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09-22-2009, 10:18 AM
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I am a: Type 1.5 | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: KCMO
Posts: 5,435
| | | okay don'ch'yall jump on me ...
I am moderately low-carbing, AND taking statins. And freely eating dairy fats -- 1 - 2 oz cheese per day, plus eggs (about 6 per week) and butter and cream ...
Last week lipids:
Total = 162
HDL = 43
LDL calculated = 102
and my Endo is now doubling my Simvastatin.
I will be discussing adding back my Niacin to substitute at least half of that, in November. I cannot think of a more practical way of bringing up that pesky HDL. I don't drink EtOH, or not often.
I am using a generic statin ... and I am going along with lipid-lowering measures, because I am a bit of a wimp: both my parents died of Alzheimer's.
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Linda Initial A1c Feb 6 09: 12%
Aug 24 A1c (MD office) 5.5% 
Jul ... C-pep 1.3, GAD-65 > 30
metformin 1000 mg BID
Simvastatin 80 mg
Ramipril 5 mg
T4 125 mcg
baby aspirin
Vitamin D3, 2000 IU (blood values normal, advised to continue this dose by endo)
CoQ10 100 mg
Eating 70 - 90 g carb per day
Interval training on recumbent cycle
BMI is down to ca. 25.8 According to Joslin's Diabetes, 2005 ed., 5 - 30% of those diagnosed as Type 2 actually have LADA. |
09-22-2009, 10:25 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 10,080
| | Linda, have you tried Fishoil? My HDL was 23 and doc told me meds wouldn't really help with that, that I should try exercise, red wine at bedtime and fish oil. 3 months after that I was at 46 and am around 48 now. I have a small glass of red wine abuot 3-4 nights a week (hate the taste, but I sleep well!  ).
I use the Vitamin World fish oil, 3 caps a day (which I take all at once at bedtime, it's just easier for me that way).
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T2, diagnosed 8/31/06.
Metformin 500 mg twice daily
HCTZ 12.5 mg every other day for BP
Enalapril 20 mg 1 daily (ace-inhibitor)
Lower carb dieter (approx. 75 total carbs/day, more on weekends), taking chromium, multivitamin and fish oil tablets
Initial A1C 8/06: 9.6
11/06: 6.2.
03/07: 5.3
06/07: 5.4
10/07: 5.3
05/08: 6.2 (after dealing with shingles & bronchiti)
2/09: 5.5 |
09-22-2009, 10:26 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 5,283
| | what were your Trigs..?
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Frank
51 year old male, Metabolic Syndrome Dx Mar. 2003 |
09-22-2009, 10:27 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Northern California
Posts: 9,311
| | | I tried fish oil and flax seed oil. Neither one liked my stomach much! I wish that had worked.
__________________  Nancy Kind words can be short and easy to speak but their echoes are truly endless. Mother Teresa diagnosed type 1 October 1986
currently using Medtronic MiniMed
paradigm 715 CLEAR  |
09-22-2009, 10:34 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: France
Posts: 186
| | | I thought that exercise is the recognized best way to raise your HDL?
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Dx 7/09
A1c @ Dx 7.2
Lisinopril/HCTZ
Synthroid
Vitamin D
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09-22-2009, 10:40 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: columbus ohio
Posts: 3,769
| | | well, Okay, i am backing ya!
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July 31st 08 10.5
Sept 08 8.3
Oct 21 7.1
Nov21 6.2
March 23 09 5.8
july 5.9 1 year D!!!
lo carb under 50g a day and excersize
calorie restriction
quinipril- 5 mg a day
metformin ER 500 a day
80 mg varapimil 3 x a day
I LOVE YOU!
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09-22-2009, 10:41 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,325
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Originally Posted by Abra  I thought that exercise is the recognized best way to raise your HDL? | Don't know if there is anything defnitive on that, but it's a strong correlation that physically active people tend to have higher HDL levels.
