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Old 07-22-2005, 06:13 AM
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Question Anyone heard of "A Promise Made, A Promise Kept"?

My grandmother, who isn't normally prone to getting sucked into infomercials, caught this one a couple of weeks ago by Dr. James Chappell who claims to have discovered a way to reverse the causes of diabetes. As a former practicing CPA, I'm inherently skeptical, but my grandmother really wants me to keep an open mind about alternatives to a life of injections.

While browsing at the book store last week, I saw at least 4 books claiming to "eliminate diabetes" or "restore the pancreatic function", etc. My first thought is why would my doctor not help me do everything I can to be disease free? What would be his motivation, other than if he received a kickback from the pharmaceutical companies, which I highly doubt (not a conspiracy theorist).

Anyway, the questions I have is, "Has anyone either read this book or spoken with anyone who has?" For anyone who has followed the book, is there any truth to it? I also saw someone else hawking their "system" to cure diabetes, and I immediately dismissed it when I saw he could also cure all my money / relationship / health / career / etc. problems with his other "proven" systems. What a bunch of ****.

Any help is appreciated, thanks. Regards,

Justin
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Old 07-22-2005, 06:56 AM
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Hi Justin,

You are right to be skeptical. Admittedly I have not read this book, but from what I can tell about it...this book is just another in the long line of books that claims that diabetes is just a result of laziness, poor health choices, lack of education, eating the wrong foods, drinking the wrong drinks, etc. Furthermore, the author, Dr. James Chappell also claims (in the same book) to be able to help people cure cancer, parkinson's disease, hepatitis and other diseases. I find these books particularly offensive because they often take the stance (sometimes in a round about way...packaging it as helpful) that the person with the disease (in this case diabetes) brought it on themselves through their own poor life choices etc. These forums are a testament to the fact that diabetes affects people regardless of age, background, education, choices etc.

My sister was diagnosed at age 9 and I can tell you that her background is the same as mine, the food she ate was the same that I ate, she was educated as I was and I do not have diabetes and she does. I have heard from well meaning friends and acquaintances for years that they read somewhere that "diabetes is reversable" or "curable" or that "diabetics don't NEED to take insulin" etc. I know they mean well, but they don't quite understand the disease.

All that said, if you are curious about the book you should read it with a critical, skeptical and thoughtful mind. There is no harm in that. Just get it from the library (I saw he is charging 40 bucks for it).

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Old 07-22-2005, 07:04 AM
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for, maybe 50%, of the Type II cases out there, this book might be of some use. For the rest of us, it's an empty promise, a tease, slanderous falsehope of finding some fountain of youth. Well, I've been to Florida and all I saw there was old people!

All this guy needs now is a wagon, some snake oil, and a circus sideshow to follow behind...
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Old 07-22-2005, 07:10 AM
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Yeah, I was thinking about finding it at the library, if we have it. If not, B&N has a great return policy!
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Old 07-22-2005, 07:28 AM
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I googled him. He's a Chiropractor

To preface this: I have not read the book....... but.........

I agree with Meech (giving the book a huge benefit of a doubt) that there might be something useful in there for Type 2s.

But I also know that there have been snake oil salesmen out there from the beginning of civilization feeding off of people with illnesses and their false hopes. I think this guy is probably just another one of those.

Wouldn't it be nice though, if, one day in the not too distant future, somebody would come up with a wonderpill that would cure this **** disease?

If you do read it, let us know what he has to say
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Old 07-22-2005, 07:40 AM
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Will do; thanks to everyone for feedback.

Del, it sounds like you and I are nearly exact in our situations; I'm 33 and dxd T1 in May.
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Hi Justin,

Yeah, I suppose if the library doesn't have it (and this is a strong possibility) you could just get it at B&N and return it. I wouldn't even go that far...just get yourself a coffee and skim the book in the store....you will get a sense of where the guy is coming from and whether or not it is worth reading. As you said in your first post, there are several books along the same line. To me they are interchangable.

Another word on conspiracy theories....while you may not believe in them I think Dr. James Chappell does.

http://www.coralcalcium.com/coral-calciums-dr-jim.htm

He is a naturopath and does not believe in "Orthodox Western Medicine". It is also interesting to note that his website is actually an online store to promote and sell a product "coral calcium" which he believes is the key to curing any number of ailments.

Blech

I take back my middle of the road stance.....This guy is a schmuck who is adept at selling things on T.V. and the internet and that makes me very suspicious.

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Old 07-22-2005, 07:49 AM
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Lee, that's what I told my grandmother. These guys say that the pharmas don't care about curing the disease; they say that the pharmas only care about treating the symptoms via expensive annuities (drugs, equipment, supplies, etc.) Yet, at the same time, aren't they there to promote their book, which fills their pockets in much the same way as the pharmas?!

Does anyone else see the irony here?!

If they really wanted to help, they'd publish their findings in full on the web and market the **** out of it, knowing full well that they wouldn't get a dime.

