[sbuff28@charter]

Dewey-

I have no doubt that it would help the cancer pateints! HAVENING been a persistant majuana smoker for some time (not so much recently) i can relate to them because i have expeirenced the effects of marijuana. Eating food, nausea, headaches... It definatly helps me in those areas, even if i might not need it! But , i guess people that can't realate to it wont understand and just go with a SOMEONES opinion (i could ususally find another oppisite saying no) that marjuana is bad and has no medicial value.

Granted it again is give and take..... People expirence it and say yes.. IT works!!!..does the reprucussions of marijuana addictivness and blah blah weight out to the effect medicinally?????..... WHO is THE JUDGE OF THAT.. HOW do i APPLY??

no one can judge that but the medical pateint themselves... i say if it works and its not soley based on "gettin high" they want it why not.

[BriOnH]

Originally Posted by sbuff28@charter

Dewey-

I have no doubt that it would help the cancer pateints! HAVENING been a persistant majuana smoker for some time (not so much recently) i can relate to them because i have expeirenced the effects of marijuana. Eating food, nausea, headaches... It definatly helps me in those areas, even if i might not need it! But , i guess people that can't realate to it wont understand and just go with a SOMEONES opinion (i could ususally find another oppisite saying no) that marjuana is bad and has no medicial value.

Granted it again is give and take..... People expirence it and say yes.. IT works!!!..does the reprucussions of marijuana addictivness and blah blah weight out to the effect medicinally?????..... WHO is THE JUDGE OF THAT.. HOW do i APPLY??

no one can judge that but the medical pateint themselves... i say if it works and its not soley based on "gettin high" they want it why not.

It should just be legalized, like the alcohol arguements, it's just modern prohibition. If a person with cancer wants to get high, effin let them. Who cares if it works medically or not, if it makes them feel better, why shoud anyone care? If I want to go smoke a bowl responsibility why should anyone care?

If it were legal I think arguments on weed would be more fact based. Right now, in the american weed debate both locally, long distance, and here to an extent, we have the majority of the stoners throwing up myths(remember a myth = a truth telling story) as to why it is harmless to smoke, and the ones that don't want legal throwing up 'what if' scenerios as to why it needs to be illegal, and then what seems to be the majority of the population who just dont care or mind.

Alcohol went through this exact same transition. Medical arguemnts were thrown out for its use, people throwing out similar arguements of why it should be legal why it shouldnt (granted the reasons are different but the transistion is still the same) Surely if we can legalize alcohol, weed should be a piece of cake.

A piece of chocalate cake, with ice cream, and a large diet pepsi.

[TenderVittleS]

It amazes me how a person diagnosed with diabetes less than a month ago can be such a professional with this case, if you haven't tried it than don't talk about it. You've only watched from the outside like a referee.

[Intrigue]

Sbuff -- interesting you would automatically conclude my post was "one sided." No one sidedness here. I dislike sharing my personal life in open forums such as this one, but suffice it to say I struggled with my own drug addiction in the past....which started with marijuana. Thus my conclusions are neither one sided nor unsubstantiated. The fact that I am personally experienced with addiction allows me to not only be a better counselor, but heightens my resolve to live a clean and sober life, honor my body and seek the ultimate high that can only be found within.

As I pointed out earlier, I do recognise the medical benefits of marijuana. But I also recognize there is a better way of implementing its effectiveness in a form that is not illegal nor as harmful to the body.

If people choose to use drugs recreationally, they also choose the consequences in all its forms.....legally, physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually. It is, indeed, their choice and I don't judge them for it any more than I accepted others' judgments against me when I was using. As a counselor, I am very proficient at disagreeing with someone's actions without judging them for it. If not, I'd better seek another line of employment.For anyone interested in learning more about drugs and the human experience, I would heartily recommend the book, "The Thirst for Wholeness" by Christina Grof.

TenderVittles -- the length of my diabetic history has nothing to do with the subject of marijuana use. As far as being a "stupid referee," the very fact that I am a drug/alcohol counselor makes me hesitant to weigh in on posts like this. However, I felt I had something to contribute and I feel I did so without personally attacking anyone...unlike your post. I don't apologize for my opinion, but if it upset you, I'm sorry for that.

As interesting as this thread has been, I'm here mainly to get support for my diabetes, not to debate my personal life philosophies nor upset people who might not agree with me. Everyone here is great, I've learned so very much from you all and am proud to be part of this amazing community. Now I'm going back to posts that involve my disease. Have a great week, all!

[Cyborg]

IMO... The most dangerous thing about marijuana is the munchies. Not helpful to a diabetic.

[TenderVittleS]

I'm sorry Intrigue I didn't mean to "attack" you. But this post is not just about the pros and cons of a drug, it is a post of how marijuana correlates with diabetes. You are in a diabetic forum and IMO your a noobie who was just diagnosed and you have yet to experience alot with this disease. Most of the people here have had diabetes a long time and different drugs and foods have different affects on everybody. I could go to any other website about marijuana but this is diabetic related, thank you and goodnight.

[BriOnH]

Originally Posted by TenderVittleS

I'm sorry Intrigue I didn't mean to "attack" you. But this post is not just about the pros and cons of a drug, it is a post of how marijuana correlates with diabetes. You are in a diabetic forum and IMO your a noobie who was just diagnosed and you have yet to experience alot with this disease. Most of the people here have had diabetes a long time and different drugs and foods have different affects on everybody. I could go to any other website about marijuana but this is diabetic related, thank you and goodnight.

Intrigue is much more mature [diabetic] then you are. There is no need to attack her credibility here.

[TenderVittleS]

Let's see I've had diabetes for 25 years and Intrigue has had it less than a month, you do the math.

[BriOnH]

Originally Posted by TenderVittleS

Let's see I've had diabetes for 25 years and Intrigue has had it less than a month, you do the math.

The measurement for maturity isn't always calculated by years. You are attacking Intriuges credibility when her/his credibility should not be an issue. Anyone can speak their opinions and facts on this subject. To dismiss something someone says, especially when it is sound and right, because they don't have as much experience as you is wrong.

Sorry for going off topic.

[Dewey]

This thread has ceased to be useful. It is no longer about the original topic, and has gone on for 9 pages, now. I'm closing it.