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MDI, Lantus and Novolog
A1c 10/09 -- 5.8%
A1c 4/09 -- 5.7%
A1c 10/08 -- 5.4%
A1c 4/08 -- 5.7%
A1c 8/07 -- 5.6%
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09-22-2009, 10:41 AM
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I am a: Type 1.5 | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: KCMO
Posts: 5,435
| | Abra with 3 little kids I am about at my exercise limit, which is not very much (about 150 min per week  ( ).
Frank, WOULD YA BELIEVE, I did not ask about my trigs ... (and they are not copying my results to me dan g it) they were normal, like 100, about a year ago, pre-dx but not entirely pre-symptoms ...
princesslinda, I do not take fish oil, as a vegetarian. I do take flax oil, 2000 mg per day.
The BIG BATTLE for the last, oh, 18 years, has been low HDL. I can run my patooty off and STILL have low HDL. So here we go again. Maybe I should take up drinking to make 'em shut up?
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Linda Initial A1c Feb 6 09: 12%
Aug 24 A1c (MD office) 5.5%
Jul ... C-pep 1.3, GAD-65 > 30
metformin 1000 mg BID
Simvastatin 80 mg
Ramipril 5 mg
T4 125 mcg
baby aspirin
Vitamin D3, 2000 IU (blood values normal, advised to continue this dose by endo)
CoQ10 100 mg
Eating 70 - 90 g carb per day
Interval training on recumbent cycle
BMI is down to ca. 25.8 According to Joslin's Diabetes, 2005 ed., 5 - 30% of those diagnosed as Type 2 actually have LADA. |
09-22-2009, 10:43 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 10,080
| | Duh! Forgot you were vegetarian. Guess fish oil wouldn't work for you. 
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T2, diagnosed 8/31/06.
Metformin 500 mg twice daily
HCTZ 12.5 mg every other day for BP
Enalapril 20 mg 1 daily (ace-inhibitor)
Lower carb dieter (approx. 75 total carbs/day, more on weekends), taking chromium, multivitamin and fish oil tablets
Initial A1C 8/06: 9.6
11/06: 6.2.
03/07: 5.3
06/07: 5.4
10/07: 5.3
05/08: 6.2 (after dealing with shingles & bronchiti)
2/09: 5.5 |
09-22-2009, 10:46 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 5,283
| | I gotta just suggest that Trigs and HDL may be more significant than LDL. And voice a concern about the side-effects of Statins.
LDL is by volume... but LDL comes in different sized particles... Beyond Routine Cholesterol Testing: The Role of LDL Particle Size Assessment Quote:
by Paul E. Lemanski, MD, MS, director of the Center for Preventive Medicine and Cardiovascular Health, Prime Care Physicians, P.C., and assistant clinical professor of medicine at Albany Medical College
...
A growing body of evidence suggests that LDL particles that are small and dense are more atherogenic than those which are large and “fluffy.” Thus, two patients with the same LDL measurement in mg/dl may have differing levels of cardiovascular risk depending on the relative proportions of small, dense and large, fluffy particles.
...
Individuals with [Triglycerides] below 70 do not have small, dense LDL.
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Frank
51 year old male, Metabolic Syndrome Dx Mar. 2003 |
09-22-2009, 10:49 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 168
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Originally Posted by foxl Abra with 3 little kids I am about at my exercise limit, which is not very much (about 150 min per week ( ).
Frank, WOULD YA BELIEVE, I did not ask about my trigs ... (and they are not copying my results to me dan g it) they were normal, like 100, about a year ago, pre-dx but not entirely pre-symptoms ...
princesslinda, I do not take fish oil, as a vegetarian. I do take flax oil, 2000 mg per day.
The BIG BATTLE for the last, oh, 18 years, has been low HDL. I can run my patooty off and STILL have low HDL. So here we go again. Maybe I should take up drinking to make 'em shut up? | Were your numbers up since the lasts tests, Linda? Sorry if I missed where you might have said whether they were or weren't. I know my sister (who isn't diabetic) had horrible numbers and she had to go on medicine to correct them. I hope they move in the direction you need them to. I wish my Dr. would have ordered some new tests. I'd like to know what mine are since the last test in May. |
09-22-2009, 10:54 AM
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I am a: Type 1.5 | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: KCMO
Posts: 5,435
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Originally Posted by MrsMia Were your numbers up since the lasts tests, Linda? Sorry if I missed where you might have said whether they were or weren't. I know my sister (who isn't diabetic) had horrible numbers and she had to go on medicine to correct them. I hope they move in the direction you need them to. I wish my Dr. would have ordered some new tests. I'd like to know what mine are since the last test in May. | No, they are down from a year ago. My Endo (who I started with Aug 24) is new to my lipids, is all.
