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12-11-2007, 12:38 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gainesville
Posts: 2
| | | I'd like an opinion Hi, I'm a type 1 diabetic. I've been one since I was 17 so about 4 years. I had the lantus and homalog combo until recently when my doctor pressured me into going on the insulin pump. It's been convenient I must say though. Not having to take shot after every meal and the two shots for lantus. I broke the 1 shot up into 2 shots to insure that I'm covered for the day because lantus has a tendancy to leave system before the actual 24 hrs are up. To be honest, I've had more issues with my blood sugars being on the pump. I've only been on the pump for a few months and my doctors haven't been very helpful. The doctor that assists with patients who use the pump insists that I only need .9 units for a basal and 2 unit for 15 grams of carbs. She says that I shouldn't eat more than 90 grams of carbs a day which I've been trying to stick by. I've only met a few ppl who are older with diabetes and I wanted to hear what others think are good guidelines for diabetics. I stay active, I hike and workout but I still feel fatigued in the mornings and throughout the day.. I'm not sure where the problem lies though. | 
12-11-2007, 02:04 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hastings Melbourne Australia
Posts: 2,489
| | Hello and Welcome to the DF family and a happy 21st birthday too. 
I have had diabetes for 36 years 37 in march next year.
I find that having food that lasts me for a good period has it's benefits and makes the lows away. As for keeping the BG's they way you want them is indeed an art to perfect and for as long I have been a diabetic I am constantly learning and having to think ahead what to eat and what you will be doing in the near future physically, Like to eat now and then go to swing an axe later as you have to think like that every day.
Having to do things physically has it's drawbacks as you put pressure on your body, You wake up the insulin that is in your body and suffer a low. Hence the jelly beans that you have with you when you do the physical stuff. It's a cross that we have to bear unfortunate for us. some 20 years ago we have had weaker insulins to take and that made us to have a restricted diet like honey was on the forbidden list and I love honey. And foods like that were so desirable that we cannot have. Today is all about stay away from the monounsaturated fats and to look at good food choices and discover new food and see how that reacts to BG so life goes on and we still keep learning.
__________________ We inject to stay alive!!! So that i can enjoy what you enjoy!!!  Peter... Insulins Novorapid and Levemir. 
So I am well armed to enjoy food of any kind!!! | 
12-11-2007, 02:18 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Canada, Prince Edward Island
Posts: 402
| | | Try and not eat more then 90 grams of Carbs a day????? FOR REALS? Someone else help me out here - but that is rather low is it now? I have some meals over 100g and that is just a single meal. I tend to have a good control over my insulin to carb ration at the moment, and can work it out that way. If someone told me to stick to only 90 g of carb a day, I seriously don't know how I would react to that.
We have Diabetes - I'm still going to enjoy life as much as I can as along as I can keep my levels under control. At the end of the day that is the only thing that counts for me when it comes to the D!
__________________ Mark K~ Type 1
Dx June 21st 2007 HbA1c
June 22, 2007 - 12.8
September 27, 2007 - 6.6
January 3, 2008 - 6.0
April 16, 2008 - 6.1 NovaRapid With Meals Levemir at Bedtime
Acetylsalicylic Acid (ASA) 81 mg Daily
Multivitamin  "Diabetes is for the intelligent and disciplined." | 
12-11-2007, 02:39 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Rothesay, New Brunswick Canada, eh
Posts: 6,033
| | 90g a day? He meant a meal, right? Pffft! Total hogwash. Would his name by chance be Bernstein?
How does he know what your basals should be? He's referring to some stupid chart that gives him normalizations. The proper amount of basal is that which keeps you in range when you don't eat. Bolus for food and basal for basal. If you don't differentiate, you'll get into trouble whenever you vary your meal sizes. You might as well go on the evil mixes.
Read these links and messge me if you have any questions. Integrated Diabetes Services - Diabetes Management Getting Down to Basals :: Diabetes Self-Management HOWTO profile your Basal Rates. Workbook
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12-11-2007, 02:40 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 1,791
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Originally Posted by . sugarfree . .... The doctor that assists with patients who use the pump insists that I only need .9 units for a basal and 2 unit for 15 grams of carbs. She says that I shouldn't eat more than 90 grams of carbs a day which I've been trying to stick by. ..... | It doesn't sound like the doctor is very helpful. The intial pump parameters are only a starting point. Everyone is a bit different and uses settings that suit their unique requirements. Now that you have been using the pump for a while, you really need to take control of it yourself.
