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06-26-2009, 02:47 PM
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| | | New member- First thread- May be diabetic I'm new to this forum, and the most recent forum I've been using related to health was/ is celiac.com/gluten-free. I think it's possible that I may be diabetic, more so the calluses on each of my second toe ( from the big toe) arised the awarnes. Since being gluten- free I have been seeing improvements, and a slight improvement in calluses ( not really my lymph node) and a few other things but nothing has completely disappeared. Strangely I have been eating a lot less and gain weight. When I was eating much, with gluten in my diet I was 103-105 pounds, now 109 ( 17 years old). There are many symptoms that I question on whether being diabetic, and thought I have seen little improvements since there was a change in my diet and less intake possibly of glucose.
What are ways I can diagnose myself in determing whether I'm diabetic or not? I would really like to get this all taken care of before my senior year takes way, and so college. I'm already stress from my local health system, a horrible job thats being done ( Lansing, Michigan- Sparrow Hospital). I now have intentions of more than likely fleeing the state for college, and never return to be a resident. This is a very urgent/ stressful situation for me, thanks. | 
06-26-2009, 02:59 PM
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| | Well, at the risk of breaking my mantra that no-one can diagnose you over the internet and you need to see a doctor, you haven't exactly outlined any symptoms of diabetes. Calluses on the feet are not a symptom of diabetes; they're a symptom of poorly fitting shoes. Quote: |
What are ways I can diagnose myself in determing whether I'm diabetic or not?
| In the nicest possible way, I'm going to be quite blunt here.
What on earth do you think you're going to solve by diagnosing yourself?
If you DO have diabetes, you're going to have to see a doctor anyway to get prescriptions for all the stuff you'd need to treat diabetes. How does 'diagnosing yourself' help in any way?
Here's what you need to do.
Get yourself some health insurance if you haven't got any already.
Go see a doctor and get tested for diabetes. Diabetes is a serious chronic medical condition. It's not like buying a home pregnancy test. The only way you can get a diagnosis is to see a doctor who will run several tests depending on your symptoms.
It is not possible for you to diagnose diabetes yourself at home and you shouldn't even try. See a doctor. | 
06-26-2009, 03:04 PM
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| | I have like overhalf of the symptoms on this page ( and others not listed): Symptoms of Diabetes - WrongDiagnosis.com | 
06-26-2009, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DeusXM Well, at the risk of breaking my mantra that no-one can diagnose you over the internet and you need to see a doctor, you haven't exactly outlined any symptoms of diabetes. Calluses on the feet are not a symptom of diabetes; they're a symptom of poorly fitting shoes.
In the nicest possible way, I'm going to be quite blunt here.
What on earth do you think you're going to solve by diagnosing yourself?
If you DO have diabetes, you're going to have to see a doctor anyway to get prescriptions for all the stuff you'd need to treat diabetes. How does 'diagnosing yourself' help in any way?
Here's what you need to do.
Get yourself some health insurance if you haven't got any already.
Go see a doctor and get tested for diabetes. Diabetes is a serious chronic medical condition. It's not like buying a home pregnancy test. The only way you can get a diagnosis is to see a doctor who will run several tests depending on your symptoms.
It is not possible for you to diagnose diabetes yourself at home and you shouldn't even try. See a doctor. | Oh wow.
I know I can't just diagnose it, like get rid of it or anything. I'm speaking of any diet I could go on, and if I see improvements may be a sign that I have diabetes. I know I need to see a doctor, as I wish. Though currently my lately appointments the doctors mention they don't know what it could at the moment, but only looking at treating the anxiety. I gave a site where over half of my symtoms are listed, again some are not. | 
06-26-2009, 03:36 PM
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| | I'm not sure why you're here? If you have TYPE 1 then changing your diet would not make any difference at all in "improving" your symptoms. It's an autoimmune disease, our bodies simply don't make any insulin.. changing what we eat, does not change that fact.
