Lantus Users - Page 2

Clint · #16 (**permalink**) 01-06-2005, 03:23 PM

I have done that and it still burns... oh well

buzzborne · #17 (**permalink**) 01-06-2005, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rzrbks

The only time I get that "Burning Sensation" is when I inject it while it's still cold. I usually draw out my Lantus about 15 minutes before I inject it. That gives the Lantus enough time to warm up to room temperature--then, no burning.

hmmm... this doesnt work for me.. i still get the burning sensation.... even if it has been outta the fridge for 1/2 hr... sometimes it doesnt go in the fridge and still get it

may · #18 (**permalink**) 01-07-2005, 06:02 AM

Letting it sit out last night didn't help!
It still burnt..the stinging sensation.
I asked my sister if she ever has that problem with Lantus,
and she said never. It just must do it to some people, I don't know.
My bottle is new, and my experation date is good, and it is "expensive"!
To expensive to throw out to just try another!
I can live with it!!

Clint · #19 (**permalink**) 01-07-2005, 07:46 AM

mine stung some this morning.... Like may said, 'I can live with it'...

HeatherP · #20 (**permalink**) 01-07-2005, 10:03 AM

My endo warned me ahead of time that Lantus can cause a burning sensation.

I don't have much problem with it, but I inject relatively small amounts. The volume may have something to do with it. You guys can try pushing it a little slower.

docta-docta · #21 (**permalink**) 01-08-2005, 02:16 PM

Some things that may help:

1) After filling the syringe and replacing the Lantus back in the fridge, warm the syringe with your fingers. Warmer insulin doesn't sting as much.

2) With time, the stinging seems to go down... It usually takes about 6 months before one notices it. I'm not sure why the stinging decreases with time. Perhaps the neurons lose their sensitivity to the acidity of the Lantus?

3) I read somewhere on this boad that some people report that it is safe to mix Lantus with Novo/Humalog. I wouldn't suggest doing this based on those people's reports. The acidity of the Lantus is what keeps it "in solution". It precipitates out of solution once the body's tissues neutralize the acidity (at a pH slightly over 7). The pH of Novolog is slightly acidic, but not as aciditic as Lantus. I'm guessing that perhaps the acidity is enough to keep the Lantus "in solution", but probably just by a couple magnitudes of H+ ions. Until the paper inserts in Lantus prescriptions state that it's okay to mix, I don't suggest it!

zookeeper671 · #22 (**permalink**) 01-08-2005, 03:45 PM

About a month ago I switched from taking Lantus at night, to in the morning (8 AM). I was experiencing too many night-time lows. The morning shot seems to be working out well. My numbers are good when I wake up (118-130). Hopefully it'll work out for you, too, Cin.

As for the burning: I used to feel some stinging after injecting for a couple of months, but now I don't feel it anymore... unless I inject it cold, from the fridge.

Angie

gettingby · #23 (**permalink**) 06-14-2005, 10:09 AM

Just an update on how the Morning dosing is working out. It seems to be going really well. I don't have the lows at 2-3AM anymore. When I do have lows, it's in the mid-morning or late afternoon range but for the most part, it is my own stupidity. I'm either miscalculating my Humalog dosage and doing more activity than I think I am. So far, so good. Will find out next week how I am doing.

UpNorth · #24 (**permalink**) 06-14-2005, 02:22 PM

I too felt the burning from lantus. I'm on a pump now and switching over to injections again in a few days (just for summer) and seems like i'll be put onto Levemir instead now- apparently it doesn't burn or anything. Will be interesting to see

I only took lantus in the PM (around 9pm) and it worked really good for me

Didn't get the full 24 hours but would just inject some novorapid when Lantus started to wear off after about 22 hours

DeusXM · #25 (**permalink**) 06-17-2005, 04:47 AM

Lantus burns because it's at a significantly different pH to the rest of the body. Warming it up may alleviate this but in most cases it won't. The pH difference is how Lantus lasts so long - its pH means it is absorbed at a slower rate than other insulins.

The pH difference is also the reason as to why Lantus tends to have a higher risk of side-effects and and more unpleasant side-effects than any other insulin.

Levemir has a much lower side-effect rate because it binds to albumin in the blood to slow its absorption rate. However most people on Levemir will also find that they will need to massively increase their dosage from whatever they were taking previously - I went from taking 30u of Insulatard a day to 60u of Levemir and I was still having to inject with 5u of Novorapid every 2 hours just to keep my bg at around 10. It was at that point I decided to give it up.

mark-TN · #26 (**permalink**) 06-17-2005, 08:00 AM

My Lantus shot does not burn even if it is cold. Like Clint said I think a lot depends on the dose. I take 4 units Lantus between 10:30-11:00 pm and I take 3.5 units of Lantus at or before 6:30 am. Just over 2 years ago I took only a PM shot of Lantus before bed and my sugars would almost always be low in the morning and would always start running high by 4-6 pm. With one shot I needed to take I believe about 11 units of Lantus and the shot would always burn if it was cold. I used to draw my dose and let it sit for about 20 minutes or if I was short on time I would rotate the loaded syringe between my thumb and finger tips to warm it up a bit. The slit dose works a lot better for me as I need less insulin, my sugars are level all day, and I do not get the burning.

Mark

bac4uw · #27 (**permalink**) 06-17-2005, 12:55 PM

I'm a 2-per-day Lantuser... 8 units at 7am and 8 units at 7pm. I've never had any problem with burning -- the only problem I sometimes encounter is that I forget to take one of the doses. (at least, I'm still covered by a 50% dose though when this happens)

Bryan

james kirk · #28 (**permalink**) 06-17-2005, 02:17 PM

My BG this a.m. was 420 and sure enough the 29th day has come and I waste 1/4 of my Lantus...why do we take this so easily...almost everyone who takes Lantus winds up throwing away alot of the Insulin...why do we so sheepishly let this drug company use us and abuse us...everyone on this forum that uses Lantus is a victim who gladly bows to the maker..'thank you, massa'...put the stuff in a regular vial...I've sent a number of notes to their customer service dept. and they haven't responded...maybe it's because I came up in the 60's but this is really pissing me off and it isn't right...maybe the rest of you enjoy your role ( if I had health insurance and somebody else paid for me maybe I would not care either...

bac4uw · #29 (**permalink**) 06-17-2005, 02:42 PM

Wow, you're bitter. Cheer up.

I attribute the *excess* Lantus that I throw away every month to the fact that people have varying insulin needs. So while I throw away 1/3 of my bottle every month -- someone else might need to use nearly the whole thing.

I'd say that it would be much MORE devasting for this person to run out on the 25th day of the month and not be able to get more until the 30th. Don't you?

Have a nice day James. (Massa?... hmmm... that's not quite PC now is it?)

Bryan

bac4uw · #30 (**permalink**) 06-17-2005, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by james kirk

everyone on this forum that uses Lantus is a victim who gladly bows to the maker..'thank you, massa'....

And oh yeah you're right, silly me, I'll stop taking Lantus now. Those jerks!

Wait... on second thought... ER visits cost way more than I'm paying for an entire year's worth of Lantus. Instead of not taking Lantus, I guess I'll just have to try and keep my hands and knees as clean as possible (from bowing down, of course).

Bryan