Guess I am gonna die with lovely clean arteries ... perhaps. And considering the retinologist could see arterial stenosis ... I want to keep em clean!
Frank, I will be absolutely vigilant in monitoring side effects. I have read the controversy, of course, at length, I am just still hedging my bets, here ...
PrincessL, even the flax caps I buy are still gelatin-based which violates my dietary beliefs ... but realisticially, not my budget or sense of realism (it always comes down to that).
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Linda Initial A1c Feb 6 09: 12%
Aug 24 A1c (MD office) 5.5%
Jul ... C-pep 1.3, GAD-65 > 30
metformin 1000 mg BID
Simvastatin 80 mg
Ramipril 5 mg
T4 125 mcg
baby aspirin
Vitamin D3, 2000 IU (blood values normal, advised to continue this dose by endo)
CoQ10 100 mg
Eating 70 - 90 g carb per day
Interval training on recumbent cycle
BMI is down to ca. 25.8 According to Joslin's Diabetes, 2005 ed., 5 - 30% of those diagnosed as Type 2 actually have LADA. |
09-22-2009, 11:01 AM
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I am a: Pre-Diabetic | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Greater San Diego area
Posts: 1,428
| | | There is some concern, foxl, that using statins to lower cholesterol can actual hurt cognitive functioning--statins work by inhibiting the production of cholesterol, and cholesterol is needed for the proper functioning of your neurons. You might check out the UCSD Statin Effects Study, or spacedoc.net.
Also, calculated LDL may have little resemblance to your actual LDL measurement. The formula is greatly affected by your triglyceride level: LDL Cholesterol = Total Cholesterol - HDL - (TG / 5). Moreover, your triglyceride level is not a very stable number, being highly affected by your diet.
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Dx prediabetic 02/08 (FBG 127 and 123)
A1c 02/08: 6.5; A1c 05/08: 6.0
A1c 11/08: 5.5; A1c 03/09: 5.3
A1c 09/09: 5.4
No meds
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09-22-2009, 11:03 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 5,283
| | OK... last nag.. I promise...
Being vigilant -- I still think it is important to find out what your Trigs are.
and -- if I read right -- doubling the Simvastatin won't help with your HDL level.
and any studies I have found which even suggest any association between blood cholesterol levels and CVD were on middle-aged men NOT women (and I'm not saying you are middle-aged... just not a man  )
Be well 
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Frank
51 year old male, Metabolic Syndrome Dx Mar. 2003 |
09-22-2009, 11:15 AM
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I am a: Type 1.5 | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: KCMO
Posts: 5,435
| | | Yah Frank, we have been all over this about women and statins ...
And Shottle, I know about the cognitive side effect -- and will be watching closely! As will my husband who about threw a fit when I agreed to try the higher dose.
As I said I would like to get back on my niacin, it raises HDL for one thing, and I was on it fro what, 15 yrs before D diagnosis and it MAY protect beta cells, as well ... and I will discuss further at next appt, at a minimum.
Stay posted -- it might become fun. Or not.
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Linda Initial A1c Feb 6 09: 12%
Aug 24 A1c (MD office) 5.5%
Jul ... C-pep 1.3, GAD-65 > 30
metformin 1000 mg BID
Simvastatin 80 mg
Ramipril 5 mg
T4 125 mcg
baby aspirin
Vitamin D3, 2000 IU (blood values normal, advised to continue this dose by endo)
CoQ10 100 mg
Eating 70 - 90 g carb per day
Interval training on recumbent cycle
BMI is down to ca. 25.8 According to Joslin's Diabetes, 2005 ed., 5 - 30% of those diagnosed as Type 2 actually have LADA. |
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