[MCS]

Anyone else have trouble with thier eyes at slighty elevated BG levels.

I have been at a constant 120-150 for a week now and am having real trouble seeing anything.

Im aware that I usually go anywhere from 120-140 after a meal but it is usually only for a short time. I am wondering if it is the extended time of slightly elevated BG levels thats the culprit.

[princesslinda]

If my blood sugar gets above 150, i'll notice a blurring, almost like looking through plastic.

About 6 months before diagnosis, I was having difficulty seeing, went to the ophthalmologist...he fitted me with bifocals and stronger glasses and told me it as just a part of aging. Never once mentioned the possibility of diabetes.

I see a new ophthalmologist now, and have a much weaker Rx for my glasses. Still gets blurry when i'm high though.

[MCS]

Thanks, I was telling my wife that I think my eyes have become overly sensitive to slighty elevated BG levels. I was thinking I was on to something.

Originally Posted by princesslinda

If my blood sugar gets above 150, i'll notice a blurring, almost like looking through plastic.

About 6 months before diagnosis, I was having difficulty seeing, went to the ophthalmologist...he fitted me with bifocals and stronger glasses and told me it as just a part of aging. Never once mentioned the possibility of diabetes.

I see a new ophthalmologist now, and have a much weaker Rx for my glasses. Still gets blurry when i'm high though.

[ramon]

Originally Posted by MCS

Anyone else have trouble with thier eyes at slighty elevated BG levels.

I have been at a constant 120-150 for a week now and am having real trouble seeing anything.

Im aware that I usually go anywhere from 120-140 after a meal but it is usually only for a short time. I am wondering if it is the extended time of slightly elevated BG levels thats the culprit.

That's how I was diagnosed with D. After swimming in the pool one day my vision became real blurry. I thought my sister put to many chemicals in the pool. A week later I went to the optometrist and she sent me for a bg test and sure enough. Sometimes I can read without my specs but rely on them now.

[cherokee_psh]

My vision is blurred when I am over 150 as well. Snappy and drowsy too.

[NewdestinyX]

Me too, MCS..
I get this blurred jelly sense to my vision.. It feels like there's a jelly on my eye I can't get off..

I had gone to get a new prescription before my dx as well and the power of distance and reading both had gone up significantly.. SInce my control has started -- these glasses are WAY too strong now.. Feel bug eyed.. My Optometrist said same thing as Linda's... Just getting old.. But when I get up to the 150 range too even fro a few hours -- they get weird again.. So it's all about the Diabetes... I was blown away how MUCH the eyes are affected.. The extra BGlucose makes the focussing mechanism dysfunction.. That's what's happening physiologically. My GP told me about it.. Remember when you were in better control with the numbers how you said your glasses were too strong now.. Same thing for me.. I have to go back to my old ones..

Unlike a couple of others have said.. I feel GREAT when my sugar is high.. Very relaxed and chilled.. That's what got me INTO this mess. I dealt with HYPO GLYCEMIA as a child and HATED that feeling.. When I get hypo-ish (which for me feels wrong about 75-80) that's the worse feeling. My feet and hands do tingle a bit when I'm high so I prefer not to be high too much either.. 90-125 and I feel just fine..

[MCS]

Just wanting to be sure nothing else is going wrong.

Originally Posted by NewdestinyX

Me too, MCS..
I get this blurred jelly sense to my vision.. It feels like there's a jelly on my eye I can't get off..

I had gone to get a new prescription before my dx as well and the power of distance and reading both had gone up significantly.. SInce my control has started -- these glasses are WAY too strong now.. Feel bug eyed.. My Optometrist said same thing as Linda's... Just getting old.. But when I get up to the 150 range too even fro a few hours -- they get weird again.. So it's all about the Diabetes... I was blown away how MUCH the eyes are affected.. The extra BGlucose makes the focussing mechanism dysfunction.. That's what's happening physiologically. My GP told me about it.. Remember when you were in better control with the numbers how you said your glasses were too strong now.. Same thing for me.. I have to go back to my old ones..