Now of course, I realize that this would never happen because someone has to pay for all the research that goes into finding cures and treatments for diseases, but hey, it would be nice!
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Hi Justin,

It's not just the book....this guy is selling "coral calcium" pills as a cure for just about everything on his website. He is the creator and distributor, wholesale and to the public of these miracle pills. It is more than a little ironic. It is just shady. He is running a business like any other. He also has another book for sale on his website, authored by him (of course) about (surprise, surprise) the benifits of "coral calcium".

Too shady if you ask me.

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right, and it used to be this doctor that sold vitamin and mineral supplements made from ancient glacier droppings or something. Snake oil, I tell you!!!!
Although, I've got this sure fire, can't lose chance of a life time! Anyone wanting to keep their youthful appearance while making a fortune through a time tested multi-level marketing business. Are you tired of working for someone else? Do you want to be your own boss. ****, buy one for the dog!

but wait, that's not all, for a limited time only, we're offering you, yes you, this exclusive TV offer. We'll send you twice the amount for twice the price. That's right, I'll mail you this **** made in Taiwan for about 50 cents, for only 5 easy installments of only 29,999,95.99!-plus shipping and handling. That's right, you heard me correctly, but don't delay. this offer is too good to last, call today, operaters are standing by...................
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Old 07-22-2005, 09:31 AM
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but wait, that's not all, for a limited time only, we're offering you, yes you, this exclusive TV offer. We'll send you twice the amount for twice the price. That's right, I'll mail you this **** made in Taiwan for about 50 cents, for only 5 easy installments of only 29,999,95.99!-plus shipping and handling. That's right, you heard me correctly, but don't delay. this offer is too good to last, call today, operaters are standing by...................

I'd like to make a check out today but you left out the cost for shipping and handling. Please let me know so I can get it sent today. Thanks!!
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Old 07-22-2005, 10:20 AM
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But does it come in green?

I saw the coral calcium link you listed, Lee, and while he says that he's not responsible for killing undersea coral, where does he think the abovesea coral came from? What a jerk.
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BTW, I just received an email from another pundit who claims that we're all poisoning ourselves by eating anything other than nuts, grasses, grains, etc. According to him, meat / milk / alcohol / pasta / etc. is poison and we're all going to ****.

Bring it on, I say!

If anyone wants the eBook, as he calls it, you're welcome to an interesting yet unconvincing analysis of why we're all "sick"; I'll be happy to fw you the email.
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BTW, I just received an email from another pundit who claims that we're all poisoning ourselves by eating anything other than nuts, grasses, grains, etc. According to him, meat / milk / alcohol / pasta / etc. is poison and we're all going to ****.

Bring it on, I say!

If anyone wants the eBook, as he calls it, you're welcome to an interesting yet unconvincing analysis of why we're all "sick"; I'll be happy to fw you the email.

This business of going to Heaven or ****, makes me laugh. At the present time, If all the religious fanatics are correct about the rosters of those 2 places; I'll have more friends in **** than anywhere else.
Hey duck, you bring the beer, I've got the sandwiches covered!
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I actually read the book, unlike the other opinions expressed

I have read the book and I will tell you this about it, there is nothing in the book that is not true, at least not that I could find. Basically good eating habits. He NEVER tells anyone to go off their insulin. He tells you to try his methods, herbs, teas and whole food vitamins. Keep track of your blood sugar and see if your blood sugar goes down.
I saw many opinions in this thread written by people that admitted to not reading the book. If you did not read it, you do not know what it says. How can you say it is a bunch of **** if you have no idea what the man is saying.
Like stony above sea coral for instance. Someone said, " I saw the coral calcium link you listed, Lee, and while he says that he's not responsible for killing undersea coral, where does he think the above sea coral came from? What a jerk." The truth is, what is the biggest difference between sea corral vs. above sea corral is that above sea corral is harvested way above sea level and does not destroy corral beds in the sea. It was also growing thousands of years ago so it has no chemicals from the industrial revolution. If you destroy the corral, you are destroying earth.
Now, I am not saying I think that his program is an answer for everyone, but if you follow the book, you will be healthier then if you continue eating hydrogenated foods and of course animal fats and organ meat have been known for a long time to be an unhealthy choice.
I do have one GIANT objection to his products, more then the book. He offers a kit that contains a bunch of whole food vitamins and neutracuticals consisting of 8 products. They only sent 7 and left out one of the ones I most wanted, acai plus which is a berry grown in the top of the rain forests. Good stuff. I have lost weight and gained health since I starting eating these berries in a smoothie each morning and evening. I mix a little soy milk, other fruits, a little honey, and it is great.
While I am not off of insulin, I am taking almost half of what I had been taking before I read and tried the book. The things he says are true. I just think his store is a rip off. At least it has a 30 day return on both the books and his product.
I have read the same things that this dr, Chappell talks about in his book in many of the naturopathic books of this time, and many past times as well. Is it an answer for everyone? Probably not. Will it work for everyone and will it cure diabetes? I don't know, but I do know I am taking less insulin, and less is always better when talking about medications.
I did not write this to offend anyone, I hope you do not take offence at what I have written. If you did, too bad because I did not say anything that was not true. To know if what is said in the book is true or not you would have first read the book and then you need to try it yourself and see for yourself if it works for you. I will say that it will not hurt you and is good for you.
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