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[xMenace]

Testosterone Can Cure/Treat Diabetes in Men; The U.S. Can Save $50 Billion and Men Can Reverse Diabetes (www.usdoctor.com)

Testosterone Can Cure/Treat Diabetes in Men; The U.S. Can Save $50 Billion and Men Can Reverse Diabetes (Edward Lichten, MD The USDOCTOR)

Testosterone: A simple, inexpensive, and bio-identical pharmaceutical drug created 70 years ago will gain universal popularity now that it as been proven to improve, arrest and potentially reverse adult onset diabetes in men. Ten years of experience and scientific research are referenced in Dr. Lichten's 'Textbook of Bio-Identical Hormones' published in 2007. As Dr. Lichten states, "Most of my patients have thrown away their expensive oral medications and reduced their insulin usage by 50%." (Edward Lichten, MD The USDOCTOR)

Detroit, MI (Bluehost/PRWEB ) February 4, 2008 -- How Much is a Leg Worth? Testosterone Can Cure/Treat Diabetes in Men. $15 per month treats diabetic men better than expensive standard meds!

Dr. Lichten has rediscovered the 1939 secret that as little as $15 of injectable testosterone is superior to all other diabetic medications. Where insulin is used in 10% of all diabetics, testosterone is applicable to almost all men, that's 50% of 30 million known American diabetics and 60 million more undiagnosed diabetics! As he reported to the media in 1999, and Ding reiterated from Harvard in the Journal of the American Medical Association on March 15, 2006, all diabetic men have low levels of testosterone. "And since testosterone is the key to energy in the male, it only makes sense that the body's reversal of diabetic breakdown comes from having improved energy from replacing natural testosterone," Lichten explained.

His 'Textbook of Bio-Identical Hormones' published in December 2007 reported that Lichten's hospital-based study and ten additional years of clinical trials proved oral hypoglycemic agents were of no value to two-thirds of his volunteers; furthermore, the inexpensive testosterone injections consistently improved diabetic control (measured as glycogenated hemoglobin; Hemoglobin A1c). Dr. Lichten further notes, "we have known for years that high levels of testosterone in women induce insulin resistance in poly-cystic ovarian disease. We are just learning that too much estrogen and too little testosterone may be even more important in creating the pre-diabetic condition men."

Testosterone does more than lower blood sugar in diabetic men. Not only does it increase the ability to remove glucose (sugar) from the blood stream, it also increases the breakdown of glycogen, stored glucose, into sugar. As a rule, even the most brittle diabetics do not report the dangerously low glucose level, and comas, that makes control difficult.

And testosterone has wondrous effects for men: from improved cardiac performance, improved sexual performance, improved muscle building, positive moods and lowering the risk of diseases such as Alzheimer's to strokes. The problem is that the prescription topical gels do not have the effectiveness of the weekly or monthly injections.

The pharmaceutical industry stands to lose $20 billion dollars in sales when the public and the physicians realize the secret to diabetic and men's health is so inexpensive and so readily available. And for the naysayer, low levels of testosterone are correlated with prostate cancer not high levels say Morgantaler in JAMA 1996.

The next discovery? Amgen's $30-50,000 per patient Epogen for treating the anemia of dialysis can be reduced by 50% when a form of testosterone is added. The potential health care savings are 3 billion dollars. That is what they use in Europe and we should be using here-- testosterone. The $15 medical miracle.

James Sowers, M.D., FACE, FACP, FAHA professor and chairman of endocrinology and metabolism at Wayne State University and now at the University of Missouri-Columbia was the supervising professor on the 1999- #601 Providence Hospital Study.

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[Jan B]

Ok John,

I can't wait to hear some dialogue on this one! I'll be looking into other opinions, etc. etc. Also, some women really need a bit of extra testosterone. I took it for a short while and never got any manly side-effects.

I'll be re-reading this and wondering, also, if this is a big joke!

