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03-26-2008, 04:42 AM
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| | This is insane!!!! I hope this works FOXNews.com - Police: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News
This poor girl!! She must have been through pure **** the last weeks of her life. Can anyone imagine how sick she was?
The parents need to be charged with murder or something along them lines. I intend to write to someone somewhere to make sure that people know this was abuse no matter which way you put it. 
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03-26-2008, 04:57 AM
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| | | It just makes me so sad. I knew a boy who died the same way 50 years ago. The attitude of everyone involved was "It was meant to be"! I can't believe it is still happening!
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03-26-2008, 04:59 AM
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| | | I agree with you. There is no good reason for this at all. This is just sick!
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03-26-2008, 05:25 AM
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| | | This is pure madness. What is also pure madness is that the authorities are leaving the other children there because there are 'no signs of abuse'. Please tell me what it is when you let a child die a slow, lingering death before your eyes and do nothing?
Holding back medical treatment in the belief that a higher power is going to take care of it IS abuse as far as I am concerned. I'm probably going to offend here, but 'respecting' people's religious beliefs can only go so far. If these parents let the girl die because they were praying to the fairies then you can bet they would have both older children taken away and find themselves behind bars. This kind of religious zeal is worrying to say the least; quoting absolute belief in a higher power should not excuse anyone from hideous acts in there here and now. Letting the other children see that belief in the supernatural is more important than love and protection of their sister (and them) cannot possibly end well.
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03-26-2008, 05:58 AM
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| | | I believe in praying to God but I also know that he needs a little help every now and then. Withholding medical treatment is abuse, whether it be a child or an elderly person. | 
03-26-2008, 06:31 AM
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| | | DKA is **** and to live in that state for 30 days just blows my mind.
If the parents feel that faith can heal things then that's fine but they had to of seen that their daughter wasn't getting any better and was getting worse. That's where faith doesn't play in the game anymore and they should have sought medical treatment then.
When I was sick with DKA before you feel like your dying of thirst, so you drink cups and cups of water only to vomit them back up. The routine goes on over and over again. Then you start to feel like you can't catch your breath. It's the worst feeling.
These parents had a duty to care for their sick child. They chose to ignore it and now the poor girl is dead. I don't see this being anything other then murder.
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03-26-2008, 06:32 AM
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| | | God gave us many tools (doctors included) and a brain (our own) to use. I think the other kids should be taken from these disgusting parents.
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03-26-2008, 06:41 AM
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| | | That is so sad and a complete disgrace. I agree with Jan and Cin, and do believe in praying, just make sure that it is accompanied by the Doctors. In fact if I was sick I would like people to pray for me and the doctors treating me.
It is hard to understand how the authorities don't see this as abuse.
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03-26-2008, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by camjen1 DKA is **** and to live in that state for 30 days just blows my mind.
If the parents feel that faith can heal things then that's fine but they had to of seen that their daughter wasn't getting any better and was getting worse. That's where faith doesn't play in the game anymore and they should have sought medical treatment then.
When I was sick with DKA before you feel like your dying of thirst, so you drink cups and cups of water only to vomit them back up. The routine goes on over and over again. Then you start to feel like you can't catch your breath. It's the worst feeling.
These parents had a duty to care for their sick child. They chose to ignore it and now the poor girl is dead. I don't see this being anything other then murder. | Sandi, I agree with you here. Anyone who has experienced DKA has experience He** on Earth.
When I had it, my mom knew something was terribly wrong. She called the doctor's office that morning and they said it was just a virus. She went on to work and called to check on me at 10. She realized I was getting worse and said she would be home to take me to the doctor at 11:30. I got out of bed, literally crawled to the bathroom and lied on the bathroom floor until she came home and found me there. My stupid doctor took one look at me and told her to take me straight to the ER. The rest is history (and I'm lucky to have survived it).
And I agree, the other teens in the home should be removed until the autopsy and a major investigation are completed. | 
03-26-2008, 06:53 AM
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| | | Not only are the parents guilty of abuse but there may be a minister and a community that are culpable for offering the kind of support that engenders this kind of faith response.
OTOH, as a nation we support religious freedom and allow many communities to set their own standards for education, health care, and even law. I believe Darwin will solve the problem in the long run.
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03-26-2008, 07:07 AM
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| | | Wow. It's truly shocking that this type of thing goes on. It boggles my mind that these people behave the way they do. I totally cannot get my head around the fact that they cant see that goodness is about your actions in your day to day life; not blind unquestioning faith. Whether or not their other offspring are in physical danger as a result of their beliefs, raising a child in such an unusual and restrictive environment surely cant be a good way of bringing up well balanced young adults who will make a positive contribution to society. i should get off my soapbox and stop ranting. for once im not too worried about offending anyone here....if you held these beliefs you wouldnt be alive to take offence....
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03-26-2008, 10:23 AM
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| | | It's a horrible and very sad case of extremism. I totally believe in prayer, and I've seen God do some really awesome and miraculous things in my lifetime, but I don't accept things like this as being "biblical" at all.
A life has been needlessly taken.
Two parents and anyone else within their religious circle are now responsible for murder.
And yet again the face of Christianity and God have been discredited by foolishness and ignorance.
These things disturb me on many, many levels.
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03-26-2008, 10:36 AM
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| | | The parents of this child should have their other kids put in care and then have charges of abuse brought on them, they knew she was diabetic and left her for 30 days!! We know what she must have been feeling. I was put in detention at school years ago for voicing my opinion on all religion while in class, this does nothing to change my mind. You can believe in anything you want as long as it doesn't bring harm to others. The local authorities should also look at themselves, they take some of the blame too | 
03-26-2008, 10:41 AM
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| | | I had to reply.......
Now those of you from Wisconsin...don't take this personally
(unless you are an ABSOLUTE idiot and have the brain capacity of a peanut shell and the IQ to match the amount of feet you have-then, by all means, take it personally!!!)
To the rest of the world....we are talking Wisconsin here...this is where the buffalo roam (and even they're not safe there!)
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03-26-2008, 03:19 PM
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