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Old 06-12-2009, 02:07 PM
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Dieting again, high carb and little insulin

So I did 4 days with sub 50 grams of carbs, then for three days now, I've eaten about 350-400 grams of carbs a day and as little fat as possible.

My BG has been very stable and I only take about 10-15 units a day of bolus, no basal.

I just don't get how this is possible.

If I eat candy or pizza, my BG would rise. But if I stay with just potatoes,oatmeal with milk, rice and chicken, without any sauce or anything like that, it doesn't rise much at all.

This is great and all, means I can diet on low carb a few days and my BG will be very good even when eating high carb.

Anyone have any similar experiences?
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So I did 4 days with sub 50 grams of carbs, then for three days now, I've eaten about 350-400 grams of carbs a day and as little fat as possible.

My BG has been very stable and I only take about 10-15 units a day of bolus, no basal.

I just don't get how this is possible.

If I eat candy or pizza, my BG would rise. But if I stay with just potatoes,oatmeal with milk, rice and chicken, without any sauce or anything like that, it doesn't rise much at all.

This is great and all, means I can diet on low carb a few days and my BG will be very good even when eating high carb.

Anyone have any similar experiences?

NO! Potatoes? I am, like, so envious! Are you a 1.5? At what age were you dx'd? I hope you are monitoring very often?
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Old 06-12-2009, 02:26 PM
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Definitely interested in what your c-pep is going to say Viranth, or if something else comes about! Just the lack of bolus is extremely unusual, it just doesn't fit in with the type 1 condition of insulin absence.

I guess if you are effectively type 1.5 and going through a stage of high pnacreas activity, it sure makes sense you can deal with a lot of carbs without much spike, as per closer to the non-diabetic condition.

I'm curious, if you do you want to lose weight, is that what you mean by dieting?
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I am a type 1.5. If I eat low carb for a while, I can get away with eating higher carbs, but only for a few days. It definitely catches up with me. Maybe the low carbing pleases the pancreas so that it is well rested and can put out a little spurt of good hard work for a couple of days until it gets tired again. Not sure.
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Old 06-13-2009, 12:33 AM
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Definitely interested in what your c-pep is going to say Viranth, or if something else comes about! Just the lack of bolus is extremely unusual, it just doesn't fit in with the type 1 condition of insulin absence.

I guess if you are effectively type 1.5 and going through a stage of high pnacreas activity, it sure makes sense you can deal with a lot of carbs without much spike, as per closer to the non-diabetic condition.

I'm curious, if you do you want to lose weight, is that what you mean by dieting?
Yes, loosing fat. Down to 10% bodyfat now, going to take some pictures today, maybe I'll share some here.

Like it's said, I can go low carb for a while, and back to high carb and it will catch up with me. I took a c-pept test two weeks ago and I'm still waiting for the results.
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I'm curious, if you do you want to lose weight, is that what you mean by dieting?
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Yes, loosing fat. Down to 10% bodyfat now, going to take some pictures today, maybe I'll share some here.

Like it's said, I can go low carb for a while, and back to high carb and it will catch up with me. I took a c-pept test two weeks ago and I'm still waiting for the results.
So what do you do in exercise?
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I'm speculating that you have very high levels of amylase.
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I'm speculating that you have very high levels of amylase.
That's very interesting, will have to get that checked.

Ant hill: I lift weights.

Measured my bodyfat again yesterday, it was now 9.4%, so I went from 10.65% on the 10th down to 9.4% in 3 days.

Very happy with the results, and we took a lot of photos and such, the photographer will edit the pictures and such, so we'll get them in a little bit I suppose.
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I'm speculating that you have very high levels of amylase.

? Why do you think that? Wouldn't it lead to humongous sugar spikes due to rapid digestion of starches?
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That's very interesting, will have to get that checked.

Ant hill: I lift weights.

Measured my bodyfat again yesterday, it was now 9.4%, so I went from 10.65% on the 10th down to 9.4% in 3 days.

Very happy with the results, and we took a lot of photos and such, the photographer will edit the pictures and such, so we'll get them in a little bit I suppose.
OHO. So you are doing what runners call carb-ups. THAT is where it is all going ... you have like, NO insulin resistance, due to a huge carb disposition area! It converts into glycogen so rapidly you do not spike ... then gradually releases over the non carbing days.
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Initial A1c Feb 6 09: 12%
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Jul ... C-pep 1.3, GAD-65 > 30

metformin 1000 mg BID
Simvastatin 80 mg
Ramipril 5 mg
T4 125 mcg
baby aspirin
Vitamin D3, 2000 IU (blood values normal, advised to continue this dose by endo)
CoQ10 100 mg
Eating 70 - 90 g carb per day
Interval training on recumbent cycle
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