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Old 11-02-2009, 08:57 AM
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Yes, it is a fungus related to mushrooms ... some people find it objectionable because it is "laboratory grown." I am afraid I am more practical than that ... cruelty to fungus is not so disturbing to me! Put more plainly, gotta eat somethin!
Haha..

Speaking of mushrooms..have you ever had one of those mushroom burger things they do(made of mushrooms completely). They are pretty tasty believe it or not.

I put mushrooms on a lot of stuff..lol.
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:00 AM
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Haha..

Speaking of mushrooms..have you ever had one of those mushroom burger things they do(made of mushrooms completely). They are pretty tasty believe it or not.

I put mushrooms on a lot of stuff..lol.
Oh, yes, the giant portabella stuffed with cheese, trimmings, and a (flaxmeal for me!) bun -- YUMMY! Mushrooms are GREAT in many ways!
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Initial A1c Feb 6 09: 12%
Aug 24 A1c (MD office) 5.5%
Jul ... C-pep 1.3, GAD-65 > 30

metformin 1000 mg BID
Simvastatin 80 mg
Ramipril 5 mg
T4 125 mcg
baby aspirin
Vitamin D3, 2000 IU (blood values normal, advised to continue this dose by endo)
CoQ10 100 mg
Eating 70 - 90 g carb per day
Interval training on recumbent cycle
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:46 AM
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I feel your pain,as does everyone who has just started this diabetic journey. For me, it was a matter of mind over matter. I think I craved things that I never ate much before just because I knew I could no longer eat them. With the help of this forum and the recipes, I get more creative with my foods every day. I try not to say," I can't eat that." I just tell myself, " I don't eat that." When you can see the results of working so hard(blood sugar better readings,wt coming down), it makes sense. Notice, I did not say it was easy. I have seen the end results of blood sugars not controlled and don't want to be there. It is tough love,but you will do it. I was amazed that dark chocolate was allowable. I never liked the dark chocolate,but when you crave something sweet, it sure fills the bill and believe me, I learned to LOVE it. Hang in there and share your thoughts with all of us. We learn from each other.Stay in touch.
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:00 PM
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For me, it is SO much easier to avoid carbs if I cut them WAY back. Eating 30g carbs per meal would only give me more and more cravings. Eating 10 or fewer carbs per meal (only from things like veggies, not potatoes, bread, pasta, rice, etc.) makes my cravings vanish after just a couple weeks. The first couple weeks are rough sometimes, but after you get used to not having the carbs, they actually make you feel CRAPPY when you do have them!
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Old 11-02-2009, 03:36 PM
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For me, it is SO much easier to avoid carbs if I cut them WAY back. Eating 30g carbs per meal would only give me more and more cravings. Eating 10 or fewer carbs per meal (only from things like veggies, not potatoes, bread, pasta, rice, etc.) makes my cravings vanish after just a couple weeks. The first couple weeks are rough sometimes, but after you get used to not having the carbs, they actually make you feel CRAPPY when you do have them!
I just wanted to chime in and say that I agree with other folks here. I think if you cut back to 20-30g a day for a couple of weeks, those cravings would go right on away.

Then again, like Grant had said, it isn't for everyone. I'm back to trying the 20-30g a day approach, I'd found my carb intake slowly increasing back from where I'd started and I didn't like it. 20-30 a day doesn't sound like a lot, but it can be.

I had a 3 egg and cheese omelet this morning, a very nutritional grilled chicken salad for lunch, and will probably have some form of chicken breast, or steak or something for dinner.

You can get PLENTY of food doing 20-30g of carbs a day, the food just has to come from proteins and fats. It's very tasty.
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:17 PM
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I just wanted to chime in and say that I agree with other folks here. I think if you cut back to 20-30g a day for a couple of weeks, those cravings would go right on away.

Then again, like Grant had said, it isn't for everyone. I'm back to trying the 20-30g a day approach, I'd found my carb intake slowly increasing back from where I'd started and I didn't like it. 20-30 a day doesn't sound like a lot, but it can be.

I had a 3 egg and cheese omelet this morning, a very nutritional grilled chicken salad for lunch, and will probably have some form of chicken breast, or steak or something for dinner.

You can get PLENTY of food doing 20-30g of carbs a day, the food just has to come from proteins and fats. It's very tasty.
I wanted to chime in with a ! Cutting back your curbs further will possibly cause those cravings to diminish. (And, yes, Grant is right - it's not for everyone, but it doesn't hurt to try it & see if it works for you & see if it's something you can live with if it does.)
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Old 11-03-2009, 01:40 AM
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You can get PLENTY of food doing 20-30g of carbs a day, the food just has to come from proteins and fats. It's very tasty.
Another - It's been said before, but IMO it's much easier to do if you enjoy cooking. Going lower-carb (about 50g now) has opened up a whole new range of foods and flavors for me - and that makes for fun in the kitchen. So yes, I've lost some foods (and a lot of junk) from my diet ... but I've gained a lot too.

It took several weeks to kick the carb habit - but it was worth the effort. How do I know? I just look at my meter, my girth, my lipids, my blood pressure and the pile of tasty food on my plate.
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:18 AM
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Another - It's been said before, but IMO it's much easier to do if you enjoy cooking.
ugh, I hate cooking (and cleaning up afterwards!).

That said, I have very succesfully stuck to a low-carb plan while eating most meals out at restaurants. I can order a steak (mmm, prime rib...) with a salad and/or vegetable (broccoli, cauliflower, green beans - whatever they have other than potatoes or corn). Or I can get a big salad topped with roasted chicken, bacon, shredded cheese, and creamy dressing. Or Thai food, no rice, just meat, veggies, and a non-sweet sauce. Or even fast food - any burger or grilled chicken sandwich, toss the bun. Or KFC grilled chicken.

