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09-22-2009, 11:15 AM
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| | | I just have to throw this out there. I have a friend who SWEARS that her newly discovered blueberries, along with exercise, is responsible for her excellent cholesterol results last time she went to the endo. I can not remember what all her numbers were, but I do remember that her HDL was 89! And the last time it was around 50. I have to add that her numbers were already within normal range, but she is obsessed because her father has heart issues and had 4 bypasses.
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type 1 (1.5) 12 years, Pumper 6 1/2 years? or so.
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09-22-2009, 11:16 AM
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| | | BLUEBERRIES? Never heard that one.
Oh to see an HDL of EIGHTY NINE. YOW!
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Linda Initial A1c Feb 6 09: 12%
Aug 24 A1c (MD office) 5.5% 
Jul ... C-pep 1.3, GAD-65 > 30
metformin 1000 mg BID
Simvastatin 80 mg
Ramipril 5 mg
T4 125 mcg
baby aspirin
Vitamin D3, 2000 IU (blood values normal, advised to continue this dose by endo)
CoQ10 100 mg
Eating 70 - 90 g carb per day
Interval training on recumbent cycle
BMI is down to ca. 25.8 According to Joslin's Diabetes, 2005 ed., 5 - 30% of those diagnosed as Type 2 actually have LADA. |
09-22-2009, 11:24 AM
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| | Blueberry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Quote: |
Especially in wild species, blueberries contain anthocyanins, other antioxidant pigments and various phytochemicals possibly having a role in reducing risks of some diseases, including inflammation and certain cancers.
| I'd also add my vote to the low-bush or wild variety over the larger but cultured high-bush ones  I have a tray of wild blueberries in my freezer and eat a small handful most days
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09-22-2009, 11:28 AM
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| | | I go to the doc at the end of this month Linda and we will discuss statins again. I have done EVERYTHING, I think, is humanly possible to lower my cholesterol. I have tried the things I did in the past when my numbers were a lot better. We will see. I really want to avoid the statins, but don't know if I can. My endo thinks I am one of the lucky ones to have a genetic predisposition to high cholesterol numbers. sigh......
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09-22-2009, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by notme  I go to the doc at the end of this month Linda and we will discuss statins again. I have done EVERYTHING, I think, is humanly possible to lower my cholesterol. I have tried the things I did in the past when my numbers were a lot better. We will see. I really want to avoid the statins, but don't know if I can. My endo thinks I am one of the lucky ones to have a genetic predisposition to high cholesterol numbers. sigh...... | That is how I feel, too, Nancy. You might try niacin, first, with your endo's say-so ... it is over the counter, cheap, and not a statin, and in fact, with the fast-acting form, carries less risk of liver damage than the statins.
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Linda Initial A1c Feb 6 09: 12%
Aug 24 A1c (MD office) 5.5%
Jul ... C-pep 1.3, GAD-65 > 30
metformin 1000 mg BID
Simvastatin 80 mg
Ramipril 5 mg
T4 125 mcg
baby aspirin
Vitamin D3, 2000 IU (blood values normal, advised to continue this dose by endo)
CoQ10 100 mg
Eating 70 - 90 g carb per day
Interval training on recumbent cycle
BMI is down to ca. 25.8 According to Joslin's Diabetes, 2005 ed., 5 - 30% of those diagnosed as Type 2 actually have LADA. |
09-22-2009, 11:46 AM
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| | | If it makes you feel better my HDL is worse. I take Zocor 40mg and fish oil. I think mine were 41. |
09-22-2009, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Kosmo29 If it makes you feel better my HDL is worse. I take Zocor 40mg and fish oil. I think mine were 41. | Yup Zocor is Simvastatin. Here we are, at the bottom, glub glub ... 
ETA: I think when I was low-fatting, about 16 yrs ago or so, before I took Niacin, mine was like 29! WITH exercise!
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Linda Initial A1c Feb 6 09: 12%
Aug 24 A1c (MD office) 5.5%
Jul ... C-pep 1.3, GAD-65 > 30
metformin 1000 mg BID
Simvastatin 80 mg
Ramipril 5 mg
T4 125 mcg
baby aspirin
Vitamin D3, 2000 IU (blood values normal, advised to continue this dose by endo)
CoQ10 100 mg
Eating 70 - 90 g carb per day
Interval training on recumbent cycle
BMI is down to ca. 25.8 According to Joslin's Diabetes, 2005 ed., 5 - 30% of those diagnosed as Type 2 actually have LADA. |
09-22-2009, 11:54 AM
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| | | Oh yeah, forgot about that. They are the same. I am pre-diabetic trying to keep away the full blown type. My BP is good, but you may know how much does chol play into diabete's? |
09-22-2009, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Kosmo29 Oh yeah, forgot about that. They are the same. I am pre-diabetic trying to keep away the full blown type. My BP is good, but you may know how much does chol play into diabete's? | Uhhhmmm .. which causes which? I suspect mine was as much a symptom of IR or blood sugar problems, really.
