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01-06-2009, 01:21 PM
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| | | Blood sugar drops when I eat. When I wake up in the mornings my blood sugar is usually between 220-280. It drops to about 140 after my first meal and by bedtime it goes down to around 80-90.
Then it starts all over again.
My doctors don't believe me even after I show them my monitor reads. They say that is "too strange to be true" and I've seen about a dozen specialists now.
I do not take any medications for diabetes, but my liver enzymes are high. I was diagnosed diabetic type II about 6 months ago, but I doubt this is really true. I'm only 24 and a very active athlete.
Has anyone heard of this before???? Please help. | 
01-06-2009, 01:28 PM
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| | Hey Kelley,
My BS is high every morning, (130-150) runs low and level all night until about 5am and then keeps raising until I eat. If I don't eat until 11am or so, I could be at 190+. If I eat at 7am (still only about 8 carbs) I can be down to around 120-130 2 hours after breakfast. Unfortunately, this is fairly common, it's called Dawn Phenomenon. Your liver dumps glucose to cover what it thinks your body will need when you get up for the day. There is a lot of information on this site, as well as others. One with a definition is The 'dawn phenomenon': What causes it? - MayoClinic.com
From your readings, not much chance you are not diabetic, but you could be type 1 or 1.5. There are lots of threads on these topics too. Good Luck!
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01-06-2009, 01:36 PM
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| | | Doesn't sound like type 2.
I'm an athlete too. And my fasting bgls are generally the higher readings. That's only changed since they gave me diamicron in sufficient doses. My meds are all based around controlling my over night because I'm so active during the day. If you're burning off all the carbs, you're less likely to have high readings with food.
They diagnosed me initially as type 2, but now they're thinking lada or something like that. Have you had a c-peptide test?
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01-06-2009, 01:38 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Brunswick Canada, eh
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| | | It's plausible to me. Many of us wake up high in the mornings due to the "dawn phenomenon." Many type 2's also find that eating food triggers an insulin release. For high blood sugars, it's a known remedy to eat some carbs. It doesn't work for all. An active pancreas is necessary. | 
01-06-2009, 02:10 PM
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01-07-2009, 01:00 AM
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| | | according to a nurse at my clinic this type of thing is common in both types of diabetes if caught really early, the pancreas behaves like a failing car part pretty much. it responds to the trigger of food in the digestive tract or whatever to release insulin to deal with it, but sits idle the rest of the time, the slight rises in BG overnight somehow not being enough of a stimulus. this is a very over-simplified picture but does kind of make sense if you think about it!
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01-07-2009, 04:36 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Melbourne Australia
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| | I'm not saying you're not diabetic (I don't know), but it's worth noting that hypoglycemia can occur in non diabetics (rarely, but it's possible). I suggest you go to this page and read the whole lot to consider some posibilities. Hypoglycemia
Google is your friend (taken with a HUGE pinch of salt of course)... and doctors should be too (I'm surprised all those specialists hadn't heard about reactive hypoglycemia)
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01-07-2009, 06:52 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: London UK
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Originally Posted by Subby I'm not saying you're not diabetic (I don't know), but it's worth noting that hypoglycemia can occur in non diabetics (rarely, but it's possible). I suggest you go to this page and read the whole lot to consider some posibilities. Hypoglycemia
Google is your friend (taken with a HUGE pinch of salt of course)... and doctors should be too (I'm surprised all those specialists hadn't heard about reactive hypoglycemia) | to be fair to the specialists im sure most of them have heard of reactive hypoglycaemia, they just never mention it to patients due to their general assumption that along with high blood sugars people with diabetes are also rendered braindead on diagnosis.....
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01-15-2009, 12:36 PM
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| | | Thank you Thank you all for your ideas and thoughts.
In general, my body is EXTREMELY sensitive to pretty much everything. I have dozens of documented and tested allergies and have to be very careful of my environment. I've been tested for about 25 different auto-immune diseases and have a myriad of other symptoms and ailments. So far, I've been diagnosed or had positive tests for: (I take it with a grain of salt...and sorry I can't spell them all)
Fibromyalgia
Diabetes type II
Amenorea
Salt Sensitivity
Hypothyroidism
Celiacs
High BP
PMDD
Depression (If you had that much wrong with you, you'd probably be depressed too, lol)
Shin Splints (I know, I'm an athlete)
Abdominal Tendonitis
Enlarged Liver
High liver enzymes
Migranes
Allergies (environmental and food)
Psoriasis
Chronic, systemic, antibotic-resistant Strep throat (3 years positive for it)
And have had viruses: Hep. B, Shingles, Pithoriasis Rosea, Epsteine Barr, West Nile (it's not as bad as the papers made it out to be) and Mono
So I'm 24, I live a low carb, gluten free life and do the best I can. Have been on several medications and just haven't found the right ones yet. Still hoping I can. | 
01-16-2009, 06:59 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Northern VA
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| | | I have heard that some medications, like steroids, can actually cause diabetes (or "flip the switch," so to speak, if you have a genetic tendancy toward diabetes). Maybe you have taken something in the past for one of your other ailments that has pissed off your body!
Oh, and I have had pityriasis rosea, too! That's one of thiose things that just makes you step back and ask why. And I'm 26, diagnosed with diabetes at 25.
__________________ *Jill* Diagnosed Type 2 May 21, 2008, A1C 9.5, Fasting Glucose 214 Had DS surgery to resolve diabetes on March 27, 2009. | 
01-17-2009, 07:19 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Utah
Posts: 70
| | | There are other types of diabetes besides type 1 and 2... MODY (maturity onset diabetes of the young). That is likey what my family has as none of us fit the type 2 profile, don't have type 1 but we act like a type 2 for the most part. what are your fasting glucose by laboratory draw? What is your A1C? | 
01-18-2009, 10:03 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 620
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Originally Posted by kelley812812 Thank you all for your ideas and thoughts.
In general, my body is EXTREMELY sensitive to pretty much everything. I have dozens of documented and tested allergies and have to be very careful of my environment. I've been tested for about 25 different auto-immune diseases and have a myriad of other symptoms and ailments. So far, I've been diagnosed or had positive tests for: (I take it with a grain of salt...and sorry I can't spell them all)
Fibromyalgia
Diabetes type II
Amenorea
Salt Sensitivity
Hypothyroidism
Celiacs
High BP
PMDD
Depression (If you had that much wrong with you, you'd probably be depressed too, lol)
Shin Splints (I know, I'm an athlete)
Abdominal Tendonitis
Enlarged Liver
High liver enzymes
Migranes
Allergies (environmental and food)
Psoriasis
Chronic, systemic, antibotic-resistant Strep throat (3 years positive for it)
And have had viruses: Hep. B, Shingles, Pithoriasis Rosea, Epsteine Barr, West Nile (it's not as bad as the papers made it out to be) and Mono
So I'm 24, I live a low carb, gluten free life and do the best I can. Have been on several medications and just haven't found the right ones yet. Still hoping I can. | Perhaps you don't have Type 2 diabetes, but Type 1.5 (or LADA). Another DF member suggested this possibility to me in my case, and am now waiting for further tests. You should have your c-peptide level checked. |  | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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