Of course, cooking yourself is usually "safer" in that there are fewer temptations, plus you know 100% for sure exactly what is going into your food. I do wish I enjoyed cooking or had the time to do it without resentment, but that's not my life right now. But, not to worry, as low carbing is still possible!
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:22 AM
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ugh, I hate cooking (and cleaning up afterwards!).

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But, not to worry, as low carbing is still possible!
Yes! Of course it is

Although I was hoping you'd offer to do the washing up if I cooked ...
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:29 AM
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Although I was hoping you'd offer to do the washing up if I cooked ...
heh, I hope I'm always working full time, because I would make a HORRIBLE housewife! If I had all the time in the world to clean, I still wouldn't do it!
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:37 AM
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Oh and I understand the cooking thing! I just graduated college, so now I can't use the excuse of I was a full time student to say I didn't like cooking and cleaning! lol

Ate successfully really low carb yesterday. My numbers were good all day long and everything. They were actually really low(normal low) at night, which was not normal, but I'm doing okay except first thing in the morning.

Woke up with a 128. Any ideas on how to fix that? I seem to be doing well all the rest of the day, and my bs goes down as soon as I'm up and moving. My after breakfast reading is usually lower than my morning!

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Changes:
10/8/09: 143 pounds 11/20/09 127
Medicine: Lantus (Started 10/8/09)
Metformin 500 2x daily (Started 10/19/09)
Lisinopril 5mg, up from 2.5 (Started 11/20/09), for my kidneys
100mg Effexor 2x daily, for anxiety
Buspar 2x daily as needed, for anxiety(Started 11/20/09
Alpha-Lipoic Acid 600mg
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Chromium 400mcg
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:44 AM
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Oh and I understand the cooking thing! I just graduated college, so now I can't use the excuse of I was a full time student to say I didn't like cooking and cleaning! lol

Ate successfully really low carb yesterday. My numbers were good all day long and everything. They were actually really low(normal low) at night, which was not normal, but I'm doing okay except first thing in the morning.

Woke up with a 128. Any ideas on how to fix that? I seem to be doing well all the rest of the day, and my bs goes down as soon as I'm up and moving. My after breakfast reading is usually lower than my morning!

Angela
Be patient, keep doing what you are doing, and sometimes it comes down! I found the earlier I stop eating ANYthing at night, the better. Others find a small carb and protein or one or the other snack, at bedtime, is helpful.
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Initial A1c Feb 6 09: 12%
Aug 24 A1c (MD office) 5.5%
Jul ... C-pep 1.3, GAD-65 > 30

metformin 1000 mg BID
Simvastatin 80 mg
Ramipril 5 mg
T4 125 mcg
baby aspirin
Vitamin D3, 2000 IU (blood values normal, advised to continue this dose by endo)
CoQ10 100 mg
Eating 70 - 90 g carb per day
Interval training on recumbent cycle
BMI is down to ca. 25.8



According to Joslin's Diabetes, 2005 ed., 5 - 30% of those diagnosed as Type 2 actually have LADA.
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Old 11-03-2009, 10:10 AM
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Hi Angela:

My name is Georgia and I'm a carbaholic ( ). I had to go cold turkey, make a complete lifestyle change. The secret for me is eating frequently...every two hours or so I have a bite of cheese or a piece of broccoli. I'm NEVER hungry now and even though my carb intake is 15g a day (all of it vegetable) my cravings are few and far between (although I miss baking the bread and that warm wonderful smell...mmmmmm).

Believe me, I'm as surpised as anyone could be. I've never met a bread, pasta or rice dish I didn't adore. You can do it!
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:27 AM
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I have had a hard time with low carb. But this time I am determined. I am buying real butter and using it to cook veggies like squash, asparagus, mushrooms and even collard greens (I am Southern). Adding a variety of foods gets rid of some of the boredom of just eating meat.

I don't eat nuts anymore because I could eat the whole canister and that really was not low carb (probably about 60 grams). I don't even think about fruit or bread it is just not food that works for me.

Anyway good luck to you, it isn't easy but it will be worth it!! Keep as much variety as possible, that is the trick.
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:42 AM
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Anyway good luck to you, it isn't easy but it will be worth it!! Keep as much variety as possible, that is the trick.
I say this with 'tongue in cheek' -- but there really 'is no' variety without carbs as far as I'm concerned.. That's what makes it so hard..
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Hi Angela:

My name is Georgia and I'm a carbaholic ( ). I had to go cold turkey, make a complete lifestyle change. The secret for me is eating frequently...every two hours or so I have a bite of cheese or a piece of broccoli. I'm NEVER hungry now and even though my carb intake is 15g a day (all of it vegetable) my cravings are few and far between (although I miss baking the bread and that warm wonderful smell...mmmmmm).

Believe me, I'm as surpised as anyone could be. I've never met a bread, pasta or rice dish I didn't adore. You can do it!
I think it also fair to point out, as you've shared in other threads, Dis-n-Dat, you have suffered some pretty debilitating complications of D which have made for a 'powerful' motivator to make changes. Agreed? You wrote once:
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No improvement, the symptoms are still present and scale at 8 out of 10 now. Sleep is down to 30 minutes at a time. I'm exhausted, cranky and miserable. Arrrrggghhhh!
The problem with the rest of us which don't have such a battle with pain daily is that we wonder how 'far' we can push it. I know I struggle with that kind of thinking.
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