[xMenace]

I'll be re-reading this and wondering, also, if this is a big joke!

I don't make this stuff up!

But he smells like a duck ... Diabetes

I like this statement NOT: 1. JAMA CONFIRMS ALL DIABETIC MEN are HYPOGONADAL

[susique333]

I can see the head lines now "Testosterone helps women beat diabetes too!"

[Evermont]

Wiki on Testosterone says this:

"...Appropriate testosterone therapy can prevent or reduce the likelihood of osteoporosis, type 2 diabetes, cardio-vascular disease (CVD), obesity, depression and anxiety and the statistical risk of early mortality. Low testosterone also brings with it an increased risk for the development of Alzheimer’s Disease (Pike et al, 2006, Rosario 2004)..."

I did a google search and found this JAMA article which says:

"...Subjects with conditions associated with altered testosterone levels (eg, end-stage renal disease, liver disease, alcoholism, and diabetes) were excluded from the study..."

Not sure what to make of this - but I'm curious to learn more.

[Scratch]

I suppose that if it were to help a person build some more muscle mass and in that way help decrease insulin resistance it might not be total quackery.

[sedita]

30 million known American diabetics and 60 million more undiagnosed diabetics!
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They can't even get basic facts right.

Really there are about 21 million diabetics, of which 15 million have been diagnosed. so about 6 million undiagnosed.

Despite the fact the entire article sounds like ****. Any credibility he may have had, went right out the window with those number

[xMenace]

Wiki on Testosterone says this:

"...Appropriate testosterone therapy can prevent or reduce the likelihood of osteoporosis, type 2 diabetes, cardio-vascular disease (CVD), obesity, depression and anxiety and the statistical risk of early mortality. Low testosterone also brings with it an increased risk for the development of Alzheimer’s Disease (Pike et al, 2006, Rosario 2004)..."

Wiki is authored by reputable people who take into consideration all points of view and assess a multitude of scientific studies. *smirk*

[Evermont]

Wiki is authored by reputable people who take into consideration all points of view and assess a multitude of scientific studies. *smirk*

I know, I'm one of them. If the wiki ain't accurate, we could fix it right?

I'm not saying wiki is a reliable source. Not saying I believe it. I'm skeptical. All I'm saying is that I'm interested in learning more about this. Perhaps there's nothing to this. Maybe there is something to it, but it's overstated. I don't know, but I want to know.

I found this from CBS/WebMD:

"Diabetes And Low Testosterone
The Two Go Hand In Hand, With Possibly Serious Consequences

Dec. 1, 2004

(WebMD) A third of men with type 2 diabetes have low testosterone levels, a new study suggests.

Testosterone helps men reduce body fat and improves the way their bodies handle insulin. So low testosterone levels may have serious consequences for men with diabetes, suggests Sandeep Dhindsa, MD, of State University of New York at Buffalo.

"We are describing a new complication of type 2 diabetes. We are saying that the largest group of people who have [low testosterone] are diabetics," Dhindsa tells WebMD. "It means your pituitary gland, which controls all the other hormones in your body, is not working very well. We are talking about one-third of men with diabetes being at risk of high fat mass, low muscle mass, low bone density, depression, and erectile dysfunction." ...

Advice To Men With Diabetes: Get Testosterone Test

Cunningham advises men with diabetes to get a testosterone test — free testosterone, not total testosterone — if they have any symptoms of sexual dysfunction.

Dhindsa advises men with diabetes not to wait for symptoms, but to get a testosterone test as part of their basic medical care.

"We are screening all diabetic men for low testosterone because the symptoms are very nonspecific," he says. "Anyone can have erectile dysfunction or a mood problem. And most diabetes patients with low testosterone do not have any symptoms. They are surprised to find they have low testosterone."

Testosterone replacement therapy is available. Will it help people with diabetes? That remains to be seen. Dhindsa and colleagues are giving the treatment to men with diabetes and low testosterone, but it's too soon to tell whether it's the right thing to do.

