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Old 08-17-2009, 11:19 AM
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Please keep this up, it's fascinating!

I don't understand about the trouble with re-heating, did you set yourself afire or am I missing something?
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Old 08-17-2009, 11:29 AM
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When you reheat leftovers to much you essentially break down carbs that were not available the first go round. Same as over cooking dream fields pasta. You will not be creating more carbs but the carbs that would not have been available for digestion to glucose will increase.
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Old 08-17-2009, 11:31 AM
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When you reheat leftovers to much you essentially break down carbs that were not available the first go round. Same as over cooking dream fields pasta. You will not be creating more carbs but the carbs that would not have been available for digestion to glucose will increase.
I, who used to LIVE on reheated leftovers (mostly BEANS, too, fuhcryinoutloud!!!) made on Sundays, have definitely noticed this effect.

Matter of fact ... 1 cup of bean soup (2/3 black soy, 1/3 kidney rinsed, 1 onion) just spiked me to 147 at 1hr 15 min. AW %@#!@#$$%&!!

Insulin, here I come ...
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Old 08-17-2009, 11:44 AM
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Pretty sure it was the Vidalia Onion. Don't know if you ever had any, but they are sweet enough to make a pie, and had several Vidalia Onion Pies in the past. Didn't think of this when I reheated the leftovers with all of those onions in there. I probably had 50 grams or more of pure Vidalia sweetness. So in a sense I guess it was a good thing I only went to 170.
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Old 08-17-2009, 01:27 PM
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I LOVE(D) Vidalia onions. Heck, I love ANY onions.

Are onions notorious for breaking down, in particular with storage or reheating? Maybe I could add raw onion after reheating? I MISS MY BEANS!!!
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Old 08-17-2009, 02:48 PM
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I would think onions and peppers would be the culprit in reheating. Those beans, they may be contributing as well though. I try and figure out a test for such a thing.
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Old 08-17-2009, 02:56 PM
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I swear, I am battling to eat my #@$~ beans, LOL.

Black beans are my bete noir?

Seems I can eat pasta with red sauce, I put onions in that and do okay. Measured pasta, of course. But I get away with the leftovers.
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Old 08-17-2009, 03:12 PM
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Glad to see you posting again! Sorry about the unwanted rise, but thanks for the 'reheating' lesson. I'll remember now.

How much magnesium do you take? Everything I've read suggests 250/350 daily. Does that sound right?
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Old 08-17-2009, 04:49 PM
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I am taking it for BP so I am taking 4, 200mg caps, but I think that may be excessive, so I am dropping back to 2 caps in the morning. I would think 400mg should be enough.

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Glad to see you posting again! Sorry about the unwanted rise, but thanks for the 'reheating' lesson. I'll remember now.

How much magnesium do you take? Everything I've read suggests 250/350 daily. Does that sound right?
By the way I repeated the re-heat on the Fijatas, same meal exactly, just left the peppers and onions in the bowl. BG was 100 at 1 hr. It was definetly the onions and peppers.
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Old 08-17-2009, 05:42 PM
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By the way I repeated the re-heat on the Fijatas, same meal exactly, just left the peppers and onions in the bowl. BG was 100 at 1 hr. It was definetly the onions and peppers.
Hmmm ... will have to try that!
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Old 08-17-2009, 05:54 PM
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I think if you cook your beans, by the way which ones are BG friendly that you have found. Reheat to just above room temp and then add fresh onion, that should work for you and me as far as that goes.
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Old 08-17-2009, 06:21 PM
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I think if you cook your beans, by the way which ones are BG friendly that you have found. Reheat to just above room temp and then add fresh onion, that should work for you and me as far as that goes.
Eden black soy beans are it, so far, and they are a "maybe!" Very tasty though!
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Old 08-19-2009, 09:21 AM
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Well here's my 2cents.

As you guys know I've been pushing the Drink Water increase Muscle Mass not too heavy on the Aerobics Theory(too much aerobics will send you to McDonalds before to replenish the energy stored in your liver instead of burning fat).

I read this link to help me understand how muscles burn glucose.

Muscle Physiology - Glucose Metabolism


Now I also have read that Alcohol digestion decreases glucose production in the liver since the liver digest the alchol prior to your meal.

Now from what little I've read about Metformin that's what it try's to do. Reduce Glucose activity from the liver and increase Glucose burning in muscles.

It's a well proven fact that water is NEEDED to burn glucose.

So I think that if you.

1) Build up your muscle mass, i.e, increase 24/7 glucose burning

2) Drink Water with every meal: Bring down glucose in blood AND help gluscose burning.

3) Drink a little alcohol with each meal. Not too much you might get low (more proof that Alcohol lowers sugar)

4) Take a little walk after meals: Walking burns energy and increases that rate at which digest food.

5) Eat some fiber( I like carrots, good for eyes which are one of the first things to get affected by D) to decrease the time food stays in your digestive track.


Your numbers will go down or you might be able to eat large meals.

There you go, my form of METFORMIN. ..... j/k.

I read a thread on this board of a guy who was getting great numbers after having alcohol with meals. So I through that into my equation.


... note: I accidently placed this in Grant thread, but it was meant for here.
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Old 08-19-2009, 11:20 AM
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08/19/09

Besides the reheat problem with the onions and peppers I had noticed my BG climbing back up. I also had 2 Tbs of the equate brand of fiber following this reheat meal, I am thinking it didn't help. I am not into danger levels but not where they were. High 80s low 90s, FBG was in the mid 80s. FBG went back to 105. Most of the day staying in the low 100s, when I was lower before.

Well I think I found the culprit: I switched from Benefiber to the Wal-Mart equate brand of soluble fiber a day or so ago. I found this out this morning. Breakfast was 4 eggs, cheese, mushrooms, no bread of any kind. Along with that I had 2 TBS of the equate brand soluble fiber. My BG should have never budged, but it went to 122 in an hour and 116 at 2 hrs.

Went to Wal-Mart at lunch purchased the real thing, Benefiber, had a low carb protien shake with 2 Tbs of Benefiber and a handfull of Almonds for lunch. BG in an hour back to 100.

I will know for sure if this was the culprit tomorrow morning.
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Old 08-19-2009, 11:26 AM
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Interesting!

I am not on any fiber supplement at the moment ... so it is not my problem but one to definitely consider since I have used it in the past!
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T4 125 mcg
baby aspirin
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