eh?
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Old 02-29-2008, 09:46 AM
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YOu have to remember that for a drug such as this to work, you still need to have some beta cells. So for many of us, no this isn't a cure, but it is a step in the right direction. Once something like this becomes approved this should be great news for those that are newly diagnosed. That being said, something along these lines may help in culturing beta cells for transplant. However, until they can find a way to do away with the need for anti-rejection meds wouldn't be considering a transplant as an option even if it were avaiable. This isn't the only group looking at drugs with effects similar to these. Hopefully one of these groups can get something to market.
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Old 02-29-2008, 10:19 AM
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You are assuming that the body can't regenerate these beta cells; if the autoimmune system is stopped from attacking the beta cells then the body has a much greater chance of creating new cells. I could be wrong but that was my (limited) understanding.
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Old 02-29-2008, 08:43 PM
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we may need a whole separate forum for cures, eh?
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Mike, That's not a bad idea as many so called cures out there it's a wonder if we have the right one?

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You have to remember that for a drug such as this to work, you still need to have some beta cells. So for many of us, no this isn't a cure, but it is a step in the right direction.
Yes this is the right approach to a cure but to have beta cells that's still functioning is a key to successful operation.
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Once something like this becomes approved this should be great news for those that are newly diagnosed.
Why the newly diagnosed?
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That being said, something along these lines may help in culturing beta cells for transplant. However, until they can find a way to do away with the need for anti-rejection meds wouldn't be considering a transplant as an option even if it were available.
In any trans plant, Antirejection drugs are the normal thing to do.
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Old 03-01-2008, 01:53 PM
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Do you think that this may have some merit.
Quite frankly ant hill, No! of late they've been too many researchers in the pathfinders business, a step in the right direction, may be, who knows, I quote fellow poster morrisma we may need a whole separate forum for cures, its funny how these researchers arrives at the same destination, More research is needed scaremongering, more like it, a breakthrough or cure, they're not even close, what springs to mind here, the Telegraph, selling papers.

I can only hope, as like others diabetics, one day they will be a cure, to ease the suffering of this disease.

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Old 03-01-2008, 04:21 PM
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Do you think that this may have some merit.
Quite frankly ant hill, No! of late they've been too many researchers in the pathfinders business, a step in the right direction, may be
Meh OK, So we don't like the way they go about their business with the research
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who knows, I quote fellow poster morrisma we may need a whole separate forum for cures, its funny how these researchers arrives at the same destination, More research is needed scaremongering, more like it, a breakthrough or cure, they're not even close, what springs to mind here, the Telegraph, selling papers.
Ho shure have another forum as I am all ears on that score but how would you do the effort towards research. As for the newspaper well they have to earn a Pound or so and so too the researchers need money to buy equipment as it doesn't just come out of the sky.

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I can only hope, as like others diabetics, one day they will be a cure, to ease the suffering of this disease.
We would be too busy just living a life. If it was no researchers we would not have insulin!! Pronto!!!
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Old 03-01-2008, 04:38 PM
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Do you think that this may have some merit.
Quite frankly ant hill, No! of late they've been too many researchers in the pathfinders business, a step in the right direction, may be, who knows, I quote fellow poster morrisma we may need a whole separate forum for cures, its funny how these researchers arrives at the same destination, More research is needed scaremongering, more like it, a breakthrough or cure, they're not even close, what springs to mind here, the Telegraph, selling papers.

I can only hope, as like others diabetics, one day they will be a cure, to ease the suffering of this disease.

B/7 ESSEX UK.
It keeps the hope alive yes news papers make money out of it but it also increases awareness which is a good thing. The "more research needed" bit is always the best news (other than an actual cure) to hear. It means that it is still worth looking for the cure. Only time will tell.
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18.08.08-17.09.08 SD: 2.2mmol/L or 40mg/dl
18.07.08-17.08.08 SD: 2.5mmol/L or 45mg/dl
18.06.08-17.07.08 SD: 2.1mmol/L or 38mg/dl
18.05.08-17.06.08 SD: 2.5mmol/L or 45mg/dl

HbA1c:
21.05.08: 6.2 (7.9mmol/L or 143mg/dl)
29.11.07: 6.1 (7.7mmol/L or 140mg/dl)
23.05.07: 8.1 (11.6mmol/L or 211mg/dl)
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Old 03-02-2008, 12:00 AM
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You are assuming that the body can't regenerate these beta cells; if the autoimmune system is stopped from attacking the beta cells then the body has a much greater chance of creating new cells. I could be wrong but that was my (limited) understanding.
That's correct. Dr Denise Faustman has proven and others have replicated the experiment. The drug that helps grow new beta cells (pancreatic Beta cell neo genesis) is EXTREMELY inexpensive as well.

As far as a 'cure' i could care less. Just get me cellular therapy and it's as good as a cure to me. But hey, we all know a cure is just 5 years away. duh. I joke about that a lot, as most of us long timers have heard that 5 years away every year we have had it, every year.

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I want a poster of Faustman right up next to my Einstien poster lol. I love framing posters. I still need to get my Sin City 'Hartigan' (my last name ) poster framed with Willis and Jessica Alba.
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