Test your basal rate by skipping meals and adjust them until they work the way you want them to. IMO, it is better not to discuss this with the doctor. You need to figure it out for yourself. Do a search on testing basal rates on this forum and you will find lots of info. When you have got your basal rates right, you can then start working on the insulin:carb ratio, and getting it in line with your requirements. Whether you restrict carbs is another issue. Focus on getting your basal rates and insulin:carb ratio right before you consider eating options.
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12-11-2007, 02:43 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Rothesay, New Brunswick Canada, eh
Posts: 6,033
| | And another thing, welcome to the forum! 
__________________ Michael Pollan on CBC In Defense of Food with Michael Pollan T1 1975, MM 722 pump
A1C 4/08 6.0%
Called John, plus many other things
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12-11-2007, 03:16 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hastings Melbourne Australia
Posts: 2,489
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Originally Posted by xMenace 90g a day? He meant a meal, right? Pffft! Total hogwash. Would his name by chance be Bernstein? | LOL You have got to be kidding!!! 90G a day to me is just breakfast Oldius, Don't you feel deprived of energy??
I have a Friend who is thin as a rake!! and I do wonder about his energy as he is complaining on how tired he is *nods head*
You may say that you are what you eat, But you can deprive yourself of energy on just 90Grames of carbs a day.
You must feel miserable.
__________________ We inject to stay alive!!! So that i can enjoy what you enjoy!!!  Peter... Insulins Novorapid and Levemir. 
So I am well armed to enjoy food of any kind!!! | 
12-11-2007, 03:35 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NJ
Posts: 531
| | | 90 a day is way to little. I could not survive on 90 a day. I average about 200 per day and if you basal and insulin to carb ratios are correct you should have no problem with more carbs. You have to owrk at it with a doctors help but it is your work not his. They provide guidelines but you have to change your settings. I change mine without even talkingto the doctor because noone knows your system like you do.
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12-11-2007, 03:53 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bucks County, PA, USA
Posts: 761
| | | Unless you need to lose a lot of weight, 90g per day is not rational.
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12-11-2007, 04:08 PM
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I am a: Type 1.5 | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Kapiti, New Zealand
Posts: 797
| | My fist post in months and I'm going to disagree with everyone... awwww...
90g per day is heaps, in my opinion. And good for BG balance if you spread it out across the day.
My carb intake varies between about 50g a day and maybe 180 on a really heavy day. I really don't see how anyone could eat over 100g in one meal! To me that sounds sickly, and I'd have WAY out of control BGs with that.
Just proving that we're all different
Sugarfree, you'll have to find out what works for you. Doctors can only guide us - Diabetes really is a self managed thing. If 90g of carbs a day is working for you, then that's great  If you don't like it, then find a way to work more cabs in. It's all do-able when you have the knowledge  And it certainly feels better - less constricting - when you're in control of your D - we should never let it control us, imho!
__________________ .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,., .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,., Em Taking on diabetes one meal at a time. It wins the odd battle but I'm winning the war.
Addicted to my Lantus, Novorapid and medicinal chocolate *cough* .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,., .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,., | 
12-11-2007, 04:13 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: illinois
Posts: 3,316
| | | hi sugarfree and welcome to df! i'll let the pumpers handle your questions.... take care,trish
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12-11-2007, 04:14 PM
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I am a: Type 2 | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: illinois
Posts: 3,316
| | | hey emm-welcome back! i was just thinking about ya the other day! weird,huh? trish
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12-11-2007, 04:47 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Mid-Missouri
Posts: 214
| | I love my carbs and I eat lots of them. About 300 grams/day. Just take more insulin to cover them. I'm about your age and this is just my opinion, but my endo and pump nurse mean well, but I take what they say with a grain of salt when it comes to adjusting my basals. Use the fasting tools found everywhere on the internet (I know minimed has one) to test your basals. Then test your I:C ratio. After that you should be free to eat about anything you want.
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Welcome to the forum. Lots of good help here!! | 
12-11-2007, 05:13 PM
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I am a: Type 1.5 | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Kapiti, New Zealand
Posts: 797
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Originally Posted by shockme hey emm-welcome back! i was just thinking about ya the other day! weird,huh? trish | Hey Trish  Good to be back. I had to take a bit of a break from D related sites - I realised I was over-thinking everything! I felt better for a while (and still kept good control, shock horror) but then of course I got to missing everyone *sniffle*. I was very pleased to see that the 'this means war' thread is still going!
__________________ .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,., .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,., Em Taking on diabetes one meal at a time. It wins the odd battle but I'm winning the war.
Addicted to my Lantus, Novorapid and medicinal chocolate *cough* .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,., .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,., | 
12-11-2007, 06:36 PM
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I am a: Type 1 | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: B.C., Canada
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| | | Welcome to DF Sugar!
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