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When counting carbs what do you count with things like Dreamfields macaroni,41 carbs per cup but only 5 digestible carbs? When putting it in food diary which number do i count?

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I would really appreciate any comments. I'm new to this and have been reading non stop. I'm really confused about some things.

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I have no direct experience of this kind of pasta myself but from reading here on DF it does seem that the level of "digestible carbs" can change depending on how they are cooked or re-heated.

 

My advice is to test your BGs around it to see how it works for you... not just once, but a few times and look for repeatable patterns, rather that making conclusions from a single test.

 

There are also many threads discussing this brand... http://www.diabetesforums.com/forum/search/id/1168754/

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From the Dreamfields website:

 

"Q. Why do you say that Dreamfields Pasta only has 5 grams of digestible carbs when the nutrition label states that it has 41 grams of carbohydrates?

 

A. While the total number of carbohydrates is the same as traditional pasta, our patent-pending formula and unique manufacturing process protects all but 5 grams of carbohydrates from being digested. The Dreamfields fiber and protein blend creates a protective barrier to reduce starch digestion in the small intestine. The unabsorbed, or protected carbohydrates then pass to the colon where they are fermented, providing the same health benefits as fiber."

 

So, do you believe the hype? Is it too good to be true?

 

Maybe so, maybe not.

 

The previous posting says it all. Eat and test.

 

Allan

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Many thanks to you both. Sorry,i didnt realize this had been addressed before. I'm still finding my way around the forums.:)

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If you cook Dreamfields al dente, it should have only a small effect on you blood sugars. I usually cook mine for 5-6 minutes (though the box suggests 10 minutes). I love pasta, and this product does not spike my bg very much, and it tastes wonderful!

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Many thanks to you both. Sorry,i didnt realize this had been addressed before. I'm still finding my way around the forums.:)
You are very welcome and please don't hesitate to ask. The forum search can be a useful place to satrt but I am surprised you have had so little feedback.. although it does tend to be quieter around here on the weekends :)

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Dreamfields Pasta is the real deal. When they say 5 digestible carbs that is what it is .. Have eaten this pasta for about 6 months....great for BG control. :)

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Dreamfields Pasta is the real deal. When they say 5 digestible carbs that is what it is .. Have eaten this pasta for about 6 months....great for BG control. :)

 

I'm glad to hear that because I've been eating this as well for about 6 months, but don't recall testing for the 2hrpp, but now that I'm 'back on the bus' here and I will definitely test this out myself. Great thread!!

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There are people on the internet claiming that this pasta doesn't actually decrease the effect on BG at all but just delays it - until well after the time most people would test. Some claimed it caused a spike after 8 hours.

 

I have no way of knowing, but wouldn't touch such a science fiction food with a ten foot pole - especially when what they have actually done to it is concealed - "patent pending". That's a big part of what got us into trouble in the first place! Remember damaged oils (trans fats), manufactured to save us from the "evils" of saturated fats?

 

Aside from that, it is extremely expensive.

 

My suggestion would be to just let the memories go! Pasta, mashed potatoes, french toast, pancakes - these are just not our foods any more!

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I ate Dreamfields macaroni salad twice over the weekend. I tested at 2 hours,4 hours and 7 hours. Only spike was at 2 hours,Bg went up 12 points came back down by 4 hours.:)

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I do well with Dreamfield's too....but not with leftovers...they spike me just like regular pasta would.

 

For me, it was unrealistic to think i'd never again in my life get to have pasta/bread/potatoes...fill in the blank. While I don't eat them anywhere near as much as I did before, it's great to know that there are times I can have my pasta w/o feeling the horrible effects of high blood sugar afterwards.

 

There are some foods i've not had since diagnosis....pancakes, waffles, real soda or sweet tea, white bread....whenever I can find something that tastes good and doesn't affect my blood sugars, I will enjoy it!

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When counting carbs what do you count with things like Dreamfields macaroni,41 carbs per cup but only 5 digestible carbs? When putting it in food diary which number do i count?

 

Simple carbs: Bread, Sugar, Bread, Pasta, and so on, anything that is processed or runs quickly thru the system.

