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Old 07-20-2009, 06:42 AM
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Let me try and answer a few of these:

- Barb sauce was vinegar based and hot as He!!.
- The Okra was breaded but only a small portion was consumed.
- The pickles were Kosher pickles, only four slices were consumed.

Ok, in support of my theory here is what I did.

I stopped taking the cinnamon. It acutual slows the digestion giving you a feeling of fullness.

I started taking ginger root, Dandelion and Cayenne, 2 each, 3/times day. These are all meant to speed up your digestion process. I waited till my body adjusted and my digestive system was cleared and moving well.

I then ate three portions of cornmeal and flour breaded catfish (fried) and three Flour coated large chicken strips. Along with a portion of potatoe salad. Initial BG was 94, went to 145 in hour, 1.5 hrs was down to 110, 2 hrs was back to 100.

I will attempt this situation with the barb place in the near future, and pst the results.

Thanks for all of your responses
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Old 07-20-2009, 06:56 AM
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Let me try and answer a few of these:

- Barb sauce was vinegar based and hot as He!!.
- The Okra was breaded but only a small portion was consumed.
- The pickles were Kosher pickles, only four slices were consumed.

Ok, in support of my theory here is what I did.

I stopped taking the cinnamon. It acutual slows the digestion giving you a feeling of fullness.

I started taking ginger root, Dandelion and Cayenne, 2 each, 3/times day. These are all meant to speed up your digestion process. I waited till my body adjusted and my digestive system was cleared and moving well.

I then ate three portions of cornmeal and flour breaded catfish (fried) and three Flour coated large chicken strips. Along with a portion of potatoe salad. Initial BG was 94, went to 145 in hour, 1.5 hrs was down to 110, 2 hrs was back to 100.

I will attempt this situation with the barb place in the near future, and pst the results.

Thanks for all of your responses
Looks like your new combo was effective in helping lower BS within 2 hours.
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Old 07-20-2009, 07:31 AM
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Its seems to work, will not know for sure untill I go back to the Barbie and recreate that scene,
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Vitamins Bx, C, Ginkgo
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Old 07-20-2009, 08:05 AM
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I can tell you that it does not seem to work well for Breakfast. I am extremely carb sensitive in the morning. Had to break ranks this morning and eat a Mcdonalds Sausage egg cheese biscuit, went to 140 and still there 1.5 hrs later.
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Chromium Pichnolate, Gymnema Sylvestre
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Hi-Maize 260, Ground and Whole Flax Seed
COQ10, Celery Seed, Magnesium, Potassium, Calcium
Zinc, Selenium, Vitamin E, Fish Oil
Vitamins Bx, C, Ginkgo
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A1C 5.6,
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Old 07-20-2009, 09:23 AM
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I can tell you that it does not seem to work well for Breakfast. I am extremely carb sensitive in the morning. Had to break ranks this morning and eat a Mcdonalds Sausage egg cheese biscuit, went to 140 and still there 1.5 hrs later.
I find eating out tough, its kind of hard to control exactly the amt of carbs to fiber ratio.
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Old 07-20-2009, 09:33 AM
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Yes I agree, Checked again at 2hr 15 minutes and was back to 100, so not to bad.

I usually try and drink some fiber with a carb heavy breakfast but was not able to this morning.

As a side bar, I found out that the 5 hr energy drinks will drop your BG rather quickly. No sugar added. Just Amino Acids and B-12, caffiene. They will keep you kickin for awhile though
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Bitter Melon, Vanadyl Sulfate
Chromium Pichnolate, Gymnema Sylvestre
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Hi-Maize 260, Ground and Whole Flax Seed
COQ10, Celery Seed, Magnesium, Potassium, Calcium
Zinc, Selenium, Vitamin E, Fish Oil
Vitamins Bx, C, Ginkgo
Hawthorne, Vitamin D
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Old 07-20-2009, 12:32 PM
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Off the topic, but MCS, would you mind telling us why you are supplementing with celery seed. I'm remembering that a woman I knew 30 years ago said that celery should be eaten only very little by pregnant and nursing women. If she spoke of the reason I do not recall. I sometimes use celery seed to season hamburger while it is cooking.

And did I see fennel on your list? If so, have you tried it as a "tea." It makes a nice hot drink. Crush the seeds first to get more out of them. And if you grow fennel, the little umbels of flowers are delicious in a salad or even plain as a tiny sweet treat.

(oh never mind. I see it was fennugreek on your list. Some people say fennel is "good for" diabetes, too, but I don't know.)

