[baltimorebill]

Thanks for all the information: useful, interesting, and entertaining!

Be well!

[cyberus]

Originally Posted by Tiger Lily

i eat 'lower or managed' carbs, for me that's about 60 grams a day

i count the 'net carbs' after fibre content

here is a partial list of the 'free veggies' that have a high water content and high fibre content

* asparagus
* bean sprouts
* beet greens
* broccoli
* Brussels sprouts
* cabbage
* cauliflower
* celery
* cucumber
* green peppers
* lettuce
* marrow
* mushrooms
* onions (1/2 cup)
* orange peppers
* parsley
* radishes
* red peppers
* rhubarb
* spinach
* Swiss chard
* tomato (only 1)
* yellow or green beans
* zucchini

Turnip greens (3g net per CAN)
Mustard greens (6g net per CAN)
Okra 1g net per serving (3g net per half bag frozen)
Collard greens (6g net per CAN)

[owlyn]

I don't know where you are located, but see if you can get some Kellogg's All Bran Extra. the "Extra" variety has a whopping 17 grams of fiber per 1 ounce (30 gram) serving, and is sweetened with Splenda so it is very low carb (7 grams, IIRC). I have it each night with a 6 ounce sugar-free fruit yogurt (22 g carbs, making a total of less than 30 grams). Most of the "low fat" or "fat free" yogurts are low in carbs- read the label. The snack is really good. It almost tastes like pie. Does the trick nicely.

And don't forget our friends Manny and Zorba Tol

[soso]

Darn it!
So it's just me then.......I have long wondered why some of the things on your list were on a free list.... some of them would be ok for me in small doses, but cabbage and brussels.. eek.... I have to have 2-3 units for a decent (me sized..hee hee)portion... how unfair is that?
I once asked my nana to cook a whole giant panful just for me, which caused all kinds of merriment amongst the adults....

[cyberus]

Originally Posted by owlyn

I don't know where you are located, but see if you can get some Kellogg's All Bran Extra. the "Extra" variety has a whopping 17 grams of fiber per 1 ounce (30 gram) serving, and is sweetened with Splenda so it is very low carb (7 grams, IIRC). I have it each night with a 6 ounce sugar-free fruit yogurt (22 g carbs, making a total of less than 30 grams). Most of the "low fat" or "fat free" yogurts are low in carbs- read the label. The snack is really good. It almost tastes like pie. Does the trick nicely.

And don't forget our friends Manny and Zorba Tol

I'll hafta check that out .. I could add it to my sf pudding (made with unsweetened soymilk 8g carb 2g fiber per 1/2 cup)

[volleyball]

I read this with a bit of amusement. But it is an important subject. While what happens to me , I can feel, my dog is another issue. I have to pick up after her. Since she eats what I eat or the part I don't eat, she is kind of like my lab mouse. And the food does make a difference. Dogs have to pass a certain volume or else their scent glands don't get expressed and can get infected. We've gone through a couple of boughts. So I make sure that she gets fed properly a couple of times a week. Like I may have lots of meat for a few days but last night I had a whole head of cauliflour steamed with some cheese sauce. low carb, a change of pace and plenty of volume.
The Inuit thing got me wondering, maybe passing some tough ones once a week would be preferable to having to flash your backside every day and where would you find leaves? Would you use icicles?

[fgummett]

Originally Posted by volleyball

The Inuit thing got me wondering, maybe passing some tough ones once a week would be preferable to having to flash your backside every day and where would you find leaves? Would you use icicles?

Caribou moss... also useful as a natural diaper and for starting fires

[georgepds]

Originally Posted by BrianSCohen

I've come to believe that the whole fiber thing may just be hogwash. ...

Perhaps for you, but not for me. Since I started the 24+ grams of fiber for breakfast routine, regular is my by word.

FWIIW, if you've been troubled by hemroids, when you get this regular , they disappear. Perhaps that's a bit too much info

--G

[fgummett]

No doubts that eating lots of fibre will help you stay regular but as for all the other claimed health benefits, I have my doubts.

[Tiger Lily]

Originally Posted by soso

Darn it!
So it's just me then.......I have long wondered why some of the things on your list were on a free list.... some of them would be ok for me in small doses, but cabbage and brussels.. eek.... I have to have 2-3 units for a decent (me sized..hee hee)portion... how unfair is that?
I once asked my nana to cook a whole giant panful just for me, which caused all kinds of merriment amongst the adults....

soso, don't worry food allergies change every 7 years

i just found list from my allegist in 1981

essentially he said 'you are allgeric to food'
3 pages, 3 colums wide, both sides

i found that i can eat home grown tomatoes



i'd point my finger at the pesticide they used, not the tomatoes............... mind you, i have a LOT of difficulty with the store bought 'organic Tomatoes' or the 'field tomatoes'

go figure
! !@ ! ! ! !

[notme]

Originally Posted by volleyball

Since she eats what I eat or the part I don't eat, she is kind of like my lab mouse.

Probably not a good comparison. Dogs are probably a bad indicator for what is good for a human to eat.

There is a huge differences between the way a dog is "constructed", compared to the way a human is. If something is right for you or for
another human, it might actually be very, very wrong for dog… and if
something is not good for you, it could be a very healthy thing for the dog!

[soso]

Originally Posted by Tiger Lily

soso, don't worry food allergies change every 7 years

i just found list from my allegist in 1981

essentially he said 'you are allgeric to food'
3 pages, 3 colums wide, both sides

i found that i can eat home grown tomatoes



i'd point my finger at the pesticide they used, not the tomatoes............... mind you, i have a LOT of difficulty with the store bought 'organic Tomatoes' or the 'field tomatoes'

go figure
! !@ ! ! ! !

Hmm... Perhaps you need the pesticides...lol....
seriously, I have my suspicions about a lot of so called organic produce...

btw....ate a load of brussels tonight and so far so good.....

[volleyball]

Nancy, my dog eats what I eat means she get bits, she always wants the last bite, or as in meat, she gets the fatty ends. Her poop comes out in a similar fashion to mine. Since I flush mine and pick up hers, I end up examining it through no choice of my own. My dog sense what is good for her or not, she has her acceptable vegetables and unacceptable ones. She will even turn down meat if it is too old.

[volleyball]

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[Hammer]

Originally Posted by soso

Darn it!
So it's just me then.......I have long wondered why some of the things on your list were on a free list.... some of them would be ok for me in small doses, but cabbage and brussels.. eek.... I have to have 2-3 units for a decent (me sized..hee hee)portion... how unfair is that?
I once asked my nana to cook a whole giant panful just for me, which caused all kinds of merriment amongst the adults....

For those of you who don't like Brussell Sprouts, you should try my recipe. I place some brussell sprouts in a pot and then fill it up with water.....I mean fill it close to the top. Now I cook the brussell sprouts until they are soft. To find out when they are soft, I usually taste one. Once they are all soft, I remove them from the stove and drain out the water. Once the water is drained, I then add a small amount of corn oil like Mazola, although light olive oil seems to work also. Once I've added a small amount of corn oil (don't add so much oil so that the sprouts float), I then add some garlic salt. Once I've added the garlic salt, I then cover the pot and shake. You might want to keep the garlic salt on hand to sprinkle on the sprouts after you've finished.

This corn oil and garlic salt can be used for most green vegetables. It's the Italian way to season vegetables.