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05-09-2008, 03:32 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Beijing, China
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| | | Ashamed...but a nice surprise! I feel rather ashamed.
Last night, I had an evening with a colleague, at a local wine bar. We work for the same school but on different campuses, so I dont bump into her much at work. She is a very dear friend, and extremely supportive of me, in every way.
Anyway, we sat down to chat and I ordered a diet coke and she, a glass of white wine. I had told her that I was only having wine as an occaisional treat these days as I am losing weight, blah, blah,blah..in fact, I havent had a glass of wine for over a month, even though I know it isn't a complete no-no.
But...the evening wore on and we got to talking and laughing and I decided to have ONE glass of red wine..why not? 
It arrived, along with a "happy hour" ticket, meaning I could have another one for free...and I did..and then another.  After a while we were both so jolly..and having a great time.
We left around 11.30, and when I got home, I realised that I was a little worse for wear and proceeded to lose my evening meal ( a salad) in the bathroom....
This morning I woke up feeling like death..serves me right...but when I checked my BG, it was the lowest it has EVER been in the mornng....5.0!!
It will be a long time before I can face red wine again..  but at least I know now that having a glass of wine in the evening does lower my morning BG's!!  | 
05-09-2008, 03:37 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: North Texas
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| | | Lulika,
Thank you for the laugh . . . at your expense! Last week I had a little bit of red wine (one glass) and got dizzy and didn't like the feeling at all. I quit drinking any wine or other alcohol, over 4 months ago, and that one little glass knocked me silly . . . yuk!
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05-09-2008, 04:10 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NJ
Posts: 534
| | We are all human and give in sometimes. It is not the end of the world. Yes the alcohol will lower your BS sometimes to much. I enjoy a beer or two on occasion and just adjust for it. I am a type 1 so it is a little different but you know your limits now. 
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05-09-2008, 04:10 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sydney Australia
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Dx Dec 07
Jan 08 A1c 7
April 08 A1C 6.5
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nutrition & exercise
Vitamin B ...July 08
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05-09-2008, 06:16 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,173
| | | I don't get the ashamed part. You lived a little.
I see why it threw you for a loop, little in your system to slow the absorption. With our change in diet comes new way of handling consumption. Think college days when you learned to eat first before drinking, not that you actually practiced that, but at least you knew.
I saw on a show that bariactric surgery patients have to avoid alcohol as it get absorbed right away and they are drunk on 1 shot. I guess the upside is it's cheap. You sober up quicker because the alcohol is processed faster but who want to be the first drunk and even worse, the first sober?
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05-09-2008, 06:30 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Spotsylvania, VA (USA)
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| | Cheers!!!
I myself will be having a drink this evening...
Not sure it's a good thing that the thought is making me smile this early in the day but oh well.  | 
05-09-2008, 06:45 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
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| | Sounds like a fun night... nothing wrong with enjoying yourself
I doubt you were driving but I just saw this and thought it apropos... let your eyes wander around this picture for a while and see what happens... 
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05-09-2008, 06:59 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Landenberg, PA
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| | Wine in the evening lowers by morning bgs but I olny drink ONE!!!
Glad you are recovering,
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05-09-2008, 07:04 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Dublin, Ireland
Posts: 1,568
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Originally Posted by morrisma Wine in the evening lowers by morning bgs but I olny drink ONE!!!
Glad you are recovering, | One what? Glass, Bottle or Barrel
Lulika,
Nothing wrong with letting your hair down, as has been suggested try nibble along the way. I find the great thing is that if I'm have a night out like that, I can eat a little more carbs.
Feel free to repeat my mantra while sipping, I'm only drinking the wine for medicinal reasons, it lowers my BG!
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Diagnosed Type II on 26th November 2007
Metformin 500mg twice daily
Enap 5mg
Initial A1c (14th Dec07): 11.6%
15th Jan'08: 9% 
3rd March'08 6.8% 
6th June'08 6.1% | 
05-09-2008, 07:16 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California
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| | | Now I am a bit confused. If alcohol tends to reduce your blood glucose, what is the downside of having one glass of wine or beer or spirits a couple of nights a week? Or does everyone respond differently? Never have been a heavy drinker, but like to get a light buzz on special occasions.
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05-09-2008, 07:22 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
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| | Possible downside for me is that alcohol gives me the munchies. Drunk plus injecting/pumping insulin is not safe. Possible interaction with other medications.
Otherwise... as with everything... moderation is the key 
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05-09-2008, 08:44 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Northern California
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| | | I can't drink more than one glass of wine. But, I have on occassion had more than I should. Don't worry about it. You learned your lesson about drinking more than one..... You will feel better tommorrow.
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05-09-2008, 09:06 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Earth (I think)
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| | I don't care for wine. The only wine that I'll drink is Beringer's White Zinfandel. Years ago, in the good old days, I'd get a large cheese steak sub from a famous sub shop that made the sub with over 1 pound of steak. They had a mountain of steak cooking on their grill and when you ordered a cheese steak sub, they'd take tongs and just grab the steak in large amounts and jam it onto the sub roll. Then they'd add fried onions, which were also piled in a mountain on the grill, and jam those on top of the steak. When they handed you the whole sub, it weighed at least 2 pounds. It was juicy and greasy and GOOD.
I'd sit down with half of one of these subs and a bottle of Beringer's White Zinfandel, and have a feast! I'd drink the Beringer's right out of the bottle and use my lap to hold the sub.(We referred the sub a slop sub, since it was so juicy, it fell apart and you would get your hands all greasy trying to pick it up and eat it.)
Ah, the good old days.... I wonder what that would do to my BG numbers today...
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05-09-2008, 09:45 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Central Florida
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| | | Good for you!!
Got a little happy.
Got a good time with a good friend.
Got to worship at the porclein throne.
Got the BS down.
There's nothing wrong with a glass of wine or a drink.
My Doc suggests a drink or 2 glasses of wine a day are good for you. Women 1 glass of wine.
I have the "dawn effect" If I have a drink or 2 in the evening I see the difference in the morning.
Also red wine is good for your heart. Really.
Art
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05-09-2008, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Lulika I feel rather ashamed.
She is a very dear friend, and extremely supportive of me, in every way.
... even though I know it isn't a complete no-no.
But...the evening wore on and we got to talking and laughing and I decided to have ONE glass of red wine..why not?
This morning I woke up feeling like death..serves me right... | I am on a personal rampage against shame
I spent about 30 years being ashamed of being diabetic (it was called being "private" when I was first diagnosed 40 years ago). Didn't talk about it, did everything in the bathrooms, etc. etc. Friends, roommates, no one knew. And that meant dealing with the occasional consequence ... and excess ... alone.
So, Lulika, from one recovering ashamed diabetic to (hopefully) another: Don't know if you're very dear friend was with you when you lost, er, everything, but I"m glad you felt comfortable coming here and telling us about it. Ten years ago, I wouldn't've. Even now, if you all were here, I'd have a problem talking, in person, about some things I've written about here.
So here's to banning shame! from the diabetics' lexicon!
Hope you're feeling better. And now that you've gotten some tips, you know better how to deal with the occasional dip into alcohol, I hope you realize that you probably don't have to deprive yourself if you feel like a drink.
Janke:
The problem is that the appearance of drunkness can often camouflage a very low BG, so both the diabetic and those around them don't treat the low BG, since everyone thinks they just need to sleep it off. It's up to the diabetic to maintain enough conscientiousness (and consciousness!) to test and test again and monitor enough to keep BGs in proper range over a long period of time, since alcohol can affect BGs for a long time. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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