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Linda Initial A1c Feb 6 09: 12%
Aug 24 A1c (MD office) 5.5%
Jul ... C-pep 1.3, GAD-65 > 30
metformin 1000 mg BID
Simvastatin 80 mg
Ramipril 5 mg
T4 125 mcg
baby aspirin
Vitamin D3, 2000 IU (blood values normal, advised to continue this dose by endo)
CoQ10 100 mg
Eating 70 - 90 g carb per day
Interval training on recumbent cycle
BMI is down to ca. 25.8 According to Joslin's Diabetes, 2005 ed., 5 - 30% of those diagnosed as Type 2 actually have LADA. |
09-22-2009, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by notme I really want to avoid the statins, but don't know if I can. My endo thinks I am one of the lucky ones to have a genetic predisposition to high cholesterol numbers. sigh...... | I sympathise, I gave up in the end and went on simvastatin (Zocor). In six weeks it dropped my cholesterol from 261 to 172 and my LDL from 182 to 92, my HDL is still a horror story though... In all the time I have been trying to reduce my cholesterol I never got anywhere near these numbers with diet or exercise rather annoyingly. I was worried about the liver side effects but that seems ok for now. |
09-22-2009, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Tribbles I sympathise, I gave up in the end and went on simvastatin (Zocor). In six weeks it dropped my cholesterol from 261 to 172 and my LDL from 182 to 92, my HDL is still a horror story though... In all the time I have been trying to reduce my cholesterol I never got anywhere near these numbers with diet or exercise rather annoyingly. I was worried about the liver side effects but that seems ok for now. | Wow so maybe ALL the decrease in my case has been pharmacologic, ie, not dietary (low-carbing). Huh, that IS annoying.
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Linda Initial A1c Feb 6 09: 12%
Aug 24 A1c (MD office) 5.5%
Jul ... C-pep 1.3, GAD-65 > 30
metformin 1000 mg BID
Simvastatin 80 mg
Ramipril 5 mg
T4 125 mcg
baby aspirin
Vitamin D3, 2000 IU (blood values normal, advised to continue this dose by endo)
CoQ10 100 mg
Eating 70 - 90 g carb per day
Interval training on recumbent cycle
BMI is down to ca. 25.8 According to Joslin's Diabetes, 2005 ed., 5 - 30% of those diagnosed as Type 2 actually have LADA. |
09-22-2009, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Kosmo29 If it makes you feel better my HDL is worse. I take Zocor 40mg and fish oil. I think mine were 41. | Quote:
Originally Posted by foxl Yup Zocor is Simvastatin. Here we are, at the bottom, glub glub ... ! | The biggest effect of my statin use was on LDL. And just for the record, your HDL is higher than mine . . .  I'm taking fish oil too & thinking about R-ALA, but it'll be awhile before I have more labs - gotta get the last batch paid off first. 
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09-22-2009, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by foxl BLUEBERRIES? Never heard that one.
Oh to see an HDL of EIGHTY NINE. YOW! | I know! I eat blueberries but wouldn't say daily. I figured I'd give it a try and see if my HDL moves up from the typical 45. We shall see!
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type 1 (1.5) 12 years, Pumper 6 1/2 years? or so.
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09-22-2009, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by foxl Yah Frank, we have been all over this about women and statins ...
And Shottle, I know about the cognitive side effect -- and will be watching closely! As will my husband who about threw a fit when I agreed to try the higher dose.
As I said I would like to get back on my niacin, it raises HDL for one thing, and I was on it fro what, 15 yrs before D diagnosis and it MAY protect beta cells, as well ... and I will discuss further at next appt, at a minimum.
Stay posted -- it might become fun. Or not. | Linda, how much niacin was you taking?? I just can't seem to get my HDL up (22) and I take 500 mg twice a day.
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09-22-2009, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by retired60 Linda, how much niacin was you taking?? I just can't seem to get my HDL up (22) and I take 500 mg twice a day. | I worked up to 2000 per day. The max is like 3 or 4000 I think, don't remember.
Wow 22 -- you beat me!
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Linda Initial A1c Feb 6 09: 12%
Aug 24 A1c (MD office) 5.5%
Jul ... C-pep 1.3, GAD-65 > 30
metformin 1000 mg BID
Simvastatin 80 mg
Ramipril 5 mg
T4 125 mcg
baby aspirin
Vitamin D3, 2000 IU (blood values normal, advised to continue this dose by endo)
CoQ10 100 mg
Eating 70 - 90 g carb per day
Interval training on recumbent cycle
BMI is down to ca. 25.8 According to Joslin's Diabetes, 2005 ed., 5 - 30% of those diagnosed as Type 2 actually have LADA. |
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