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07-15-2009, 08:41 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Georgia
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| | | Tried Something Different This Morning Got up about 7am and tested. FBG was 118- which is a little higher than what it usually is.
Did my usual 2 mile walk/jog.
Afterwards, I took my meds (glyburide-metformin 2.5-500mg) and had a breakfast of a 2-egg omelet with cheese and ham and a bowl of Cheerios cereal (1 1/2 cups) with Splenda and milk. According to the labels, this should have been no more than 40 to 50 carbs.
2 hours post meal, I'm at 141.
I'll test again before lunch.
__________________ Diagnosed 09/2003
BG at diag 324
A1c at diag 9.7
Most recent A1c 6.0 (08/09)
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07-15-2009, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by deercotn Got up about 7am and tested. FBG was 118- which is a little higher than what it usually is.
Did my usual 2 mile walk/jog.
Afterwards, I took my meds (glyburide-metformin 2.5-500mg) and had a breakfast of a 2-egg omelet with cheese and ham and a bowl of Cheerios cereal (1 1/2 cups) with Splenda and milk. According to the labels, this should have been no more than 40 to 50 carbs.
2 hours post meal, I'm at 141.
I'll test again before lunch. | I havn't been keeping up with your goal and plan, but i cannot under any circumstance eat cereal or milk and be under 140 2 hrs PP.
cereal kills me.
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07-15-2009, 08:51 AM
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| | | Tomorrow try it with no cereal. Test just before you eat, then 2 hrs after your first bite. You may be surprised at the reading. I find if I eat eggs for b/fast, no toast, no cereal, just eggs and meat, the 2 hr reading is often even lower than the pre-meal.
I was never much of a cereal fan, so doing without is not a problem for me.
__________________ T2, diagnosed 8/31/06.
Metformin 500 mg twice daily
HCTZ 12.5 mg every other day for BP
Enalapril 20 mg 1 daily (ace-inhibitor)
Lower carb dieter (approx. 75 total carbs/day, more on weekends), taking chromium, multivitamin and fish oil tablets Initial A1C 8/06: 9.6
11/06: 6.2.
03/07: 5.3
06/07: 5.4
10/07: 5.3
05/08: 6.2 (after dealing with shingles & bronchiti)
2/09: 5.5 | 
07-15-2009, 09:11 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Georgia
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Originally Posted by princesslinda Tomorrow try it with no cereal. Test just before you eat, then 2 hrs after your first bite. You may be surprised at the reading. I find if I eat eggs for b/fast, no toast, no cereal, just eggs and meat, the 2 hr reading is often even lower than the pre-meal.
I was never much of a cereal fan, so doing without is not a problem for me. | I'll try it. Thanks.
I'm also going to see if I can find a cereal that's lower in carbs. And what about the milk? Seems all milk, even skim milk, is about 12g carbs? Is whole milk actually less likely to cause a spike b/c of the higher fat content?
__________________ Diagnosed 09/2003
BG at diag 324
A1c at diag 9.7
Most recent A1c 6.0 (08/09)
Glyburide-Metformin 2.5-500mg 3x daily
Enalapril
Norvasc
Crestor
Fish Oil 1000 mg 2x daily
Levitra .... | 
07-15-2009, 09:14 AM
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| | | There's a milk you might want to try called "Hood Calorie Countdown," that comes in regular and chocolate. The regular 2% has 90 calories and 3 carbs per cup serving. I really enjoy the chocolate flavor...it's 90 calories and 5 carbs per cup serving. I've not tried the regular. It's available at our Walmart SuperCenters.
__________________ T2, diagnosed 8/31/06.
Metformin 500 mg twice daily
HCTZ 12.5 mg every other day for BP
Enalapril 20 mg 1 daily (ace-inhibitor)
Lower carb dieter (approx. 75 total carbs/day, more on weekends), taking chromium, multivitamin and fish oil tablets Initial A1C 8/06: 9.6
11/06: 6.2.
03/07: 5.3
06/07: 5.4
10/07: 5.3
05/08: 6.2 (after dealing with shingles & bronchiti)
2/09: 5.5 | 
07-15-2009, 09:43 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Georgia
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Originally Posted by princesslinda There's a milk you might want to try called "Hood Calorie Countdown," that comes in regular and chocolate. The regular 2% has 90 calories and 3 carbs per cup serving. I really enjoy the chocolate flavor...it's 90 calories and 5 carbs per cup serving. I've not tried the regular. It's available at our Walmart SuperCenters. | Thanks Linda. I'll look for it the next time I'm at Wally World. I just have to have my cereal in the morning.
I liked having the eggs this morning......... but, I can't do that all the time. My cholesterol would be through the roof. It's already way too high. 
__________________ Diagnosed 09/2003
BG at diag 324
A1c at diag 9.7
Most recent A1c 6.0 (08/09)
Glyburide-Metformin 2.5-500mg 3x daily
Enalapril
Norvasc
Crestor
Fish Oil 1000 mg 2x daily
Levitra .... | 
07-15-2009, 09:54 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Georgia
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Originally Posted by princesslinda There's a milk you might want to try called "Hood Calorie Countdown," that comes in regular and chocolate. The regular 2% has 90 calories and 3 carbs per cup serving. I really enjoy the chocolate flavor...it's 90 calories and 5 carbs per cup serving. I've not tried the regular. It's available at our Walmart SuperCenters. | Linda-- I just looked at the Hoods milk website. Compared to "regular" milk, the HCC is much higher is sodium-- 160g in the 2% HCC and 300g in the chocolate.
