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11-20-2009, 09:19 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: South Carolina
Posts: 1,655
| | | What insulin should I use Going to see the doc tuesday. I am thinking I should hold off the supps for awhile, let things kinda settle down a bit.
So what I will propose to him is wrting me a script for insulin just so I can regain some better control quicker. Been near 140-150 all week.
Any ideas
They had me on a main line of glucose directly into my caroitid artery, attached with that was some slow acting insulin. So to say the least everything is kinda of out of whack
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Bitter Melon, Vanadyl Sulfate
Chromium Pichnolate, Gymnema Sylvestre
Amino Acids, Vitamins Bx, C, D, E
Hi-Maize 260, Ground and Whole Flax Seed
COQ10, Magnesium, Potassium, Calcium
Zinc, Selenium, Fish Oil
Alpha-Lipoic-Acid, Biotin, ACAI Berry
Avoiding refined carbs
Beta Blocker, Statin, Lisinopril
Lantus 20-30 units a day
A1C 5.6, 4.8,
Quadruple by-pass surgery 11/18/09, my new life began! I am on a journey and happy for the ride, all aboard | 
11-20-2009, 09:47 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Massachusetts, USA
Posts: 640
| | | My MD , when asked, said she would suggest Lantus if I/we decided to put me on insulin temporarily to give my pancreas a break. Unsure if this helps.
Glad you're back and essentially okay.
__________________ * A1c: 05/27/09: 6.6
* A1c: 10/23/09: 6.1
* A1c: 01/21/10: 6.0
* Home FBGs now 93 -109
* Failed the OGTT; 288 at 2 hrs. The only other time I hit 200+ was when I ate the ADA suggested oatmeal for breakfast
* Diagnosed 5/27/09.
* Metformin XR (500 @ AM & PM).
* NatureMade Pack/Diabetes Support
* 81 mg. aspirin
* Low(er) Carb & More Motion (50 lbs off so far!) | 
11-20-2009, 11:20 PM
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Posts: 919
| | | This doesn't seem to high, ask him about Januvia cause its supposed to stop you from sliding to low as well. Anyway try what he says and if you don't like the results after a couple months try something else. | 
11-21-2009, 05:45 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Michigan
Posts: 657
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by MCS So what I will propose to him is wrting me a script for insulin just so I can regain some better control quicker. Been near 140-150 all week.
Any ideas
| You have a great A1C, why not just try metformin first? I didn't see that in your list of meds? 140-150 is not horrible, my doc would not have started me on Lantus with those numbers......but if he wants you on insulin Lantus is supposed to be the best one. Not real sure about that.
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A1C Dec 2009 5.7
Lantus 15 units split dose
Novolog as needed
Metformin 2000mg | 
11-21-2009, 05:46 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Michigan
Posts: 657
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Originally Posted by ramon This doesn't seem to high, ask him about Januvia cause its supposed to stop you from sliding to low as well. Anyway try what he says and if you don't like the results after a couple months try something else. | Oh yeah! I was doing great on met and januvia until my insurance would not pay for the januvia anymore. Enter Insulin. ugh! Stupid insurance co.
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A1C Dec 2009 5.7
Lantus 15 units split dose
Novolog as needed
Metformin 2000mg | 
11-21-2009, 07:20 AM
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I am a: Type 1.5 | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: KCMO
Posts: 7,265
| | | On diagnosis they used insulin on me for 2 days, then put me on Actoplusmet and Glimepiride, at discharge. Glimepiride can cause lows ... but it quickly got me down, at one pill, then 1/2 pill, per day. Took it in the morning so I would be up if I went low. I did.
But yeah, I agree, 140- 150 is not that high -- I was about that high with FLU.
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Linda Nov 30 A1c (MD office) 5.6%
Jul ... C-pep 1.3, GAD-65 > 30 metformin 1000 mg BID
Simvastatin 80 mg
Ramipril 5 mg
T4 125 mcg
baby aspirin
Vitamin D3, 2000 IU (blood values normal, advised to continue this dose by endo)
CoQ10 100 mg
Eating 70 - 90 g carb per day
Interval training on recumbent cycle
BMI is down to ca. 25.2 I am my OWN biology experiment | 
11-21-2009, 07:24 AM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: South Carolina
Posts: 1,655
| | Went 165 last night for no reason, woke up at 145. Can't seem to get a handle on this. Quote:
Originally Posted by foxl On diagnosis they used insulin on me for 2 days, then put me on Actoplusmet and Glimepiride, at discharge. Glimepiride can cause lows ... but it quickly got me down, at one pill, then 1/2 pill, per day. Took it in the morning so I would be up if I went low. I did.