"The data are not sufficient to recommend testosterone replacement for men with diabetes," Cunningham says. "One of the things that could be important is when you treat a man with male sex hormone, it increases lean body mass and causes some decrease in fat mass. There is some issue whether testosterone might improve diabetic men's insulin sensitivity. The studies we have are not definitive."

Sources: Dhindsa, S. The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism, November 2004; vol 89: pp 5462-5468. Sandeep Dhindsa, MD, assistant professor of medicine, State University of New York, Buffalo. Glenn R. Cunningham, MD, professor of molecular and cellular biology and vice chairman for research, Baylor College of Medicine; associate chief of staff, Research Service, VA Medical Center, Houston."

The first guy you cited may well be a quack. Maybe he's just going off half-cocked (pun intended). A lot of quacks rely on a splinter of truth to build their quackery upon. Until you posted this, I had no idea there was any connection between T2 and testosterone. So what's the real story?

[mortis505]

Isnt testosterone released naturally in men during high performance activities?
So by exercising and performing strenuous physical labor, men can reduce their insulin needs and almost entirely go off oral meds?(met, glyp, etc..) Is that what this is saying???

Well Im glad that some Doctor spent all this money to perform this analysis.

[volleyball]

According to the article, you must be low on free testosterone for this to work. I cannot imagine us all low. Testosterone is suppose to be higher in the morning so then would that not negate the dawn effect?
I could see where this could cause marital problems, she may be "bugged" too often now as it is, imagine is you went into overdrive? Reminds me of the viagra joke where the woman thought it wonderful for the first few days and then comes to dread it.

[Evermont]

Another article on this topic:

Low Testosterone in Type 2 Diabetes; A Hidden Epidemic?

Evan David Rosen, M.D., Ph.D. Assistant Professor of Medicine, Harvard Medical School

...Eventually, testosterone measurement is likely to become routine in the treatment of men with diabetes, in the same way that cholesterol levels and blood pressure are now followed as a matter of course. Until then, it’s up to patients to ask, and doctors should be thinking about hypogonadism in all of their male patients with type 2 diabetes.

And another:

Low testosterone common in type 2 diabetic men

Dr. Dheeraj Kapoor from Barnsley Hospital NHS Foundation Trust and UK-based colleagues in the journal Diabetes Care.

Thu Apr 5, 2007 9:38pm BST

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Men with type 2 diabetes, particularly those who are obese, often have low levels of testosterone, making them susceptible to sexual dysfunction, research indicates.

The study, which screened 355 type 2 diabetic men over the age of 30, found that 17 percent had obvious low testosterone or "hypogonadism." A further 25 percent of men had borderline low testosterone levels.

Obesity was a "significant predictor" of low testosterone levels...

The way I read it - 42% of T2 males have something to think about, and 100% should go ahead and find out. The 17% which have symptoms have a clue. It's the further 25% that don't have obvious symptoms that may benefit from screening.

It's easy to diagnose, and easy/inexpensive to fix (assuming you don't have prostate cancer) - fixing low testosterone can solve some real quality of life issues.

If you get treated for low testosterone, you won't have to work nearly as hard to build muscle and lose fat and control BG. Does that sound correct?

[xMenace]

The first guy you cited may well be a quack. Maybe he's just going off half-cocked (pun intended). A lot of quacks rely on a splinter of truth to build their quackery upon. Until you posted this, I had no idea there was any connection between T2 and testosterone. So what's the real story?

I have no real opinion on it yet. I'm glad you've done the searching you have.

[marine021979]

anything would be nice to be able to avoid injections.

[BlueSky]

I had my testosterone level tested a few years ago, and it was normal. I think low testotosterone is more common in men with T2 diabetes. I remember the doctor saying that she isn't keen on testosterone replacement as it increases the risk of prostate cancer.