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11-03-2009, 06:32 AM
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I am a: Type 1.5 | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: KCMO
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| | | I cannot imagine such a sweeping statement being presented there.
WHAT is it that causes renal function decline in diet soda? Or is it even something related, such as behaviors or other food consumption by diet soda drinkers, but not actually IN the diet soda? WHICH artifical sweetener was in the diet soda?
Absolutely a waste of money.
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Linda
Feb 18 A1c 6.1 
Nov 30 A1c (MD office) 5.6% 
Jul 09 ... C-pep 1.3, GAD-65 > 30
Mar 10 C-pep 2.8 (20 g carb); GAD 3.2 
metformin 1000 mg BID
Simvastatin 80 mg
Ramipril 5 mg
T4 125 mcg
baby aspirin
Vitamin D3, 2000 IU
CoQ10 100 mg
Eating 70 - 90 g carb per day
Interval training on recumbent cycle
BMI is down to ca. 25.2
coming soon ... : Levemir We DID NOT eat our way here. |
11-04-2009, 05:14 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: West Babylon, NY
Posts: 704
| | | They can take my beta cells. They can take my candy. They can even take my bread and pasta. But they can pry my can of Diet Pepsi out of my cold, dead hand!
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Amanda
misdiagnosed type 2 8/2007
rediagnosed type 1 8/2008
Pumping since 11/2008!!
Purple Minimed 722 named Barney
Other Meds:
Yaz
Elavil (10mg at night)
Metformin 1000mg 2x/day
a1c 8.3% 9/9/08  a1C 7.4 1/17/09 (better, as I stabilize) a1c 7.3 6/09 (frickin' IR) a1c 6.7 1/6/10 (FINALLY under 7!!! Now to try for under 6.5!)
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11-04-2009, 05:18 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Feb 2009
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Originally Posted by GeishaGirl  They can take my beta cells. They can take my candy. They can even take my bread and pasta. But they can pry my can of Diet Pepsi out of my cold, dead hand! | I LOVE it!
This reply too short ...
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Barrie
Dx T2 Sept 1999
Latest A1c 6.3
Metformin 2500 mg
Gemfibrozil 600 mg
Lantus 16 units
Ramipril 10 mg
Crestor 20 mg
Multivitamin, B-12, D-3
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11-05-2009, 04:47 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 608
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Originally Posted by GeishaGirl They can take my beta cells. They can take my candy. They can even take my bread and pasta. But they can pry my can of Diet Pepsi out of my cold, dead hand! | here here  
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Oct 09 A1c 6.2%
April 09 A1c 6.2%
Dec 08 A1c 6.2%
Sept 08 A1c 7.5%
June 08 A1c 8.5%
Diagnosed: June 08
Metformin 1000mg twice daily
Glypizide 2.5mg occassionaly when I want to eat lots of carbs
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11-05-2009, 04:52 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 6,507
| | Take your hands off me you dam dirty dietitian..! 
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51 year old male, Metabolic Syndrome Dx Mar. 2003 "This junk food has got to go... it's full of chemicals, trans-fats and hard pore corn!"
We lose over 70% of our body heat through our heads.. so be sure to seal up any large openings!
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11-05-2009, 07:32 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Massachusetts, USA
Posts: 675
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Originally Posted by NewdestinyX It's all just a bunch of scare tactic nonsense so many times - depending on the 'funder' of the study. These studies are so 'poorly' executed sometimes. We're all going to die of failing health one day. Hey - if you can make some changes and hedge your bets -- do it.. More power to you. But when the frikin' New England journal of Medicine comes out with 4 studies in 2 years first saying wine in bad then good then bad then good..... I get a little nervous that I can't trust ANY of these studies. The same thing has happened with coffee and milk chocolate in the last 5 years... YEs, good! No, bad!!! I thought they called it 'science' - not 'art'.. | Frustrating, isn't it? I often have the same opinion of the medical community's handling of people with D. I think we really have to educate ourselves and follow our gut...and our heart... in many instances.
