Diabetes issues not related to blood glucose - Page 2

foxl · #16 (**permalink**) 11-06-2009, 08:24 AM

Isolated? No. Frustrated? Yes.

My Endo does not understand if I eat 40 g car b per meal I would use up my insulin reserve and have a much higher A1c than she would like, and I do not want to compromise my health by PROVING it to her.

She is not giving me insulin (low dose would be appropriate to preserve beta cell mass) despite antibodies and a low-normal C-peptide. I would like to be able to bolus for an OCCASIONAL carb-y meal, but that is not on the books, evidently. So, I do not get to eat out, ever. That is about the only problem though ...

And Frank is right -- we are here because we consider seeking information -- and friendship -- more important than any negative feelings about D, or secrecy.

jillybean · #17 (**permalink**) 11-06-2009, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by foxl

I would like to be able to bolus for an OCCASIONAL carb-y meal, but that is not on the books, evidently. So, I do not get to eat out, ever. That is about the only problem though ...

Honey, you can still eat out! I ate out EVERY day while sticking to 15g total carbs per DAY. My favorite indulgence was steak (prime rib especially) with a non-starchy veggie side (broccoli, usually) and a side salad, no croutons, creamy dressing.

foxl · #18 (**permalink**) 11-06-2009, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jillybean

Honey, you can still eat out! I ate out EVERY day while sticking to 15g total carbs per DAY. My favorite indulgence was steak (prime rib especially) with a non-starchy veggie side (broccoli, usually) and a side salad, no croutons, creamy dressing.

Jilly, I am a VEGETARIAN of 37 years' standing ... add low-carbing onto that, and what can I get ... a cheese omelet. Which I love ... but 3 per day is not sooo tasty, even with side veg, you know?

georgepds · #19 (**permalink**) 11-06-2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Granny Shanny

Depends who you ask!

I was just answering his questions:

Sorry, I did not mean to suggest you were trolling, I agree with you ( nope nope and nope)

The question is "is the original post a troll"

--G

Granny Shanny · #20 (**permalink**) 11-06-2009, 02:07 PM

Thanks, George . . . my fuzzy brain at work again!

jenb · #21 (**permalink**) 11-06-2009, 02:51 PM

I'm in agreement with those who say No, No and No.

As for food, I've never been anywhere where I could not join in the festivities - there's always something I can eat. AND, all my friends are aware of my diabetes; they've been great about trying to make low carb and protein foods available at social functions.

Jen

rak1978 · #22 (**permalink**) 11-06-2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by foxl

Isolated? No. Frustrated? Yes.

My Endo does not understand if I eat 40 g car b per meal I would use up my insulin reserve and have a much higher A1c than she would like, and I do not want to compromise my health by PROVING it to her.

She is not giving me insulin (low dose would be appropriate to preserve beta cell mass) despite antibodies and a low-normal C-peptide. I would like to be able to bolus for an OCCASIONAL carb-y meal, but that is not on the books, evidently. So, I do not get to eat out, ever. That is about the only problem though ...

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Linda,
I know that all endo's are different, but mine prescribed insulin for me to use on an as needed basis (before I was on basal) when he thought I was a type 2. I was pretty uneducated and resistant to taking it (my denial period!). He actually had to persuade me to start taking it. I would only start taking it if he did an antibody test to confirm type 1, so he did and sure enough I was type 1...so I started taking it (how's that for a run-on sentence?). Now I'm on close to 40 units a day. Anyway, I think if you really feel that it's the right time for you to start, you can find an endo who would agree.

Rachel

JerriAnn · #23 (**permalink**) 11-06-2009, 04:52 PM

No. Just eat. Less of what they have. Take a dish to share that you can eat and enjoy. Do exercise after you get home. I am sure not going to sit home and miss out being with friends.

I always take something to drink as well for me and any
one else that would like a diet drink. No one ever
questions why.

Jerri

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Originally Posted by xMenace

There is much of this in the world of diabetes, but I think most veterans of this community would emphatically say no, no, and no. I certainly do. Life is good when you're filled with knowledge, support, and experience -- empowered!

jillybean · #24 (**permalink**) 11-06-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by foxl

Jilly, I am a VEGETARIAN...

