[princesslinda]

I'm curious...do you guys buy brown or white eggs? Are there any benefits one over the other? Do they taste any different? ...believe it or not, i'm not a "city girl," but i've never had really fresh eggs.

[PERKDOUG]

Fgummett:
Sorry I must stand my ground. Read the posts. There are many that point to the invalid advice of their dietitians. Their advice does not get the job done in all to many cases. The diabetic figures it out by trial and error with the bg meter. But maybe you are right. Sometimes the truth is harsh.

[princesslinda]

I think a lot of the dieticians feel that many of us T2s are not going to be willing to stick to such a strict low carb diet (and most of the T2s I know personally prove this theory to be true). I was also given the "3-4 servings of carbs/meal and 2 1 carb serving snacks" when first diagnosed. When my #s just didn't fall in line, I decided to try "South Beach Diet" which I had done in the past for weight loss...and lo and behold, my numbers changed significantly. I took metformin 500 mg twice daily until starting Byetta, and the metformin at that dose wouldn't give me the blood sugars I needed without eating low carb.

Debbie, maybe next week for your b/fast, you could leave off the english muffin and berries and see if your #s go under 140 2 hrs after breakfast....after that, you could try adding back berries with no english muffin....then muffin with no berries.

Since my morning #s are usually higher than the 110 or less goal I was given, I eat VERY low carb for bfast and it seems to set the tone for the rest of the day, as there is little or no 2 hr post meal elevation.

[fgummett]

Originally Posted by princesslinda

I'm curious...do you guys buy brown or white eggs? Are there any benefits one over the other? Do they taste any different? ...believe it or not, i'm not a "city girl," but i've never had really fresh eggs.

Pretty sure the the colour of the egg makes little/no difference... Arauncanas lay blue eggs. Fresh eggs are a world of difference from store bought... the whites are white and the yolks is almost orange and stays high when you crack them... instead of spreading out. A home flock allows you some control over what they eat... depends if you let them free range or keep in a pen... and no need to use antibiotics or clip their beaks, etc...

Originally Posted by PERKDOUG

Sorry I must stand my ground. Read the posts. There are many that point to the invalid advice of their dietitians. Their advice does not get the job done in all to many cases. The diabetic figures it out by trial and error with the bg meter. But maybe you are right. Sometimes the truth is harsh.

I agree that what many dietitians advise is not the latest thinking as we discuss it here on DF, but I don't think that makes it invalid advice. They are a useful resource for teaching how to read labels and count carbs. We also slam many Doctors' advice on here but I don't think that as a generalisation, Doctors advice is invalid.

[Alice]

I'm just curious...as it's been years since I attended a basically out-of-date education class. (Filled with more spouses of diabetics than actual diabetics to my dismay)...

How did they approach the subject of "sugar". I hope it was not labeled with a childlike "no no" or "bad"...but instead discussed as a carb. It does sound like you discussed carb choices, but I find the subject of sugar seems to be either avoided from a "morality" issue...or just bounced over.

Sounds like you had an excellent class. You are lucky.

[Debbie Sue]

Great question on sugar! She did address sugar in the diet. She follows what she is taught by the ADA guidelines and she said sugar doesn't need to be a no-no, just be careful how much you allow. Only an individual can judge how much they can tolerate. She never told us to avoid sugar. Since I'm really new at this, I have stopped all my bad eating habits and am learning new good habits. Sugar, bad fats and bad carbs are off my food list. I am replacing with whole grains, fruits, veggies and lean meats.

[Alice]

That's good news on the "sugar" discussion. I think people need to be empowered on making the quantity/carb choices based on fact...not good/bad.

[volleyball]

Debbie,
Do you know that Thomases makes a whole gain wheat bagel that may help.
Since you are new to this and making so many changes that your 125 and 140 don't sound bad to me. Your body doesn't respond overnight.
As for the dietitians, There are some helpful one and some not. I know a few that would never eat the way they recommend to their clients.
There are many schools of thought here because we are a varied group and have different iterations of the disease.
The very low carb is a good boost for a lot of people, when you get normalized, adding in the whole grain carbs is a good idea in my opinion.
Instead of trying to lose a lot of BS and weight at once, plan for a steady drop in both. The act of reducing weight is the secret to a lower BS number more than the weight loss.

As to the egg thing, I agree the shell color has nothing to do with the insides. And I thought the color inside had a lot to do with the feed being used

[Debbie Sue]

Thanks for the heads on the Thomas products. They don't sell them here so it would have to be mail order. I like what I have read in the ingredients and nutrition labels. I'm going to go search the Whole Foods stores here and see what they have too.

I am making my meals as balanced nutritionally as possible. I am still losing weight, but it's more gradual now. My bs numbers are still coming down and there was an overnight difference after upping the mg of the Metformin. I just look at it as an individual thing and not the norm for everyone who takes this drug. I call in my week's worth of #'s in a couple of days and then get an evaluation. I hope they leave the Metformin at the dosage it is because I feel it's working fine along with the healthier eating and the exercise.