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02-07-2006, 04:30 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH
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| | | Switch to Novolog Well, 24 hours ago I made the switch to Novolog from Humalog in my pump. So far I haven't had to change any basal settings in my pump. Therefore I take it the two are equal in terms of effect. For me I noticed that Novolog acts faster and doesn't cause me to run as high (the peak) two hours after a meal.
Again, this is only a 24 our observation, but to me the two are pretty identical. I think the truth will come in day 3 of using it (since for some reason I seem to run high at 2.5 days of infusion site change.) I am not sure if the high is from the Humalog starting to go bad in the pump from body heat, or from the infusion set needing to be changed.
I'll try to see what happens and give a full and detailed report in a week.
~Kevin Out
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02-07-2006, 04:36 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Texas
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| | | I think I am going to switch to Novolog this week too.. depending on what my doctor says.
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02-07-2006, 04:39 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Canada, ontario
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| | | my sugars are all over the board on humullin...im going to try and change as well | 
02-07-2006, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by psilocybin my sugars are all over the board on humullin...im going to try and change as well | Actually.. umm.. Humalin is NPH, Novolog is Lispro (Rapid).. If you are having problems with Humalin, I suggest you switch to Lantus. 
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02-07-2006, 04:48 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Canada, ontario
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| | | so is humullin r good? or should i switch that to? | 
02-07-2006, 04:55 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Brooklyn, NY
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| | | You are on the dinosaurs of insulins. They're tried and true, but they have quickly been outdated by newer faster and better insulins.
Switch from R to humalog or novolog (R takes a LOT longer to work than the newer -log insulins)
from NPH to Lantus or what's the other one called Levimir?
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02-07-2006, 04:56 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Texas
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| | | If you are still on the old NPH, then that is something you might want to consider changing. By changing that to something like Lantus, you will have much more flexibility and better control. It is up to you though, if you are happy with what you have now (which you have said you aren't), then that is perfectly fine.
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02-07-2006, 05:40 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Miami, Fl
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| | | Jedi, I have alwasy been on Novolog, I think you will like it.
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02-07-2006, 05:55 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH
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| | | I still look back and can't believe it's only been 3 years ago that I went on Humalog. Before that I was on NPH and R and dropping like a rock at least once every three months. No dangerous lows that I haven't been able to take care of since December 2002.
My main reason for switching to Novolog was it's 50% cheaper than Humalog through my insurance. Humalog is a tier 3 drug (highest copay) and Novolog is a tier 2 drug. So I made the switch mainly for that reason, but also because I've heard it's more recommended for pump users.
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●Type 1 diabetic for 25 years (11 months old)
●Animas pumper since December of 2002
~IR 1000 (Dec. 2002-Jan. 2005)
~IR 1200 (Jan. 2005 - ?)
●LifeScan OneTouch UltraSmart Diabetes is an Art, NOT a Science. You must master the control by skills and not by knowledge alone. | 
02-07-2006, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JediSkipdogg I still look back and can't believe it's only been 3 years ago that I went on Humalog. Before that I was on NPH and R and dropping like a rock at least once every three months. No dangerous lows that I haven't been able to take care of since December 2002.
My main reason for switching to Novolog was it's 50% cheaper than Humalog through my insurance. Humalog is a tier 3 drug (highest copay) and Novolog is a tier 2 drug. So I made the switch mainly for that reason, but also because I've heard it's more recommended for pump users. | Until this summer (I think) only Novolog was approved for pumping, though no one cared if Humalog was prescribed or used. Novolog used to brag about that in big bold letters on their website, but they stopped that recently. There's a thread here somewhere about that...
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02-07-2006, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by duck Until this summer (I think) only Novolog was approved for pumping, though no one cared if Humalog was prescribed or used. Novolog used to brag about that in big bold letters on their website, but they stopped that recently. There's a thread here somewhere about that... | I'm trying it in my pump 
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02-07-2006, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JediSkipdogg Well, 24 hours ago I made the switch to Novolog from Humalog in my pump. So far I haven't had to change any basal settings in my pump. Therefore I take it the two are equal in terms of effect. For me I noticed that Novolog acts faster and doesn't cause me to run as high (the peak) two hours after a meal.
Again, this is only a 24 our observation, but to me the two are pretty identical. I think the truth will come in day 3 of using it (since for some reason I seem to run high at 2.5 days of infusion site change.) I am not sure if the high is from the Humalog starting to go bad in the pump from body heat, or from the infusion set needing to be changed.
I'll try to see what happens and give a full and detailed report in a week.
~Kevin Out | I have been on Novolog for about 6 months. I am definetely much more sensitive to it and it is in my opinion faster acting than Humalog. It is a more precise Insulin and I think you will love it. Good luck  | 
02-07-2006, 09:31 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA
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| | | I have only been on Novolog, so I can't offer much of a comparison.
However, I did get a momentary shock today. I did my normal mail order pharmacy re-order of novolog, it showed up today. I opened the box, and there were 12 vials/boxes and for a split second I freaked out.
Apparently Novolog changed their packaging from blue to orange on their boxes. So I was expecting to see a styrofoam container filled with 12 blue boxes, but instead, I see 12 orange boxes.
So after a few minutes of carefully comparing old and new boxes, I was satisfied. Same stuff... new packaging.
But you know that feeling you get for a split second, when you are like Oh #$%@!
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02-08-2006, 03:40 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Originally Posted by koblenz I have only been on Novolog, so I can't offer much of a comparison.
However, I did get a momentary shock today. I did my normal mail order pharmacy re-order of novolog, it showed up today. I opened the box, and there were 12 vials/boxes and for a split second I freaked out.
Apparently Novolog changed their packaging from blue to orange on their boxes. So I was expecting to see a styrofoam container filled with 12 blue boxes, but instead, I see 12 orange boxes.
So after a few minutes of carefully comparing old and new boxes, I was satisfied. Same stuff... new packaging.
But you know that feeling you get for a split second, when you are like Oh #$%@! | Ok, so it wasn't just me. I picked up my first prescription of it about 3 weeks ago, but didn't switch till recently since I had 2 vials of Humalog left (I still have one for backup incase I get a bad reaction to Humalog.) When I picked up the box I thought something looked different on it and then I compared it to a box I had at home. Yup, same stuff, same box, just a different color stripe on it.
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●Blue Ash, Ohio Police Dispatcher
●Type 1 diabetic for 25 years (11 months old)
●Animas pumper since December of 2002
~IR 1000 (Dec. 2002-Jan. 2005)
~IR 1200 (Jan. 2005 - ?)
●LifeScan OneTouch UltraSmart Diabetes is an Art, NOT a Science. You must master the control by skills and not by knowledge alone. | 
02-08-2006, 04:58 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North-Central Indiana
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| | | I have used Humalog from day one with my pump and have asked about changing with my DR but of course he views them as the same. I was on Novolog in the beginning with that awful 70/30 ****. It wasn't until I came to Indiana I was started on Lantus, go figure? A small town hillbilly DR prescribes Lantus while a well known Endo puts me on 70/30. Now I look back and wonder how I ever kept in control with that mix.
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