I've eliminated added salt from my diet and trying to curb as much sodium as I can if I know about it due to kidneys and high BP. 
__________________ Diagnosed 09/2003
BG at diag 324
A1c at diag 9.7
Most recent A1c 6.0 (08/09)
Glyburide-Metformin 2.5-500mg 3x daily
Enalapril
Norvasc
Crestor
Fish Oil 1000 mg 2x daily
Levitra .... | 
07-15-2009, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by deercotn Linda-- I just looked at the Hoods milk website. Compared to "regular" milk, the HCC is much higher is sodium-- 160g in the 2% HCC and 300g in the chocolate.
I've eliminated added salt from my diet and trying to curb as much sodium as I can if I know about it due to kidneys and high BP.  |
Well if Hood's won't work for you, why not try eating your cereal dry? I suspect you would not care for what I use -- Eighth Continent light soymilk -- but it is low fat AND low carb ... and I believe low sodium too. And what fat there is is soy, since you are concerned about cholesterol (though if I were you, I would be worrying FAR more about your blood glucose's effect on your cholesterol, than about dietary cholesterol OR fat!).
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CoQ10 100 mg
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07-15-2009, 10:01 AM
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| | deercotn.....
Don't know if you have heard of this before, but dietary cholesterol is NOT a source for high serum cholesterol...
Do some searches.....
Good luck in finding a meal plan that "fits" you......  | 
07-15-2009, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by deercotn Linda-- I just looked at the Hoods milk website. Compared to "regular" milk, the HCC is much higher is sodium-- 160g in the 2% HCC and 300g in the chocolate.
I've eliminated added salt from my diet and trying to curb as much sodium as I can if I know about it due to kidneys and high BP.  | I guess that's why it has such a long "shelf-life." Hope you can find a cereal/milk combo that's good for your blood sugar.
I'm fortunate not to have problems with cholesterol, so the eggs work well for me. You might want to try "Egg-Beaters" egg substitute. Turkey bacon is also a lower fat choice and tastes good.
__________________ T2, diagnosed 8/31/06.
Metformin 500 mg twice daily
HCTZ 12.5 mg every other day for BP
Enalapril 20 mg 1 daily (ace-inhibitor)
Lower carb dieter (approx. 75 total carbs/day, more on weekends), taking chromium, multivitamin and fish oil tablets Initial A1C 8/06: 9.6
11/06: 6.2.
03/07: 5.3
06/07: 5.4
10/07: 5.3
05/08: 6.2 (after dealing with shingles & bronchiti)
2/09: 5.5 | 
07-15-2009, 10:04 AM
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| | Mmm..I like turkey bacon too.  | 
07-15-2009, 10:08 AM
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| | | You might also be able to find an almond milk that is pretty low carb and it's quite good with cereal.
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07-15-2009, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DannyK deercotn.....
Don't know if you have heard of this before, but dietary cholesterol is NOT a source for high serum cholesterol...
Do some searches.....
Good luck in finding a meal plan that "fits" you......  | Since you apparently know it all, why don't you fill me in!!
Diet most certainly does have an impact on serum cholesterol. YOU do some searches!! Here's a quote directly from the American Heart Association website: "Cholesterol comes from two sources: your body and food. Your liver and other cells in your body make about 75 percent of blood cholesterol. The other 25 percent comes from the foods you eat.
LDL cholesterol is the “bad” cholesterol. When too much of it circulates in the blood, it can clog arteries, increasing your risk of heart attack and stroke.
LDL cholesterol is produced naturally by the body, but many people inherit genes from their mother, father or even grandparents that cause them to make too much. Eating saturated fat, trans fats and dietary cholesterol also increases how much you have. If high blood cholesterol runs in your family, lifestyle modifications may not be enough to help lower your LDL blood cholesterol. Everyone is different, so work with your doctor to find a treatment plan that's best for you."
I just love it when people think they know it all but then open their mouth and stick their foot it it!
__________________ Diagnosed 09/2003
BG at diag 324
A1c at diag 9.7
Most recent A1c 6.0 (08/09)
Glyburide-Metformin 2.5-500mg 3x daily
Enalapril
Norvasc
Crestor
Fish Oil 1000 mg 2x daily
Levitra .... | 
07-15-2009, 10:30 AM
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| | | Oh my... I remember back when I first started posting in here and mentioned my high cholesterol and not eating eggs. I got hammered by several people over the whole cholesterol debate. It wasn't pretty. | 
07-15-2009, 10:39 AM
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| | | Speaking of "know-it-all", I think I understand why you're so able to recognize this trait.
And I have to wonder if you truly wish to eat a proper diet that will control your diabetes, or just find justification for eating whatever you want. Cheerios for breakfast is hurting you a lot more than that lowly egg. Kinda like the mac/cheese & muffins thing.
You have worse problems than your cholesterol OR your bg . . . you can look truth in the face and deny deny deny.
Since you care not for the wisdom advanced here on your behalf, I just have to wish you well as you go your merry way. I see severe difficulties in your future, but as I've said before, you call the shots & you can take your lumps.
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