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* A1c: 05/27/09: 6.6
* A1c: 10/23/09: 6.1
* A1c: 01/21/10: 6.0
* Home FBGs now 93 -116
* Failed the OGTT; 288 at 2 hrs.  The only other time I hit 200+ was when I ate the ADA suggested oatmeal for breakfast
* Diagnosed 5/27/09
* Metformin XR (500 @ AM & PM)
* NatureMade Pack/Diabetes Support
* 81 mg. aspirin
* Low(er) Carb & More Motion (53 lbs off so far!) |
11-05-2009, 07:34 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Massachusetts, USA
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Originally Posted by GeishaGirl They can take my beta cells. They can take my candy. They can even take my bread and pasta. But they can pry my can of Diet Pepsi out of my cold, dead hand! | THANK YOU for the giggle, GeishaGirl! You've made my morning...
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* A1c: 05/27/09: 6.6
* A1c: 10/23/09: 6.1
* A1c: 01/21/10: 6.0
* Home FBGs now 93 -116
* Failed the OGTT; 288 at 2 hrs. The only other time I hit 200+ was when I ate the ADA suggested oatmeal for breakfast
* Diagnosed 5/27/09
* Metformin XR (500 @ AM & PM)
* NatureMade Pack/Diabetes Support
* 81 mg. aspirin
* Low(er) Carb & More Motion (53 lbs off so far!) |
11-05-2009, 07:39 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northeast USA
Posts: 1,389
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Originally Posted by GeishaGirl They can take my beta cells. They can take my candy. They can even take my bread and pasta. But they can pry my can of Diet Pepsi out of my cold, dead hand! | HERE! HERE!!!!!  |
11-05-2009, 07:44 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northeast USA
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Originally Posted by Hammer Thirty years ago I heard that drinking soda gave you an increased risk of kidney problems. A co-worker developed kidney stones and his doctor told him to stop drinking so many colas and switch to water. The water is what is needed to prevent kidney stones, and the various acids in cola helped to create kidney stones. If this is true, then just drink a bottle of water after you drunk a bottle of diet soda....that should equal things out.  | *sigh* -- Tannic acid + Calcium = kidney stones; it's what they're made of. Watch the amount of 'tea-based' and 'milk products' you consume and drink a lot of water. A little off-topic I know.. Yes, I also know that other conditions in the body can lead to kidney stone problems as well. |
11-05-2009, 07:48 AM
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I am a: Type 1.5 | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: KCMO
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Originally Posted by NewdestinyX *sigh* -- Tannic acid + Calcium = kidney stones; it's what they're made of. Watch the amount of 'tea-based' and 'milk products' you consume and drink a lot of water. A little off-topic I know.. Yes, I also know that other conditions in the body can lead to kidney stone problems as well. | Tannic acid is in tea, but most sodas contain phosphoric or citric.
Phosphoric is the one most implicated in renal stones.
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Feb 18 A1c 6.1
Nov 30 A1c (MD office) 5.6%
Jul 09 ... C-pep 1.3, GAD-65 > 30
Mar 10 C-pep 2.8 (20 g carb); GAD 3.2
metformin 1000 mg BID
Simvastatin 80 mg
Ramipril 5 mg
T4 125 mcg
baby aspirin
Vitamin D3, 2000 IU
CoQ10 100 mg
Eating 70 - 90 g carb per day
Interval training on recumbent cycle
BMI is down to ca. 25.2
coming soon ... : Levemir We DID NOT eat our way here. |
11-05-2009, 07:55 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Missouri Ozarks
Posts: 2,749
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Originally Posted by NewdestinyX *sigh* -- Tannic acid + Calcium = kidney stones; it's what they're made of. Watch the amount of 'tea-based' and 'milk products' you consume and drink a lot of water. A little off-topic I know.. Yes, I also know that other conditions in the body can lead to kidney stone problems as well. | OT on:
All kidney stones are not calcium.
Calcium stones are the most common type, accounting for 75 to 85 percent of all stones.
* Most of these stones consist of calcium oxalate, or a combination of calcium oxalate and phosphate.
* Their formation is linked to high levels of urinary calcium, or a combination of calcium and uric acid, in the urine.
Struvite stones make up 10 to 15 percent of all kidney stones. Because these stones can be quite large, they can cause serious symptoms.
* Struvite stones are formed because of infection by specific bacteria, which throws off the balance of acid in the urine.
* These stones are mainly composed of ammonium and magnesium phosphate and resemble hard crystals.
Uric acid stones are relatively uncommon, accounting for 5 to 8 percent of all stones.
* A high level of uric acid in the blood and urine can cause this type of stone.
* They can form if a person's urine becomes concentrated with certain dissolved substances that may make it more acidic.
OT off.
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