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09-22-2006, 05:14 PM
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| | | I am so fortunate that I teach in a school district that is adament about 504 plans for students. For one it is a Federal law and two if schools were truly smart they would use them because it gives them lots more flexability for those students that need to carry their medical supplies (diabetic/asthmatics). We have students that carry their inhalers, diabetic supplies on them at all times. We also have the drug dogs that come in on occasions too so it is not like we are unaware of what they might find in a locker. I feel like your school should tell students in wheelchairs to park them in the office, blind students to leave their canes etc.......your school administrators and district need to be educated AND aware. You may want to go to a school board meeting and bring it up there...talking about getting the ball started. ALSO how stupid are they???? 504 plans are Federally FUNDED meaning money for the school.
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09-22-2006, 07:05 PM
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| | | What can he do to get a 504 without his father's assistance? |
09-23-2006, 06:02 AM
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| | | If not the legal age of 18 must have a parent/gaurdian go in and sign for him but you can always ask for a gaurdian (surrogate) that is issured by the school district to do this. I can't imagine a parent not wanting the best and to do the best for the child.
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09-23-2006, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Belinda If not the legal age of 18 must have a parent/gaurdian go in and sign for him but you can always ask for a gaurdian (surrogate) that is issured by the school district to do this. I can't imagine a parent not wanting the best and to do the best for the child. | I always had a better grasp of this disease than both of my parents (and, if you knew how stupid I used to be about it, you'd understand how ignorant they both could be), YET they will both try and tell me to this day how I should manage it. So I feel for Nejeda here...
Hey Nejeda: Be sure to ask for some condoms next time you are in the nurse's office. It still amazes me that you can generally get sexual prophylaxis but not Tylenol while in school...Or apparently, the means to manage a life-threatening disease. |
09-23-2006, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by duck I always had a better grasp of this disease than both of my parents (and, if you knew how stupid I used to be about it, you'd understand how ignorant they both could be), YET they will both try and tell me to this day how I should manage it. So I feel for Nejeda here...
Hey Nejeda: Be sure to ask for some condoms next time you are in the nurse's office. It still amazes me that you can generally get sexual prophylaxis but not Tylenol while in school...Or apparently, the means to manage a life-threatening disease. | I'll just ask for birth control... see what they say... |
10-16-2006, 12:03 PM
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| | | I cannot believe they will not let you carry your own insulin and blood tester!!! that is soooo wrong....You def need to fill out that 504 plan this is discrimination and they need to realize that this is YOUR health you are dealing with here.....Please take a stand and good luck!!
when i was in HS i had a gym teacher my sophmore year who was a total workout *****!! she make us run sooo hard and fast everyday.....i had 2 insulin reactions in her class...one time i passed out right in front of her and she wanted me to continue working out the next day cause she didnt want me to have "special treatment" my parents went to our principle adn my doctor called too and i was removed from her class for the rest of the year...it was a nightmare...but she was ignorant and so was my school nurse...they would sit there and say how i would give myself "extra" insulin just to get out of gym....SOOO not true....but my point is unfortuanlly us diabetics go through even worse times in school then normal kids...but i wish you the best of luck and make sure to stand up for yourself!!! your health is tooo important not too!!!!
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10-16-2006, 08:30 PM
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| | ... and we're in 2006!!!!!
Why on earth are you not allowed your supplies??!!? Are you going to stab to death someone with a lancet??! ...
Fight. Don't let them do this to you. Perhaps involve the media...?
Well I rather have diabetes than suffer from a chronic case of stupidity. Sheesh!
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10-16-2006, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Nejeda  I'll just ask for birth control... see what they say... | If I was you... I would carry an insulin pen and a meter and glucose in my backpack or pocket. I would put alcohol wipes in my test kit and I would test in the bathroom stall. End of discussion. (I wanted to say F them, but I'll refrain) |
10-16-2006, 11:19 PM
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| | | Schools absolutely do NOT have to let you carry your insulin at school. In schools in NY the only meds students can possess are insulin in a pump, fast acting inhalers, glucose tabs, and epipens. The other meds have to be in the health cetner.