Unlike a couple of others have said.. I feel GREAT when my sugar is high.. Very relaxed and chilled.. That's what got me INTO this mess. I dealt with HYPO GLYCEMIA as a child and HATED that feeling.. When I get hypo-ish (which for me feels wrong about 75-80) that's the worse feeling. My feet and hands do tingle a bit when I'm high so I prefer not to be high too much either.. 90-125 and I feel just fine..

[bunbury]

Originally Posted by NewdestinyX

I feel GREAT when my sugar is high.. Very relaxed and chilled.. That's what got me INTO this mess. I dealt with HYPO GLYCEMIA as a child and HATED that feeling.. When I get hypo-ish (which for me feels wrong about 75-80) that's the worse feeling. My feet and hands do tingle a bit when I'm high so I prefer not to be high too much either.. 90-125 and I feel just fine..

I'll just speak from personal experience - so this may not apply to you. When my BGs were running consistently high I too thought I felt fine on it. I also felt ill/light-headed and disorientated if my BGs fell to levels that in anyone else would be considered 'normal'. This was because my body had grown accustomed to running at BG levels high enough to send me to an early grave. Whatever I felt like, I was in fact ill.

It took some time, but once I had got my numbers down and kept them down, I eventually felt just fine with 'normal' BGs. I also feel a lot better than I did when my BGs were high and I had thought I was OK - and wasn't.

It's not until we get control that we can recognize that feeling 'fine' when high and bad when low for what is: a dangerous illusion.

YMMV - maybe this isn't the case for you, but it was for me and a lot of T2s.

[bunbury]

Originally Posted by bunbury

It's not until we get control that we can recognize that feeling 'fine' when high and bad when low for what is: a dangerous illusion.

YMMV - maybe this isn't the case for you, but it was for me and a lot of T2s.

Apologies - I'm guilty of some sloppy writing. I meant to say:

"It's not until we get control that we can recognize that feeling 'fine' when high and bad when normal for what is: a dangerous illusion."

[NewdestinyX]

Originally Posted by bunbury

I'll just speak from personal experience - so this may not apply to you. When my BGs were running consistently high I too thought I felt fine on it. I also felt ill/light-headed and disorientated if my BGs fell to levels that in anyone else would be considered 'normal'. This was because my body had grown accustomed to running at BG levels high enough to send me to an early grave. Whatever I felt like, I was in fact ill.

It took some time, but once I had got my numbers down and kept them down, I eventually felt just fine with 'normal' BGs. I also feel a lot better than I did when my BGs were high and I had thought I was OK - and wasn't.

It's not until we get control that we can recognize that feeling 'fine' when high and bad when low for what is: a dangerous illusion.

YMMV - maybe this isn't the case for you, but it was for me and a lot of T2s.

I actually agree with you on this, Bunbury. I am adjusting to this 'new feeling' and am still just 4 months into the journey. I guess what I was trying to emphasize is that 'at any point' in this journey -- 'chilled and relaxed (and a little tingly in the feet)' will ALWAYS feel better than nervous, anxious, shakey, sweaty and ready to hit someone who crosses you. If I'm going to 'off on my numbers' I'd rather be 'high' than 'low' -- for any given moment -- and not for any long term period and not for my health obviously..

Of course the best place is to be in a healthy range where you're neither tingly in your feet and blurry in your vision (still happens to me if my sugar's high) nor shakey and sweaty. And that's a place we all strive for. For me - at this point if I'm not between 90-125 all day long I'm not satisfied. There are times, well knowing that it'll cost me a 165 or 170, I eat something because I 'choose to'. I will never give up that 'freedom' and it will have 'no consequences' on my health if it's a rare occurrence.

And I guess that's my little Thanksgiving encouragement to all my brothers and sisters "in arms" here -- Enjoy the 'heck' out of Thanksgiving eating some things 'off the beaten trail' for you. We ALL need a break from the regimen -- and we should darn well feel the freedom to take it... (wow didn't expect to get on the soap box there)..

