Hmmmmm

thisstinks · #1 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 11:05 AM

DIET SODA RAISES MY BG..NOT JUST A LIITLE...300-600.....OR IS IT IT MIMICING HIGH BG..
I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GO BELOW 150 WITHOUT FEELING SICK OR PASSING OUT..

FOR THE LAST WEEK I HAVE NOT GONE TO THE STORE TO GET ANY AND HAVE ONLY DRANK WATER..THIS LAST NIGHT I TESTED 87..DIDN'T TAKE ANY INSULIN..(AFRAID TO GO WAY LOW)FIGURED IT WOULD GO UP BY MORNING..NOPE..89..SO WHAT THE ****

SO MUCH FOR MY DOC TELLING ME TO DRINK DIET INSTEAD OF REGULAR..

THE ONLY ONE THAT KNOWS HOW YOU WORK IS YOU...TRUST NO DOCTOR,THEY WILL GET YOU KILLED

Moonglo · #2 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 11:08 AM

Just to make sure I read that right... you tested after drinking diet soda, and came back between 300 and 600? That's kinda a vast range. My initial reaction is wash your hands and try again. You never know when something you have touched might be high in sugar and skew your results.

Gangrel · #3 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 11:09 AM

I have never heard of anyone going high after a diet soda. Are you sure you're drinking diet?

sarahspins · #4 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Gangrel

I have never heard of anyone going high after a diet soda. Are you sure you're drinking diet?

Agreed... to go to 600 after drinking anything it would need to be about 24oz of juice or regular soda.

shiftzor · #5 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 12:46 PM

I think everyone has already posted answers to your problem and it has little to do with diet soda. Please stop shouting and urgently seek professional medical help. If it means you check yourself into hospital until your bg becomes normal again then do so. If your current doctor cannot provide you with answers then find another doctor who can!

You obviously haven't read a single response or attempted to tackle the real problem at hand. Only reason I am posting is for other people reading this thread to understand that the diet soda is not the problem instead you are not taking enough insulin.

Sorry for the lack of sympathy but you are heading into troll territory or you are desperately in need of medical assistance which no one on a forum can give.

DanG · #6 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by thisstinks

THE ONLY ONE THAT KNOWS HOW YOU WORK IS YOU...TRUST NO DOCTOR,THEY WILL GET YOU KILLED

I agree - you can yell that mantra as many times and as often as you can.
The doctor that handled me in the hospital 35 years ago told me this. I believed him then - I still live by that. Sorry to offend any doctor - but I try to be abrupt and upfront with any doctor that is going to provide care - they can deal with us exceptional patients - they make much better money than most us, fwiw.

Moonglo · #7 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 12:58 PM

Thisstinks,

after revisiting some of your other threads, I have to agree that maybe it's time for you to find a new doctor. Obviously what your current doctor is advising you to do is not working, or you're not listening to them, or there's some other kind of underlying problem somewhere that is hurting your diabetes treatment. I have no idea which of the above it is, and I'm not attempting to speculate on such an issue, but coming here and venting, while a good thing to do as far as moral support is concerned, cannot and should not be used in place of seeking the advice of a doctor.

We want to be able to help you, really we do. But we can only do so much.

thisstinks · #8 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 01:40 PM

300-400 I MEANT OVER THE LAST NINE MONTH SINCE THEY SAID I WAS DIABETIC.. i kept asking them could it be false indications from meds or food...they kept saying no...for 9 months i went through all this bs because they said drink diet soda not regular..

i just had a big meal 1/2 hr ago and im at 134...any other day i would be 400+ with lots of insulin..and i have taken no insulin yet..

i'm sure alot of it has to do with bloodtype..meds ect ect..all that stuff docs should run you through before screwing up your life..

i kept telling these guys i don't have high gluc symptoms..but i tank out if i got below 150..abviously it causes false high reading in me..

