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Old 11-03-2009, 04:16 PM
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alloxan

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Old 11-03-2009, 05:13 PM
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If you rely on natural news for anything even remotely resembling reliable info, you are up a creek for sure and no paddle in sight....
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:19 PM
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If you rely on natural news for anything even remotely resembling reliable info, you are up a creek for sure and no paddle in sight....
Not really.
Life gets to be more life stuff, not westernized leisure time type life.
We grind our own wheat and make our own bread.
Also, we seldom eat crackers or cookies - we make cookies and pies using the home grind wheat.
A bit more work, but certainly something that is able to be done against the alloxan menace.
Years ago we read the natural news about margarine - butter is much better tasting and is quite healthy for a body that has a brain.
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:35 AM
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Alloxan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There IS controversy as to whether Alloxan produces diabetes in humans.

In the past, though, I used it to induce Diabetes in guinea pigs ...

Interesting stuff.

NB wiki does not mention things such as where it is present in the food chain, nor dosage to effect beta cell death ...
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:49 AM
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Wait, I thought you were blaming your diabetes on thiazides? Now it's alloxan?
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:53 AM
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Wait, I thought you were blaming your diabetes on thiazides? Now it's alloxan?
Guess some people want to blame something. It is better to spend the time and energy figuring out how best to take care of yourself and controlling things, thisstinks.
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Initial A1c Feb 6 09: 12%
Aug 24 A1c (MD office) 5.5%
Jul ... C-pep 1.3, GAD-65 > 30

metformin 1000 mg BID
Simvastatin 80 mg
Ramipril 5 mg
T4 125 mcg
baby aspirin
Vitamin D3, 2000 IU (blood values normal, advised to continue this dose by endo)
CoQ10 100 mg
Eating 70 - 90 g carb per day
Interval training on recumbent cycle
BMI is down to ca. 25.8



According to Joslin's Diabetes, 2005 ed., 5 - 30% of those diagnosed as Type 2 actually have LADA.
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:58 AM
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Guess some people want to blame something. It is better to spend the time and energy figuring out how best to take care of yourself and controlling things, thisstinks.
I blame the sky up above me, if it wasn't so blue that day I would never have gotten this god forsaken disease. Dam you sky . Maybe we should create another law against it .
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02.08.09-01.09.09 SD: 2.4mmol/L or 43mg/dl
02.08.09-01.09.09 SD: 2.2mmol/L or 40mg/dl
02.07.09-01.08.09 SD: 1.8mmol/L or 32mg/dl

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21.05.08: 6.2 (7.9mmol/L or 143mg/dl)
29.11.07: 6.1 (7.7mmol/L or 140mg/dl)
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:30 PM
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Wait, I thought you were blaming your diabetes on thiazides? Now it's alloxan?
has nothing to do with me...just another example of to much trust in the fda
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:43 PM
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has nothing to do with me...just another example of to much trust in the fda
It's not that the FDA is not doing their job, it is the fact that the rules on what can be considered consumable are very lenient. For instance, we are one of the only industrialized countries left that has not made hormone fed cattle illegal. Lobbyists from big beef, big potato (yes, this is a lobby), and the restaurants do as much as they can to keep the FDA's budget low.
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