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Old 07-20-2009, 02:41 PM
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As a side bar, I found out that the 5 hr energy drinks will drop your BG rather quickly. No sugar added. Just Amino Acids and B-12, caffiene. They will keep you kickin for awhile though
Quick question: Do B vitamins actually absorb properly when taken orally? Somewhere in my foggy mind I'm having a recollection that the "B's" are better administered by injection. DH was telling me just the other day that as a metformin patient, I might consider supplements of calcium & B12.
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Old 07-20-2009, 02:57 PM
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Celery seed lowers your blood pressure and takes care of uric acid in your blood stream. If you have gout or arthritus the celery seed can help. It has minimal effect on your BG, I was taking it for the blood pressure. Was at 220/110 at one time, now I am 110/67 and have been as low as 105/60 in the evening. Wife has to stick a fork in me to see if I am awake.

Both Fennel and Fennugreek were taken to lower BG, Need to update my SIGN. I didn't notice anything other than the bathroom smelling like a rotting turkey.




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Off the topic, but MCS, would you mind telling us why you are supplementing with celery seed. I'm remembering that a woman I knew 30 years ago said that celery should be eaten only very little by pregnant and nursing women. If she spoke of the reason I do not recall. I sometimes use celery seed to season hamburger while it is cooking.

And did I see fennel on your list? If so, have you tried it as a "tea." It makes a nice hot drink. Crush the seeds first to get more out of them. And if you grow fennel, the little umbels of flowers are delicious in a salad or even plain as a tiny sweet treat.

(oh never mind. I see it was fennugreek on your list. Some people say fennel is "good for" diabetes, too, but I don't know.)
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Old 07-20-2009, 03:00 PM
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Quick question: Do B vitamins actually absorb properly when taken orally? Somewhere in my foggy mind I'm having a recollection that the "B's" are better administered by injection. DH was telling me just the other day that as a metformin patient, I might consider supplements of calcium & B12.
What I have found out is that some people can not utilize the B-12 they ingest due to some mal-absorption. So they have to get thier B-12 thru injection. They do sell B-12 Sublinqual that I believe is methylated, it dissolves directly into your blood stream, never makes it to your stomach.
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Hi-Maize 260, Ground and Whole Flax Seed
COQ10, Celery Seed, Magnesium, Potassium, Calcium
Zinc, Selenium, Vitamin E, Fish Oil
Vitamins Bx, C, Ginkgo
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Old 07-20-2009, 03:14 PM
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Thanks, MCS - I'll start looking into this.

BTW, I'm about to stir up some of your flax bars . . .
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Old 07-20-2009, 05:41 PM
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My b-12 was low in my last labs. My doctor wanted to do shots and I asked for an alternative. She said I could do the sublingual B-12. I purchased mine at the health food store. They have huge amounts of B-12 because apparently your body can only use a portion of what it receives this way (according to my doctor).
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Old 07-21-2009, 07:19 AM
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Thanks, MCS - I'll start looking into this.

BTW, I'm about to stir up some of your flax bars . . .
My wife made me a new batch the other day. She added Cinnamon and Vanilla, along with 1-1/2 cups of splenda if you like them sweet. Be sure to use the green Bananas, the greener the better. I usually ask the produce man to get me new ones from the box in the back of the store.

We ran out of Walnuts so she increased the Sunflower seeds to 2 cups, not bad, don't miss the Walnuts at all. Ate 4 of them at lunch went to 135 for a very short time.

If anyone can get thier hands on Brown rice Bran, it has some of the most resistant starch of any food group. This would also be good to add to the Flax Seed bars.
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Type 2, Normal would be nice, but I am not sure what normal is anymore

Bitter Melon, Vanadyl Sulfate
Chromium Pichnolate, Gymnema Sylvestre
Protien Hydrosylates, Amino Acids
Hi-Maize 260, Ground and Whole Flax Seed
COQ10, Celery Seed, Magnesium, Potassium, Calcium
Zinc, Selenium, Vitamin E, Fish Oil
Vitamins Bx, C, Ginkgo
Hawthorne, Vitamin D
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Old 07-21-2009, 07:58 AM
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Please clairfy on the bananas, you mentioned somewhere else that they should be too green to peel. Does this mean you use the peel and the fruit? Thanks.
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:52 AM
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Green Bananas have what researchers are calling resistant starch. When the Bananas ripen this resistant starch is converted to carbs that are readily available to your body. What I do is peel the Bananas with a knife and blend the insides not the peel. The resistant starch is a carb that is harder for your body to convert into glucose. The Buckwheat has a natural occuring chemical called Inositol, which helps regulate BG for those of us that insulin resistant.

Hope this helps

Resistant starch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Type 2, Normal would be nice, but I am not sure what normal is anymore

Bitter Melon, Vanadyl Sulfate
Chromium Pichnolate, Gymnema Sylvestre
Protien Hydrosylates, Amino Acids
Hi-Maize 260, Ground and Whole Flax Seed
COQ10, Celery Seed, Magnesium, Potassium, Calcium
Zinc, Selenium, Vitamin E, Fish Oil
Vitamins Bx, C, Ginkgo
Hawthorne, Vitamin D
Alpha-Lipoic-Acid, Biotin, ACAI Berry
Avoiding refined carbs
A1C 5.6,
I am the experimenting type, try, decide, move on.
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