Moonglo · #9 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 01:54 PM

Um, but if you've stayed pretty much at 300-400 over the last 9 months, then yes you do have extremely high bg, and you might not be noticing the symptoms if your body has adjusted to that type of bg and thinks that is normal. You're not having false high readings, you're experiencing false hypos when you get closer to normal numbers because you're used to staying high. We all go through it, but most of us grin and bear it until our body adjusts, which usually doesn't take more than a few days. If that long.

shiftzor · #10 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 03:53 PM

High bg will mess with your head, unlike other parts of your body it doesn't have a buffer or backup or storage mechanism. This means that your brain will be hit by every low or high bg effecting the chemical balance in your brain. If you are high for very long periods of time it can cause serious damage. I really suggest that you either take action right now by increasing your insulin doses in a controlled manor or if you do not feel capable to seek medical help. This is not a joke or a stupid game. Not all doctors are bad, yes we all have had bad experiences but just because one is clueless doesn't mean that every doctor is.

I want to help you but right now sitting on a forum on the internet I am powerless, its really up to you now. Good luck.

xMenace · #11 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 04:06 PM

Cause and effect are often very muddy. Repeat your tests at different times of the day. Then repeat again. You need to rule out everything else regardless of what it is you are testing.

sarahspins · #12 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by thisstinks

abviously it causes false high reading in me..

'abviously' the whole diabetes thing is just a scam from big pharma to sell drugs..

Seriously though, if you are seeing readings of 600 from "just" diet soda, SOMETHING doesn't add up here. Sorry to call you on it, but that's just the truth... maybe it's user error with the meter. Maybe it's your OTHER food choices. Maybe you need an eye exam and you think you're buying diet when you're not.

Maybe you're buying "diet" orange crush not realizing it isn't sugar free... there are any number of possibilities.

thisstinks · #13 (**permalink**) 10-24-2009, 12:34 AM

knowing now that big pharma walks all over the fda..who knows what drug interactions cause anything anymore...

but for whatever reason..i am at 134..no insulin..just ate 1/2 ago...

Moonglo · #14 (**permalink**) 10-24-2009, 04:33 AM

What evidence do you have that the fda is being "walked all over?"

I'm glad your bg has gone down, and I hope it stays there or continues to improve. But these slanderous theories you are throwing around as blanket statements without backing them up are not helping anyone, yourself included. Even though there are a few doctors out there who may not be as good as the others for whatever reason, we as diabetics desperately need doctors to be able to take care of ourselves, especially when insulin or medication is involved. To sit there and say you refuse to get any kind of medical help because of a handful of bad experiences is absolutely unreasonable. Find a doctor you like and follow their instructions.

DanG · #15 (**permalink**) 10-24-2009, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonglo

But these slanderous theories you are throwing around as blanket statements...

Slanderous statements are one thing - but when the plebes are dealing with a government - the issue of slander is inappropriate. If this attitude were around 235 years ago, 1776 would have never happened. As a fellow plebe under the control of an ever increasing government size - statements such as this regarding multinational pharma versus an ever increasing governmental control - slander does not apply - these are issues of reality and issues of liberty.

Hence, I say to thisstinks - grab the bull by the horns and do it yourself as much as possible. Obviously the ever over-arching control of the government in personal affairs requires that you obtain a prescription for insulin stuffs - but beyond that, you do the research and you do the personal experimentation, carefully, that will tell you about the function of insulins and other pharma you are ingesting. It is your life and you care more about your life than anyone ever will care. Doctors do not get paid enough to care about your life - their duty is to provide a modicum of care - but it is ultimately up to you to find out what works and to adjust as need be and to consult with people (on forums) and professionals (doctors), etc about what works with and against the various pharma in your life.

You will make it - there are plenty of us here that have dealt with much less information through the years and are still here and in good enough health to tell you that things do work out... sort of... Try living with one shot per day of lente insulin, testing with testape to see if sugars are spilling in your urine - like I did for 20 years, beginning 35 years ago. Hey - I'm still here, all limbs still functional, eyes still very functional, etc. You will make it - take that bull by the horns and wrestle it to submission.