Talk to your doctors if you have concerns.. and stop using google to diagnose yourself
Also AFIAK, calluses are not a symptom of diabetes.. I've had callused feet since I was 13 or 14.. I didn't develop T1 until 6 years later. My mom has had them all her life... | 
06-26-2009, 03:38 PM
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I'm speaking of any diet I could go on, and if I see improvements may be a sign that I have diabetes. I know I need to see a doctor, as I wish. Though currently my lately appointments the doctors mention they don't know what it could at the moment, but only looking at treating the anxiety.
| If your doctors aren't sure what it could be, I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest it probably isn't diabetes. Diabetes is a condition that is relatively easy and obvious for a doctor to diagnose. But in answer to your question, there isn't really a special diet you can go on that will help demonstrate either way. Most forms of diabetes will require medication in order for there to be a demonstrable difference and without this medication it won't really matter what changes you make in your diet.
I'm assuming that your doctors have already carried out an HbA1C test, a fasting blood glucose test, a urine ketone content test, a glucose tolerance test and possibly a GAD antibody test. If not, you should ask why not and they will probably give you a very good reason why.
I will say this - given your age (and weight), I would suggest that T2 is unlikely. T1 is far more common in teens than T2 and the symptoms of T1 are far, far more acute that T2. Simply put, you'll look like you just got out of Auschwitz and you'll be urinating 30 every minutes. Without knowing your height or gender I couldn't even begin to tell you whether 109lbs is appropriate for you but I would say that it is absolutely impossible to put on weight with undiagnosed T1. | 
06-26-2009, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by sarahspins I'm not sure why you're here? If you have TYPE 1 then changing your diet would not make any difference at all in "improving" your symptoms. It's an autoimmune disease, our bodies simply don't make any insulin.. changing what we eat, does not change that fact.
Talk to your doctors if you have concerns.. and stop using google to diagnose yourself
Also AFIAK, calluses are not a symptom of diabetes.. I've had callused feet since I was 13 or 14.. I didn't develop T1 until 6 years later. My mom has had them all her life... | Wow, I do not use google to diagnose myself.. more so help/ research.
Well it's really clear that I'm not getting the information I thought I would recieve on this thread, though ofcourse I will not let two users give me a negative impression of this forum etc.... | 
06-26-2009, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DeusXM If your doctors aren't sure what it could be, I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest it probably isn't diabetes. Diabetes is a condition that is relatively easy and obvious for a doctor to diagnose. But in answer to your question, there isn't really a special diet you can go on that will help demonstrate either way. Most forms of diabetes will require medication in order for there to be a demonstrable difference and without this medication it won't really matter what changes you make in your diet.
I'm assuming that your doctors have already carried out an HbA1C test, a fasting blood glucose test, a urine ketone content test, a glucose tolerance test and possibly a GAD antibody test. If not, you should ask why not and they will probably give you a very good reason why.
I will say this - given your age (and weight), I would suggest that T2 is unlikely. T1 is far more common in teens than T2 and the symptoms of T1 are far, far more acute that T2. Simply put, you'll look like you just got out of Auschwitz and you'll be urinating 30 every minutes. Without knowing your height or gender I couldn't even begin to tell you whether 109lbs is appropriate for you but I would say that it is absolutely impossible to put on weight with undiagnosed T1. | Well the weight I gain it more so seem like I lost weight in areas and gain weight isn't really that visible. For you to say since my doctors have no clue what is wrong its likely not to be diabetes... I disagree but I'm really not going to get into that discussion, along with how t1 and t2 is not easy all the time to diagnose. Again calluses is not my only symptom and gave a link to where I have over half to most all the symptoms listed plus others. I'm clearly not get the responses I would have appreciated, but this is only my first time on this forum so I'am not surprise. | 
06-26-2009, 04:51 PM
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| | | While it CAN be difficult to distinguish between each type of diabetes when someone is newly diagnosed, the actual diagnoses of diabetes is really straightforward.. you need significantly elevated blood glucose - there really is not much room for "maybe... maybe not"
So again I question why you are here. Do you WANT diabetes.. or?? A weight fluctuation of 4lbs is honestly, insignificant - it doesn't mean anything at all. Now, if you suddenly dropped 20lbs while eating everything in sight, that might be a little more compelling. | 
06-26-2009, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by sarahspins While it CAN be difficult to distinguish between each type of diabetes when someone is newly diagnosed, the actual diagnoses of diabetes is really straightforward.. you need significantly elevated blood glucose - there really is not much room for "maybe... maybe not"
So again I question why you are here. Do you WANT diabetes.. or?? A weight fluctuation of 4lbs is honestly, insignificant - it doesn't mean anything at all. Now, if you suddenly dropped 20lbs while eating everything in sight, that might be a little more compelling. |
Reading your comment, your post are no longer welcome on my threads, meaning I would appreciate if you no longer leave such comments or any comments at all.