Okay, well, that DOES throw a wrench in the works!

Is2sew · #25 (**permalink**) 11-08-2009, 08:41 AM

I have done well in the social element of my diabetes and will adapt to the food choices when offered. If needed, I will adjust my carb intake to help with BG readings. It's a challenge at times, but I feel I have done pretty well.

Ok, what is a troll?

Moonglo · #26 (**permalink**) 11-08-2009, 08:46 AM

No, no, and no.

In fact, on some small level, my diagnosis has helped me with one of my friends. She loves to have dh and I over for dinner, and most of her cooking includes many ingredients that I don't like, that also happen to be just a little too starcy. So I now have a good reason to bring my own food, and she understands that it's more about my dietary needs than about whether or not I like her cooking

Granny Shanny · #27 (**permalink**) 11-08-2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonglo

No, no, and no.

In fact, on some small level, my diagnosis has helped me with one of my friends. She loves to have dh and I over for dinner, and most of her cooking includes many ingredients that I don't like, that also happen to be just a little too starcy. So I now have a good reason to bring my own food, and she understands that it's more about my dietary needs than about whether or not I like her cooking

You rascal you! hee hee hee . . .

EeyoreButterfly · #28 (**permalink**) 11-08-2009, 09:29 AM

When I am a at a friend's house, I find something I can eat. I either take smaller helpings of the carbs, or stick with whatever proteins are provided.

As far as the rest of it... Yes I do feel ashamed and guilty. When I quit performing, I let myself get fat. Intellectually I know that there is more to it than that, but emotionally I feel worthless. I gave it to myself and now I am living with the consquences. It doesn't help that it feels like no doctor will take you seriously because you are young (I am 25) and "only" have prediabetes.

Moonglo · #29 (**permalink**) 11-08-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Granny Shanny

You rascal you! hee hee hee . . .

Granny, I knew you'd appreciate that!

Seriously, though, I think I may have gone through a brief period where I felt bad about being diabetic... and if I'm in a depressive funk, which happens a few times a year, I imagine that'll be one more issue that I become temporarily bitter about. But in general, I have come to see diabetes as more of a wakeup call than a death sentence. I will not die thirty minutes later if I eat a piece of pizza, for example. But if I do eat that pizza, and don't limit my portions and exercise after the fact, it will hurt my morning numbers, and then I just have to remind myself that I made the choice to accept a higher reading this morning and promise to do better.

I think many would agree with me in saying that, if we're choosing to take care of ourselves, then there's nothing to feel bitter about, because we're making choices that allow us to live longer and happier lives.

And all of my friends know I'm diabetic, and they know how little variety of foods I like, so there's absolutely zero awkwardness about my eating in front of them, because they all know me well enough to know how I am; and if they insist on judging me for my eating habits, how great of a friend are they anyways?

Moonglo · #30 (**permalink**) 11-08-2009, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by EeyoreButterfly

When I am a at a friend's house, I find something I can eat. I either take smaller helpings of the carbs, or stick with whatever proteins are provided.

As far as the rest of it... Yes I do feel ashamed and guilty. When I quit performing, I let myself get fat. Intellectually I know that there is more to it than that, but emotionally I feel worthless. I gave it to myself and now I am living with the consquences. It doesn't help that it feels like no doctor will take you seriously because you are young (I am 25) and "only" have prediabetes.

I do know what you mean here. I am 26, and one of the doctors in the practice I go to (my normal gp was on maternity leave) told me that a fbg of 140 was "not bad." I was floored. I guess that in a doctor's eyes, anyone who is making any efforts to take care of themselves is ahead of the game, because they probably see so many people daily who expect the doctor to do all the work while the patient sits back and benefits from it... and diabetes is just not a disease that works that way. I can only imagine what a breath of fresh air it must be to see a patient who is actually trying, and how easy it must be to subconsciously worry less for them than for the others.

It's kinda like how, in education, the gifted kids often times are not served as well as the special education kids, because the mentality is, "they're smart, so they'll be okay no matter where we put them." This way of thinking is not right, but it's easy to fall into that trap when one has so many other issues to worry about on a daily basis that have more immediate consequences if they are not dealt with.

Doesn't make it right, but I think that's the basic thought process.