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04-30-2008, 02:48 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: warwickshire england
Posts: 84
| | | lowest i/carb
Who has the lowest insulin/carb ratio? Please tell me yours. Carolyn. |
04-30-2008, 03:33 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Canada
Posts: 70
| | | Hi there,
I was using 1 unit to 15 carb but have been adjusting that to 1u to 10 carb in the morning and 1 to 12 in the afternoon to gain better control.
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Pumping for 20
Minimed - Paradigm 722
Mar 2008 A1C - not telling
Next A1C - 6.5 |
04-30-2008, 04:59 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Derby,UK
Posts: 387
| | I lose already cos i take 4u -10g carb just call me a fat git  |
04-30-2008, 05:16 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Southern USA
Posts: 1,421
| | | The lowest I have is 1:10 for breakfast...but that's only for super busy days...normally it's 1:9.
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Incorrectly dx'ed type 2 7/00 
Correctly dx'ed type 1 5/01
MDI
Lantus 2x daily & Humalog
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04-30-2008, 05:59 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Royal Oak, Michigan
Posts: 605
| | | 1u: 8g for breakfast and lunch
1u: 6g for dinner. 7 or 8 is my usual dinner time and my highest basal is from 8p-12a (2.1) I find I can do 1:8g if I got afternoon exercise or was extra active.
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a1c 6.8 (5.12.08 FINALLY one I'm willing to put in my signature!)
Type 1 since 1984
MM 722 and CGMS
Symlin (when I feel like it)
Vitrectomy on the right 5/07 and left 7/07
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04-30-2008, 07:33 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Northern California
Posts: 5,516
| | I have a 1:6 to 1:10. I lose!!!! 
__________________  Nancy Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular. diagnosed type 1 October 1986
currently using Medtronic MiniMed
paradigm 715 CLEAR  |
05-01-2008, 10:31 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: London UK
Posts: 100
| | | i have a pretty big swing, if i havent exercised the day before i can be 1:10 in morning (usually 1:12); later in the day with no exercise 1:15 but if exercising a lot can be as low as 1:25 (and to think they thought i was type 2 for a moment!)
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05-01-2008, 10:45 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: California
Posts: 832
| | | Mine's1:9 on a normal day.
Mich |
05-01-2008, 10:48 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 5,319
| | | Ok..dumb T2 in the house!...why does the I:C ratio vary from meal to meal? Why does it vary from person to person if you are making none of your own insulin anyway?
__________________ T2, diagnosed 8/31/06.
Byetta 5 mcg
HCTZ 12.5 mg every other day for BP
Enalapril 20 mg 1 daily (ace-inhibitor)
Low carb dieter, taking chromium, multivitamin and fish oil tablets Initial A1C 8/06: 9.6
11/06: 6.2.
03/07: 5.3
06/07: 5.4
10/07: 5.3  |
05-01-2008, 11:23 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 139
| | | Just guessing... but there are two ends of the problem.. how much insulin you make and how well you use it. As you point out, those with tyie 1 (IDDM) don't make insulin. How well you use it depends on person and time of day ( which suggests the influence of other hormones during the day) |
05-01-2008, 11:37 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Rothesay, New Brunswick Canada, eh
Posts: 5,570
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Originally Posted by princesslinda  Ok..dumb T2 in the house!...why does the I:C ratio vary from meal to meal? Why does it vary from person to person if you are making none of your own insulin anyway? | Consider the dawn phenomenon: a release of hormonic soup that makes us insulin resistant. Our bodies realease this stuff continually, but it's not always at the same level. Our bodies tend to shut down and need less for our afternoon siestas and night time snoozes and wakes up and needs more for our morning charge and evening mating rituals. These swings mean different basals and different bolus ratios.
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05-01-2008, 11:42 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 5,319
| | | So you determine these ratios by taking "x" amount of insulin and if it doesn't give you the expected post-meal results you increase your insulin by a few increments each time until there's very little variance after meals?
I'm just thinking that as a T2 i'll eventually end up on insulin, and the T2s I know of who are on insulin basically take just 1-2 shots a day...which is much less than that taken by most everyone here on insulin. Are the needs of a T2 on insulin going to be different than that of a T1?
__________________ T2, diagnosed 8/31/06.
Byetta 5 mcg
HCTZ 12.5 mg every other day for BP
Enalapril 20 mg 1 daily (ace-inhibitor)
Low carb dieter, taking chromium, multivitamin and fish oil tablets Initial A1C 8/06: 9.6
11/06: 6.2.
03/07: 5.3
06/07: 5.4
10/07: 5.3 |
05-01-2008, 12:17 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: UK
Posts: 356
| | I Would like to make an entry for the highest I:C, I warn you though these are still experimental  Not 100% tested. Do I get a medal? I have a TDD of 9.5 at the moment, might need to increase my ratio at dinner, i predict to 1:60 approximately.
1:23 morning
1:32 lunch
1:54 dinner
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A1c 6.1 - 29th of Novemember 2007
A1c 8.1 - 23rd of May 2007 
Diagnosed 27th of August 2006
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05-01-2008, 12:47 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NE USA
Posts: 103
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Originally Posted by princesslinda I'm just thinking that as a T2 i'll eventually end up on insulin, and the T2s I know of who are on insulin basically take just 1-2 shots a day...which is much less than that taken by most everyone here on insulin. Are the needs of a T2 on insulin going to be different than that of a T1? | I'm a T2 on insulin and I take 6 to 8 shots a day; 2 basal, 1 get-up in the morning correction, 1 per meal or snack (4), and other corrections. That's what's required, so that's what I do. |
05-01-2008, 01:50 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: UK
Posts: 356
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Originally Posted by Real4 I'm a T2 on insulin and I take 6 to 8 shots a day; 2 basal, 1 get-up in the morning correction, 1 per meal or snack (4), and other corrections. That's what's required, so that's what I do. | To work out your I:C (Insulin : Carb) ratio, calculate the carbs in your meal, take each item and do ((100 / carbs per 100g)*weight of food). Then divide the sum of the answers by the number of units of insulin. The point of having an I:C is that it allows you to vary your carbs, so if the next day you wanted more or less carbs you could easily adjust your insulin. To prove that your I:C works you can test before the meal and 2:30 hours later. I know your a type 2 but it might help you as you are insulin dependent, us type 1s have lots of fun with this. Carb Counting 101
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A1c 6.1 - 29th of Novemember 2007
A1c 8.1 - 23rd of May 2007
Diagnosed 27th of August 2006
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