I see no reason why you can't carry your meter though.
What the school does have to do is make reasonable accomonations. First off, you should be testing before you eat, since if you eat, your bs will be falsely elevated. I would request that I could do this in the lunchroom or bathroom before lunch. Then it should be easy to go to the nurse and take your shot afterwards. I would think it would be easier to keep it there anyways, because then you could refridgerate it if you wanted. Plus, bathrooms aren't the most sanitary place to do these things.
I was lucky in hs, the nurse was right next to the cafetaria. |
10-16-2006, 11:27 PM
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| | | I completely absolutely 100% disagree... |
10-17-2006, 03:45 AM
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| | | My high school tried to tell me I couldnt carry my insulin pen when I first started... til Dad got the Dept of Education involved... WHen it comes to your health, no-one should be allowed to put restrictions on what you carry and where... I know the system is different in the US from Aus, but seriously... thats ridiculous...
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10-17-2006, 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by mg_2204 Why on earth are you not allowed your supplies??!!? Are you going to stab to death someone with a lancet??! ...
Fight. Don't let them do this to you. Perhaps involve the media...? | You might joke that now, but wait till it happens. There's nothing wrong with a simple trenchcoat, now they are banned in 90% of the schools out there. The same applies to solid colored backpacks. Most schools now require clear ones. Why????
Because idiots abuse the system and screw the ones that are good. So if diabetics can carry their insulin and needles with them in school, then that would mean anyone could do that and get away with it. Then there could be a major problem then they'd be banned from even entering school property without parents taking the supplies in.
We just have to deal with it. People still don't undestand the no-liquids on planes. Guess what, people abused it and were days away from blowing up numerous planes, so, we now must all suffer because of the wrongdoings of others. Quote:
Originally Posted by Funnygrl Schools absolutely do NOT have to let you carry your insulin at school. In schools in NY the only meds students can possess are insulin in a pump, fast acting inhalers, glucose tabs, and epipens. The other meds have to be in the health cetner. | That is 100% true and I believe the policy in most, if not every state.
Even with a 504 plan, I think you'd still have to go to the nurses office to get the supplies. It just says what to do when you find out you are running low/high.
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10-17-2006, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by JediSkipdogg Because idiots abuse the system and screw the ones that are good. So if diabetics can carry their insulin and needles with them in school, then that would mean anyone could do that and get away with it. Then there could be a major problem then they'd be banned from even entering school property without parents taking the supplies in. | I hate the fact we live in a day and age where we must always organize our lives in such ways (and suffer from it!) because of all the nuts out there. |
10-17-2006, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyborg I completely absolutely 100% disagree... | I'm not saying that's the way it should be, just that that's the way it it.
Kids who have ADHD have to go to the nurses's office to get their Ritalin at school.
I had stomach problems in HS and had to go to the nurse's office for any stomach meds.
I had to go to the nurse's office for tylenol even.
Insulin isn't an emergency, it's something you take with lunch- at the same time everyday if you follow a school schedule. Why should diabetics recieve any special treatment over what every other kid with a chronic illness has to put up with?
BTW, remember last year when that kid stabbed someone at school with a lancet? We're lucky there are any schools that still allow in classroom testing.
Oh, and another BTW. Your high school experience will be so much more enjoyable if you just accept it, deal with it, and realize you will be done with HS in less than 2 years. |
10-17-2006, 10:45 AM
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| | | Clear backpacks? I've never seen one.
God, I hope my kid has graduated before clear backpacks and glucose meters in the office only come to Canada.
And just to remind everyone of Nejeda's original problem: If she goes to take her insulin in the office before lunch (which is when you should take your insulin), she doesn't yet know what she's going to eat SO how much insulin will she take? She's going to have to take some "average" lunch dose, then go to the cafeteria and try to put together a lunch with the right number of carbs in it. And (do I actually understand this correctly? Another thing I can hardly believe) apparently she's not allowed to bring her own lunch, which would nicely solve the problem.
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