But we agree, Bunbury.. Healthy is best.. For sure!

[NewdestinyX]

Last night I got a pleasant surprise.

PreDinner = 110 (late afternoon grainy snack)
Dinner: Salad, Chicken Parm Sandwich(no roll) and fries, and a glass of Pinot Grigio White Wine
2hrPP= 99

I guess the wine and the melted provolone all help ritard any carb absorption.. I ended up having a cup of coffee and half and half and my last SF oatmeal raisin cookie at about the 1.5 hour mark -- and then 2hrs after that dessert, which was bedtime, was 133. That was expected.. I can't get these cookies again.. The ChocChip by the same company are fine.. But anything grain based doesn't work for me at all.. even if it's sugar free -- too spikey. I think some of the fat from the fries and provolone cheese was still digesting by bed time and helped soften the spike of the cookie... Those same cookies in combination with a lower carb dinner the other night sent me to 154. Live and learn. Eat to my meter -- yes, yes.. Notice how little you've seen LATTE on my meal list of late... I CAN be taught.. and it's OH, OH so painful..

[bunbury]

Originally Posted by NewdestinyX

I guess what I was trying to emphasize is that 'at any point' in this journey -- 'chilled and relaxed (and a little tingly in the feet)' will ALWAYS feel better than nervous, anxious, shakey, sweaty and ready to hit someone who crosses you. If I'm going to 'off on my numbers' I'd rather be 'high' than 'low' -- for any given moment -- and not for any long term period and not for my health obviously..

I don't think we are agreeing. What I am suggesting is that when T2s are high and feeling good about it, it is because our bodies have become accustomed to high BGs. We feel OK, but the high-BGs are killing us.

If we feel "nervous, anxious, shakey, sweaty and ready to hit someone" when we are in a 'normal' BG range then this is most likely to be a symptom of Diabetes and a body that's been running high BGs for too long - not a warning that our BGs are dangerously low - so I don't think it's wise to keep BGs higher to keep the feelings at bay.

IMO, once BGs are under control the 'need' for higher BGs will go.

YMMV.

Back on the OP's topic: You are also talking about blurred vision "when I get up to the 150 range too even for a few hours" .... A few hours?

[NewdestinyX]

Originally Posted by bunbury

I don't think we are agreeing. What I am suggesting is that when T2s are high and feeling good about it, it is because our bodies have become accustomed to high BGs. We feel OK, but the high-BGs are killing us.

If we feel "nervous, anxious, shakey, sweaty and ready to hit someone" when we are in a 'normal' BG range then this is most likely to be a symptom of Diabetes and a body that's been running high BGs for too long - not a warning that our BGs are dangerously low - so I don't think it's wise to keep BGs higher to keep the feelings at bay.

IMO, once BGs are under control the 'need' for higher BGs will go.

We are in complete agreement that Higher BG's have a certain feeling to them and that feeling, a good one, is actually killing us. We are in definite agreement. Where we differ I think is that even when our numbers readjust to good.. Higher, to me, still feels WAY better than LOW. I think it does for anyone. YMMV of course. I've been in normal range now for about 30 days. That's not long.. At first a 95 felt shakey.. It does not anymore.. I am adjusting. GREAT!! BUT -- 61 feels miserable and I will do anything in my power to NEVER get there. Where I have near ZERO problem is at 150, in the way it feels (except the blurry vision). Maybe others feel awful there. What I'm saying is that I still feel fine at 150 for a couple hours... better than 61.. Even now that my body's been pretty normal for a month (for a Dbtic). 'All' of us would feel 'bad' at having that 'number'.. but that's a different topic entirely.

Back on the OP's topic: You are also talking about blurred vision "when I get up to the 150 range too even for a few hours" .... A few hours?

Well -- 1.5 hours? If I eat a little too carby I can get up to 150 by 2hrPP and stay there, recovering slowly for another 1.5 hours.. But I can tell when I'm that high by my vision.. And THAT'S a feeling of high I DO NOT like..