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Old 06-10-2008, 06:53 AM
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Will using an antibacterial gel before a finger prick cause bad/good results? My son uses an alcohol pad to clean his fingers first. Bad or good idea?
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Old 06-10-2008, 06:58 AM
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I understand that alcohol can affect your reading. If you do feel a need to use it, at least wait to make sure it has all evaporated before you test.
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Old 06-10-2008, 06:58 AM
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I solve the bathroom dilema by carrying the waterless hand sanitizer in my purse. After I leave the bathroom, I just use it.

I'm another who only changes lancets and pen needles when they hurt. I figure its my blood and germs and i'm not sharing them with anyone else. I've had no problems with it. I don't "lick" my finger after sticking....I hate the taste of blood, but I know many who do, again with no problems.
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Old 06-10-2008, 06:59 AM
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you gotta be kidding...never use your mouth to "clean" anything ...sorry to be so dramatic but your mouth is the dirtiest part of your body ...your mouth has more germs and such than any other area before or after brushing ...don't believe me ask your dr....
Agree. Leave the mouth out of it. The mouth is for other things, right Steve?

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plus why would anyone be in such a pinch to take their BS reading that you couldn't change your lancet...no situation dictates taking your BS when not prepared to do so ...

Because your getting into a car to drive home?

If I only tested when I changed my lancet, I might get a day's worth a year I just changed my multi-clix this weekend. I got it Septemberish.
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Old 06-10-2008, 07:04 AM
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How about cleaning the lancet tip with an alcohol pad after use? It would disinfect it and keep it clean for the next use. I started out changing the lancet 4x a day, but I now use the same one for multiple times.
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Old 06-10-2008, 07:07 AM
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How about cleaning the lancet tip with an alcohol pad after use? It would disinfect it and keep it clean for the next use. I started out changing the lancet 4x a day, but I now use the same one for multiple times.
I don't believe that this is necessary and may actually blunt the lancet more by pulling over on the point.

As you are just starting out and lancets are not really expensive why not just change them each time for now until you are more confident about the whole deal? Wash your hands in warm soapy water to keep them clean and also to help bring the blood to the surface.. make it easier on yourself until you get used to it

The main reason I don't change my lancet so often is just convenience: it's less hassle and less to carry around,... I don't have to worry about finding a sharps' box or safely take the used ones home for disposal.
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Old 06-10-2008, 07:12 AM
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I don't believe that this is necessary and may actually blunt the lancet more by pulling over on the point.

As you are just starting out and lancets are not really expensive why not just change them each time for now until you are more confident about the whole deal? Wash your hands in warm soapy water to keep them clean and also to help bring the blood to the surface.. make it easier on yourself until you get used to it

The main reason I don't change my lancet so often is just convenience: it's less hassle and less to carry around,... I don't have to worry about finding a sharps' box or safely take the used ones home for disposal.
You've got a good point there with not using an alcohol pad. It didn't occur to me that it would dull the tip.
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Benicar HCTZ 20mg/12.5mg 1x daily
B Complex 1x daily
Vitamin D 400 IU 1x daily
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Old 06-10-2008, 07:21 AM
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As I mentioned above: in hospital it makes sense to be ultra-sensitive to hygiene and this message tends to be passed on to us by our Doctor and nurses but the big risk in hospital is "other peoples bugs". Yes our own microbes can cause infections if we get a cut, but your finger stick should not be deep enough for that. These are your own personal bugs and you live with them around you all the time... I hope no-one is rushing home to shower and scrub their skin raw, but it is just a fact of life that we are colonised by microbes.

As for the mouth discussion: it may be true that a human mouth has more nasty microbes than a dog's mouth, BUT... yet again, these are your OWN microbes that you live with all the time... in the right place, they are harmless, and I have no issue with using my mouth to clean my finger after the finger stick... someone else's mouth is another matter altogether
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Old 06-10-2008, 08:25 AM
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You guys are hilarious. I am always covered with small cuts and things and don't worry about infection from things in my mouth. In fact, the primary reason I choose my mouth is that it is glucose neutral and my own saliva will generally reflect the same glucose concentration as my blood. When I first started lancing I would frequently walk around leaving little blood stains on things. Now, that I consider not only unhygenic, but a little rude, particularly if I am visiting someone elses abode. My mouth is always available for this situation.

On the subject of alcohol, you need to be careful, it will affect the reading. Just to prove this to your self, wash your finger with alcohol, leaving it wet, lance yourself and take a reading. Now wipe the same finger, blow on it and take another reading. My bet is that that the reading from the wet alcohol is substantially lower. Google the subject, you will find many recommendations cautioning to make sure you are absolutely dry after alcohol cleaning. You also need to take care with soaps, some soaps contain substantial glucose and you need to completely wash it away or you contaminate the reading.

I just licked my finger again and I feel just fine.
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Old 06-10-2008, 08:28 AM
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I just licked my finger again and I feel just fine.
There's nothing living dangerously eh
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