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03-24-2008, 09:04 AM
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| | | My basal test
I'm doing basal testing today. I will go until I can't take the hunger anymore. I woke up at 140 at 9 am.
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03-24-2008, 09:05 AM
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| | | Good Luck.
I think I've finally got my overnight basal correct. I'm running very good numbers in the morning now.
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03-24-2008, 12:37 PM
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| | | ok here is my test so far...im starving...
9 am - 141
11 am - 146
12:30 am - 109
I will do one more then i need to eat!
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03-24-2008, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MinimedPumper07  ok here is my test so far...im starving...
9 am - 141
11 am - 146
12:30 am - 109
I will do one more then i need to eat! | Might as well just eat now, your basals already clearly need to be lowered around 11:30. |
03-24-2008, 01:23 PM
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| | | the only reason i was at 140 is because that is what i went to bed at. I just want to see if it will go down further. and wouldnt the basal need to be adjusted 2 hours PRIOR to when it went down?
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Pumping with Animas IR 1250 from December 18th, 2006-January 25th, 2007 (I don't like stinging boluses)
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03-24-2008, 01:31 PM
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| | | Okay thats all for today.
9 am - 141
11 am - 146
12:30 am - 109
1:30 pm - 101
Do you think I should lower my basal starting at around 9:30 am by about .05? and how long should that last?
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Diagnosed September 18th, 2006
Pumping with Animas IR 1250 from December 18th, 2006-January 25th, 2007 (I don't like stinging boluses)
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03-24-2008, 02:03 PM
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| | | I always go 1.5-2 hours ahead, but this depends on your insulin and your body... Since you likely started dropping before 12:30,
I would go more towards 10 or 10:30. I make adjustments by 10% usually, which is .1 or .15 for me on average.
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03-24-2008, 02:19 PM
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| | Great start, but not quite enough data for me to make a recommendation. I don't know what your rates are now, and I'd like more granular test data, say every 30 minutes for a 4 to 6 hour period.
I always include this in my basal test package as it gives a visual reference for the impacts of any adjustments. 
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03-24-2008, 02:24 PM
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| | | I'm with X on this one.
The problem is with your data is that you are alright for the first two and alright the last two. I'm assuming that the meter you are using is accurate as well. So if you make a change to make the middle two even (by lowering your basal) you need to pick it back up an hour later or else you are going to rise up.
Does that make sense? If you say drop it by 10% at 10:30 am, then your 1:30 pm is going to be high since you are using a lower basal rate at that time when the numbers from 12:30-1:30 are perfect.
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03-24-2008, 02:30 PM
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| | | Thought you only picked one at a time and then went back to regular schedule? I have never been able to do those and get it, but that is what they told me. I always drop too low, or jump way up too high. I would think if you skipped eating for 3 or 4 meals, that in itself would throw it off some. |
03-24-2008, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MinimedPumper07 ok here is my test so far...
9 am - 141
11 am - 146
12:30 am - 109 ... | I think it is important that the starting blood glucose is close to your target level. I find that simply being high changes the way my BG behaves. If it is high it tends to climb, and if it is low it tends to fall. You may find that if it had been at say, 100 at 9:00am, your blood glucose would have dropped during the second hour. Which would affect the timing of the change to your rates ..... 
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03-24-2008, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueSky I think it is important that the starting blood glucose is close to your target level. I find that simply being high changes the way my BG behaves. If it is high it tends to climb, and if it is low it tends to fall. You may find that if it had been at say, 100 at 9:00am, your blood glucose would have dropped during the second hour. Which would affect the timing of the change to your rates ..... | I've observed the same... and that insulin seems to act more quickly when I'm lower.
Adjusting basals is like iteratively solving a mathematical equation.
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03-24-2008, 06:33 PM
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| | | okay my current rate is .8 for that time so at 10 am i will change it to .7 until 12:30 am.
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03-24-2008, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Eddy Adjusting basals is like iteratively solving a mathematical equation. | I think it's more like debugging a computer program 
You may want to try .75 instead. The impact of small basal adjustments is always larger than I anticipate.
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