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Old 06-24-2003, 01:28 PM
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Dafne

Hi all,

Has anyone heard of DAFNE?

I am from the UK, and this is probalby one of the best methods of treatments here in Europe. Originally developed in Germany, but now widely used in the UK, and other countries of Europe.
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Old 06-24-2003, 04:31 PM
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I haven’t heard of DAFNE until you mentioned it. I don’t know more than what’s on the web. Some trial on DAFNE has been done in Sweden. But after reading what DAFNE is, I realize that DAFNE is the same as, what I have being doing by myself the last couple of years, with and without support from my diabetes team, but with personal success. I think one need a pump or a modern insulin regime to be successful with this, and you definitely need to use a glucose monitor. On the other hand, it maybe because pump or a modern insulin regime, DAFNE was developed. One can hope diabetes teams adjust more to this approach in the future.

DAFNE = dose adjustment for normal eating

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Old 06-25-2003, 09:29 AM
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What exactly is DAFNE, I have never heard of it.
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Old 06-25-2003, 11:10 AM
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DAFNE stands for Dose Adjustment for Normal Eating. It's basically an diabetes management education program that teaches people to adjust insulin dose to fit lifestyle, rather than having to live around a rigid, predetermined insulin regime.

Going under the slogan “Like what you eat, eat what you like,” DAFNE involves five-day courses during which groups of about eight people work closely with diabetes specialist nurses, dieticians and doctors. They are taught how to calculate an insulin dose that will be right for them, on a particular day, given increased knowledge of:

- what their blood glucose levels are and how they react to insulin,
- how much carbohydrate is contained in food they want to eat – an exercise that involves learning how to interpret packaging and food labels, and
- the impact of activity or exercise.

Source: www.aventis.com/future/fut0203/dafne/dafne_1.htm
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Old 06-25-2003, 11:17 AM
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Oh, I see....but if you have already had diabetes counseling and had a diatician, then that is probably not for me, right?
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Old 06-25-2003, 11:35 AM
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Oh, I see....but if you have already had diabetes counseling and had a diatician, then that is probably not for me, right?
actually you should explore ALL options. DAFNE can be modified to help gain better overall control.

being diabetic, learn not to limit yourself, and take what your doctor, CDE, or dietician tells you.. each of us are unique in our management needs, most the professionals are only text book talkers.
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Old 06-25-2003, 11:58 AM
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Well, I must say I agree about the doctors....lol

But really, I have been a diabetic for almost 5 years and I have had three different endo doctors since dxd. I have been to a few different dieticians, and even had multi pump therapy classes. Also, my a1c is in the sixes and my bs has been staying in the 70-120 range with a few above normal. I know that I will need more guidance as time goes on so I may consider dafne. But for now I am just looking for something to help my pump, like the CGMS.
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Old 06-25-2003, 12:58 PM
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DAFNE stands for Dose Adjustment for Normal Eating. It's basically an diabetes management education program that teaches people to adjust insulin dose to fit lifestyle, rather than having to live around a rigid, predetermined insulin regime.

Going under the slogan “Like what you eat, eat what you like,”
The above post is exactly it in a nutshell.

The name / treatment maybe new to the US, but it is certainly taking of in the UK, and europe. In any case from what I have been reading here, over the last few days, some of you seam to have odoped a kind of similar method.

I am a DAFNE graduate, and can not say a bad thing about it. I feel having diabetes, you must alway stive to pursue any new methods, advise, to helping yourself and eveyone; after all we are all in this together, so why not help each other!

I am sortly going to try to achive a greater awareness of DAFNE, and methods like it, so watch this space.

Just to answer the question from "dcoke", no you are wrong about having had advice from others, so DAFNE is not right for me. I have meet people that have been diabetics for more than 20 years, and have made suficant improvments from DAFNE. Yes it may have been hard at first, but dropping bad happbits, that perhaps have become routine, is probably the single most hardist ellement to achive, but also actually purducing the best results.

Yoda
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Old 06-25-2003, 03:39 PM
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um excuse me?.. where was my question? and what do you think i'm wrong about?

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Just to answer the question from "dcoke", no you are wrong about having had advice from others,
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Old 06-26-2003, 12:56 PM
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Apologies dcoke, I meant with reply to MacnReef question, and was backing what you said up.

Yoda
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Old 06-26-2003, 01:00 PM
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Apologies dcoke, I meant with reply to MacnReef question, and was backing what you said up.

Yoda
no prob.. thank you
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