But yeah, I agree, 140- 150 is not that high -- I was about that high with FLU. |
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Bitter Melon, Vanadyl Sulfate
Chromium Pichnolate, Gymnema Sylvestre
Amino Acids, Vitamins Bx, C, D, E
Hi-Maize 260, Ground and Whole Flax Seed
COQ10, Magnesium, Potassium, Calcium
Zinc, Selenium, Fish Oil
Alpha-Lipoic-Acid, Biotin, ACAI Berry
Avoiding refined carbs
Beta Blocker, Statin, Lisinopril
Lantus 20-30 units a day
A1C 5.6, 4.8,
Quadruple by-pass surgery 11/18/09, my new life began! I am on a journey and happy for the ride, all aboard | 
11-21-2009, 07:28 AM
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I am a: Type 1.5 | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: KCMO
Posts: 7,265
| | | As a research asst in a lab, I learned that even general anesthetic has a tremendous effect on adrenal release of cortisol/cortisone. And of course that affects gluconeogenesis.
Marty, you have been through a lot -- including maxing out your adrenals. I know for day-to-day control that is not what you want for yourself, but, be PATIENT.
Took me over a MONTH to bring my fastings down after flu and a sinus infection!
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Linda Nov 30 A1c (MD office) 5.6%
Jul ... C-pep 1.3, GAD-65 > 30 metformin 1000 mg BID
Simvastatin 80 mg
Ramipril 5 mg
T4 125 mcg
baby aspirin
Vitamin D3, 2000 IU (blood values normal, advised to continue this dose by endo)
CoQ10 100 mg
Eating 70 - 90 g carb per day
Interval training on recumbent cycle
BMI is down to ca. 25.2 I am my OWN biology experiment | 
11-21-2009, 08:25 AM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 5,044
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Originally Posted by MCS Going to see the doc tuesday. I am thinking I should hold off the supps for awhile, let things kinda settle down a bit.
So what I will propose to him is wrting me a script for insulin just so I can regain some better control quicker. Been near 140-150 all week.
Any ideas
They had me on a main line of glucose directly into my caroitid artery, attached with that was some slow acting insulin. So to say the least everything is kinda of out of whack | Answering to the question in your title, and assuming you are talking long acting or basal, there are two alternatives with clear benefits, being Lantus and Levemir. Lantus is longer acting for most and more even. Levemir less so, but of the same generation of insulins. I far prefer Levemir for myself. Why? Less side effects for me, and the curviness actually helps me match to my curvy needs.
So if your basal needs are relatively even, Lantus would seem an obvious choice. if that's not so great for any reason, Levemir is a good alternative to try, probably definitely needing 2 doses through the day. Beyond that, long acting insulin options are older and generally, shorter in their action and trickier to deal with.
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11-21-2009, 12:16 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: South Carolina
Posts: 1,655
| | Thanks Subby, I was thinking towards the Lantus, from what I have read.
I believe it was the glucose drip in the ICU that maxed out my pancreas Quote:
Originally Posted by Subby Answering to the question in your title, and assuming you are talking long acting or basal, there are two alternatives with clear benefits, being Lantus and Levemir. Lantus is longer acting for most and more even. Levemir less so, but of the same generation of insulins. I far prefer Levemir for myself. Why? Less side effects for me, and the curviness actually helps me match to my curvy needs.
So if your basal needs are relatively even, Lantus would seem an obvious choice. if that's not so great for any reason, Levemir is a good alternative to try, probably definitely needing 2 doses through the day. Beyond that, long acting insulin options are older and generally, shorter in their action and trickier to deal with. |
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Bitter Melon, Vanadyl Sulfate
Chromium Pichnolate, Gymnema Sylvestre
Amino Acids, Vitamins Bx, C, D, E
Hi-Maize 260, Ground and Whole Flax Seed
COQ10, Magnesium, Potassium, Calcium
Zinc, Selenium, Fish Oil
Alpha-Lipoic-Acid, Biotin, ACAI Berry
Avoiding refined carbs
Beta Blocker, Statin, Lisinopril
Lantus 20-30 units a day
A1C 5.6, 4.8,
Quadruple by-pass surgery 11/18/09, my new life began! I am on a journey and happy for the ride, all aboard |  | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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