You do not know all my symptoms, and those were only a few listed. I have not had any blood work done to out weigh the possibility of diabetes. Do I want diabeties? I find it hard that I'm actually answering such a rude ( yes rude) question of yours, but more so if I have diabeties since it is very possible this needs to be evaluated. Simply why I'am here to get answers to a thread I started and clearly as I've stated before... your comments are no longer welcome here.
I do not need to explain anything else to your comments, that would just be pointless. | 
06-26-2009, 05:55 PM
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| | | Why don't you list your symptoms? If you gained weight you certainly don't have type 1 and from your age and weight it's almost impossible to have type 2.
So here's your diagnosis: you don't have diabetes. You do seem to be a bit of a hypochondriac though. | 
06-26-2009, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Grunch Why don't you list your symptoms? If you gained weight you certainly don't have type 1 and from your age and weight it's almost impossible to have type 2.
So here's your diagnosis: you don't have diabetes. You do seem to be a bit of a hypochondriac though. |
Well it would just be ridiculous of me to think you diagnose me, but maybe ( and maybe) you did point out interesting things. Well I'm not asking any of you do I have diabeties, nor am I'm stating that I do, and neither would I rule the chances out on anyones call without a test unless my health was getting better by other means. It's clear this thread has been tamper with by posters, since now no one seems to be answering my original ( and only ) question.
With me possibly being celiac, and knowing the relations of many misdiagnose for both it's logical to be cautious and ask such questions.
Re-reading what you wrote, I see things I disagree with ( such as impossible to have type 2 for my age etc...) though I will not keep tracking off my original question. | 
06-26-2009, 06:49 PM
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| | | What's the original question? It seems like you are asking for ways to diagnose yourself but we already told you that's not possible.
If you know someone who has a blood glucose meter you can measure it and see if it's high. Other than that just go to the doctor.
I see you mentioned "possibly being celiac" and you also said you completely changed your diet because of this. Why don't you have a proper diagnosis for that? Did you self diagnose using google? | 
06-26-2009, 07:09 PM
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| | | With a solitary symptom of calluses, you don't have diabetes.
Eating less and gaining weight can come from a mood disorder, thyroid troubles, or even eating "less" but taking in higher calorie foods... a 17 y/o male with a weight of 109# would be 5'0" tall if at ideal body weight.
Your comments on fleeing the state and never returning add an interesting chapter to this story.
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06-26-2009, 07:25 PM
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| | | Celiac disease and diabetes are interrelated but one doesn't mean a person has the other. Its like saying I have diabetes so I must have pancreas cancer. Yes, it is possible to have both but one doesn't mean you have the other.
Have you seen a GI? I highy recommend you do first. Celiac's disease will cause weight loss, thirst, hunger (many of the common symptoms of diabetes). You will need a blood test. Ask the dr to add an order for glucose. A good GI will also order a Colonoscopy because if you have Celiacs, your GI track is damaged. Left too long leads to cancer.
The reason you feel thrist and hunger (assuming you have Celiac's) is your GI tract can not absorb the nutrients from the food you eat.
Diabetes is pretty clear cut. Diet does not make it disappear.
I believe you received a bit of cold response because many people ask if they have it. They believe it is a minor thing that can be reversed. It is a serious condition. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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