[Joeprep4820]

Originally Posted by DeusXM

From a diabetes perspective, it's fine.

I would say though that from a general health perspective, no, it's not. In much the same way a healthy 'norm' wouldn't eat McDonalds and pizza and Snickers Pie every day, neither would I.

That's my opinion on the matter - I eat a very balanced, very strict yet nutritious diet most days of the week, then let loose a bit on weekends to keep myself from craving some less healthy foods or larger portions during the week.

[ant hill]

First of all, Welcome to DF.
I find a balance between food, Insulin, & Exercise. But as far the food is concerned as this will silence the Food Police. WE CAN EAT JUST ABOUT ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! with insulin.
The art of knowing the amount of Carbohydrates and how long that Carbohydrates will last in your body. Even today, Even my own sister still question, Are you allowed that???

Oh Yes

[washadog]

That is not true. Olive Garden is great food.

[Jules49]

Pasta has never been a problem with me. Cauliflower is the only white thing I eat.

[Joeprep4820]

Originally Posted by washadog

That is not true. Olive Garden is great food.

They make none of their food there. They cook it in industrial sized ovens in Pyongyang, Ho Chi Minh City, Hoboken, and maybe a few other places, freeze it, ship it to a distribution center, it goes to the restaurants, then is reheated by your teenage son's friend who is "a little off" who makes your food when he comes out of the bathroom without washing his hands. Most chain sit down restaurants follow the exact same plan.

[musique913]

If someone likes Olive Garden telling them it's gross isn't going to work for them, even if you don't like it.

To the the poster: I feel the same way that you do a lot! I can't count the amount of times I have felt envy for my friends that could eat everything they wanted and not have it affect them.

My DE told me one thing that made me kind of feel better and it was that just because they can eat what they want, it doesn't mean it isn't hurting them either, in reality. Anyone that eats high carb/high fat with all kinds of extras(too much food), is eventually going to have it catch up with them! lol.

Just think of it as you are treating your body the way it should be.

One suggestion? I know you love Olive Garden, but..

Think about the way it makes you feel when you go there and your friends are eating lots of pasta and bread, and how sick you get if you eat too much of it..

Then pick another type of restaurant you can eat at: Chili's, Outback--something like that..where you can get a nice steak with veggies or fajitas or something that won't spike you and will still allow you to eat yummy stuff.

Hang in there. I promise, it does get better..even if it's hard.

Angela

[DanG]

Originally Posted by Joeprep4820

...ship it to a distribution center, it goes to the restaurants, then is reheated by your teenage son's friend who is "a little off" who makes your food when he comes out of the bathroom without washing his hands. Most chain sit down restaurants follow the exact same plan.

Okay - preach this wide and far - and maybe a few thousand may hear it and do something about it - i.e. do not frequent that type of "joint." Too bad so few hear and do something. I have good memories of places like that, however, the last time I was there is probably 10 years ago. Oh, well - I have not suffered, I don't think.

I'm glad to see a "class of 2008" thinking and yelling in this manner. Maybe if more persons in the "class of 2008 & 2007 & 2006 & 2005" make something of this type of nonsense, the multi-nationals will die, and we might recover some fine local restaurants who prepare local stuff in a responsible manner. I'm fed up with the greedy capitalism that is stabbing the occasional dinner out that I used to enjoy. No dining out by me nor anyone in my household anymore these days, what with the fake fat (olestra), and fake sugars, and msg, and industrialized food preps - this culture entices me no more these days.

[foxl]

I had a friend from FIRST GRADE come into town this weekend. It really emphasized the extent of my inability to eat out ... I got to feeling very, very sorry for myself. Why can't I ahve insulin, just once in a while for a restaurant meal? It's not fair!

Then I wondered, if I got good at using ... how often would I use it? And how much weight would I gain as a result of overuse? In ten years I suspect I will be thanking my endo.

[Joeprep4820]

Originally Posted by foxl

I had a friend from FIRST GRADE come into town this weekend. It really emphasized the extent of my inability to eat out ... I got to feeling very, very sorry for myself. Why can't I ahve insulin, just once in a while for a restaurant meal? It's not fair!

Then I wondered, if I got good at using ... how often would I use it? And how much weight would I gain as a result of overuse? In ten years I suspect I will be thanking my endo.

I'm an insulin user right now, and I have to say that any period of time I did gain weight, it was from overeating, not from using too much insulin use. My diet is nowhere near low carb, and I am not gaining any weight.

[Subby]

Originally Posted by foxl

I had a friend from FIRST GRADE come into town this weekend. It really emphasized the extent of my inability to eat out ... I got to feeling very, very sorry for myself. Why can't I ahve insulin, just once in a while for a restaurant meal? It's not fair!

Then I wondered, if I got good at using ... how often would I use it? And how much weight would I gain as a result of overuse? In ten years I suspect I will be thanking my endo.

Goodness me, if you can work out you will get fat off insulin just thinking about it, how stuffed are we that HAVE to use it!

[Joeprep4820]

Insulin isn't necessarily Krispy Kreme donuts liquefied and put into a bottle; it actually does help you and there are millions (I hope) of fit diabetics using it.

[DannyK]

Originally Posted by Joeprep4820

Insulin isn't necessarily Krispy Kreme donuts liquefied and put into a bottle; it actually does help you and there are millions (I hope) of fit diabetics using it.

WTF? Where did you get your info from?????

[genie86333]

Originally Posted by Joeprep4820

Insulin isn't necessarily Krispy Kreme donuts liquefied and put into a bottle; it actually does help you and there are millions (I hope) of fit diabetics using it.

I think we all know Insulin is a good thing for those who need it, however, I think Linda, was talking more about getting into the mindset of "I can use it if I want a treat" and then being tempted into doing it too often. I can totally understand that because I feel the same way. In addition to having a treat more often, I can see also myself using it as an excuse to have a treat..."oh, my insulin is 27 days old...I should use some of it up before I have to throw it away."

[dbaratta]

Originally Posted by michelby

I'm so fed up that I can't do the same things as my friends because I have this stupid disease, and everyone asks "Are you sure you can have that?" Ugh! So frustrating! I just want to gorge on Snickers bars and pepperoni pizza, just in spite of the disease...but I can't because then I'll feel like garbage in an hour.

I think plenty of us have been here. I know I have. I am like you, if I eat the wrong things I feel real bad physically. Emotionally I don't care. I still am in denial and am hoping this is just a bad dream that I will be waking up from soon.

we are here, come here anytime and vent away!

[ant hill]

I am now beginning to think that Insulin is evil too. No matter what we do as we just get FFF Fat!!!

What's Missing???
Exercise!!!!!!