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Old 09-25-2007, 06:51 AM
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A1C is the best guide

Hello!


Blood work is in. A1C went from 6.1 to 7.5

I was really frustrated and angry yesterday but... the A1C is the best guide to follow and in this case, whatever I'm doing is not working obviously.

It's a bit like getting bad grades in school, don't you think? But I'm not going to feel like a failure. It's just an indicator that I need to work harder... and do my homework!!!

By the way, I feel fine, I hit the gym 3-4 times a week and frankly I thought the doc was joking when he said 7.5. Everything else is plain wonderful, cholesterol, triglycerides, and so on.

So back to the drawing board

I know exactly what the problem is. Work! I don't eat lunch at all. I eat a big breakfast and then we eat supper late, between 7 and 8 pm. I'm hungry as a wolf! I don't eat junk but I eat too much I guess. Then it's bed time. Not good. Not good at all.

My work schedule is about to increase yet again and I must make some changes asap. The problem is between my ears I can't eat while looking after people. My appetite goes out the window. I'll drink water but that's it. Stupid, isn't it?

And it may be that I do need my meds to be increased. Diabetes is a progressive disease, like it or not.

Thanks for listening!
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:58 AM
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Hey Maria Well at least you know what went wrong and how to correct it. I am no pro, but from what I read here it's better to have even like 6 small meals, snacks thru out the day to stay at an even keel.
Skipping meals messes you up. But you know that and are going to fix it now. You will do better next time and 7.5 isn't great it's better than some huge number. Good luck, you can do it.
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:59 AM
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Marie, sorry you didn't get the results you were expecting. I know what you mean about A1Cs....I get really anxious when I get mine drawn, just as I did in school before a big test. Don't let yourself get discouraged! Sounds as if you do most everything you should be doing....it may very well be that your diabetes is progressing and you need a medication adjustment. Hang in there!
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:44 AM
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Hi Marie,

Way to take charge!!! It helps us to see what we need to do along the path. Have you noticed an increase in your daily b/s when you test? Was this the same lab you always use when you have your A1c test? I recently had a higher than normal test come back and it didn't make sense based on my readings so I had a retest (first time they did a finger stick, second time I insisted they take blood from my arm) and it came back as I would expect with what I was seeing from my meter.

So, while it sounds like you know why your numbers are higher it is good to explore all possibilities.

I too have a hard time eating when taking care of others so I can understand.

Good luck and keep us posted.

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Old 09-25-2007, 08:51 AM
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Hello!...Blood work is in. A1C went from 6.1 to 7.5 ...
Don't know if your are interested, but you can check out A1C at home. Mendoza has a review here

Check Your A1C at Home

One gadget is a meter , good for 10 tests at $100,. The other way is to bring in a blood sample to a pharmacy.

HTH

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Old 09-25-2007, 08:54 AM
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marie-sorry you didn't get the a1c you were expecting! it's good you're willing to increase your meds,if needed....trish
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Old 09-25-2007, 09:08 AM
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A1c is a bit over half the story. The rest is how closely packed or widely scattered are your readings. This is usually measured as standard deviation.

A1c is an average. If you have a reading of 50 and one of 250, they average 150, which is not too bad.

But.... the 50 is too low, this is bad

The 250 is high, this is bad too.


There is a lot of evidence that the lower your standard deviation, the better off you are, and the lower your chance of complications, totally independent of what your average is. Many bg meters, or the programs in your computer that you upload your meter to, will tell you your standard deviation (SD). Also many insulin pumps will.

Really, it is intuitive if you think about it. Don't have highs, don't have lows, and have a good average, and you are doing well.

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Old 09-25-2007, 02:04 PM
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Thank you everyone for the feedback!

Same lab. Always. Fasted for 14 hours, as always.

Fasting sugars have always been a problem with me but sometimes I get a really good reading. Lately I haven't.

I hit quite low in the afternoon (of course! Not eating and running around like a headless chicken + going to the gym towards the end of the afternoon) - 5 mmol/L (90 mg/dL) and below. Never under 4.2 mmol/L (75 mg/dL) though!

I don't know about you guys but under 5 mmol/L I don't feel great, I don't feel like a genius, I am impatient...

Then I go home, we eat supper and I just can't stop and whoa! I hit around 12 (216 mg/dL) sometimes. Like you said Lloyd, I shouldn't have lows and highs, that's not good. I should aim for even numbers all the time.

Today : Fasting sugars 8.7 mmol/L (156 mg/dL)
Before lunch (yes! I had lunch today yay!!!!) 7.1 mmol/L (127 mg/dL)
This afternoon when I got home, around 3 pm : 5.5 mmol/L (99 mg/dL) - Felt fine Had a banana.

Now supper, we've got to eat supper earlier. That's another thing I must change.

The only way is down! Meaning my A1C of course!!
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:07 PM
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Marie, I have the same problem with eating late...I don't get home until late in the evening (usually after 8 pm). It makes it hard to eat that time of night. Usually, I just have some soup or scrambled eggs....fills me up and is blood sugar friendly. I try to eat my biggest meal at lunch.

On weekends, when i'm not working late, we have supper around 6 and my fastings are much better the next morning (even if I have some low-carb ice cream for a snack later in the evening). Stupid blood sugars!
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:01 PM
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just looking at the thread i'm he same at the doctors alwaysbetween 5 or 6 when he takesmy blood tests which he says is good along with everything else but he wants to jump in my body if its all right its a constant battle all day trying to get the energy i get up at 5 o'clock to take metformin alon with my flakes back to bed up at 6 i feel a lot better then take another 3 metformin at 12 at lunch 4 years of this now does it ever get better princesslinda i have tried b12 you told me working well thanks sorry to go on
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Supper was on the table at 6 pm tonight. I had the impression of eating in the middle of the afternoon...

I can't wait to see how my fasting sugars will be tomorrow. But Rome wasn't built in a day as the saying goes...

The kids eat lunch at school so supper is our biggest meal of the day.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:23 PM
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Not running high tonight. BG after supper : 5.9 mmol/L (106 mg/dL)

Did 30 mins on my bike. I guess that helped too. Drum roll for tomorrow morning...
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:24 PM
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.... Today : Fasting sugars 8.7 mmol/L (156 mg/dL)
Before lunch (yes! I had lunch today yay!!!!) 7.1 mmol/L (127 mg/dL)
This afternoon when I got home, around 3 pm : 5.5 mmol/L (99 mg/dL) - Felt fine Had a banana. ....
An HBA1c of 7.5% equates to an average blood glucose of 10.6mmol/l. Does this look right to you, based on your meter readings?
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:33 PM
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An HBA1c of 7.5% equates to an average blood glucose of 10.6mmol/l. Does this look right to you, based on your meter readings?
I get low readings in the afternoon... but very high readings before bed time and fasting sugars. The A1C must be right. It can't be wrong now, can it??! I can trust it is right?
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:42 PM
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I have never had a bad HBA1c test result. But it is possible. If you think the test result stacks up and you are aware of very high numbers during the night, dealing with them is going to be the only way to improve your control.
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