 

Complex carbs: Fruits and Veggies

 

Count your carbs period. digestible carbs? Why would something say that unless it was fiber? Not real sure, but just count your carbs. The more fiber in them the slower they absorb into the system. BUT, a carb is a carb. Better to eat a complex carb because they contain fiber (real not man made fiber). If it says 41g total carb, that is the one you should count.

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If it says 41g total carb, that is the one you should count.

 

Not necessarily when it comes to Dreamfields. If I cooked it properly and bolused for 41g of carbs, I'd go low.

 

I usually bolus for the 5gs of carbs they suggest, provided I cook it about 2 minutes less than they recommend. Also, reheating it turns it into regular pasta for me (i.e., after reheating I'd need to bolus for the 41gs of carbs).

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why does reheating turn it to regular pasta? In the case i used it was not reheated. (macaroni salad leftovers) does that mean it was still 5 carbs?

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why does reheating turn it to regular pasta? In the case i used it was not reheated. (macaroni salad leftovers) does that mean it was still 5 carbs?

 

I think reheating is the same as over-cooking, and it has to be cooked EXACTLY according to directions.

 

As to your macaroni salad, test and see if you notice a difference.

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Dreamfield Pasta has A very low glycemic index of 13 means you may see a lower rise in your blood glucose after eating Dreamfields as compared to traditional white pasta.

Dreamfield Past has 5 grams of digestible carbs which is great for diabetics. Dreamfields also has 5 grams of fiber per serving, similar to whole wheat pasta.

 

Only 5 grams of digestible carbs per serving

• 65% lower glycemic index than regular pasta

• Twice the fiber of regular pasta

• Naturally cholesterol free

• 0 grams of trans fat

• Authentic pasta taste

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Dreamfields pasta has fewer digestible carbs, the same high fiber as 2 cups of broccoli, and it can help you manage your blood sugar. Dreamfields even has the great taste and al dente texture of authentic pasta.

 

Dreamfields contains inulin, a 100 percent natural prebiotic fiber found in common foods such as artichokes, asparagus, garlic and raisins. By providing a food source for the healthy bacteria living in the gut, prebiotics such as inulin may: help promote healthy digestion, support a healthy immune system, and improve calcium absorption.* Inulin is a soluble fiber (like that found in oats, peas and apples) which means it dissolves easily in water and may improve regularity. Soluble fiber may also help reduce cholesterol and glucose levels.

 

You can do the all FAT diet . The no Carb diet. The eat a slice of bread, and then run around the block four times diet, to keep from spiking. Carbs are necessary for good health. Get on a good blanced diet and controll your BG and enjoy life.

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The effect of the carbs are like eating regular pasta after it's been reheated (as in leftovers). Not sure why.

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You can do the all FAT diet . The no Carb diet. The eat a slice of bread, and then run around the block four times diet, to keep from spiking. Carbs are necessary for good health. Get on a good balanced diet and control your BG and enjoy life.
There are essential dietary Fats and Proteins but so far as we currently know there are no essential Carbohydrates... not that I am recommending it but that does mean we can live healthily without eating ANY Carbohydrates.

 

As to a "balanced diet" as I keep saying that is not a universal term that means the same thing to everyone.

 

I would add Don, that not everyone chooses or needs to take insulin as you do... surely that is also part of your BG control?

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There are essential dietary Fats and Proteins but so far as we currently know there are no essential Carbohydrates... not that I am recommending it but that does mean we can live healthily without eating ANY Carbohydrates.

 

As to a "balanced diet" as I keep saying that is not a universal term that means the same thing to everyone.

 

I would add Don, that not everyone chooses or needs to take insulin as you do... surely that is also part of your BG control?

 

Frank, I assumed being on a diabetic forum we would be referring to balanced diabetic diet! I don't believe I made any mention of essential carbohydrates. You are right I am on insulin and have been for 40 years, does that make me a stupid person? I don't think so. In my opinion a lot of type 2's would have a lot better controll with insulin. Instead of running around the block four times everytime you eat a slice of bread.

DEFINITION OF A BLANCED DIET

Getting all of the vitamins and nutrients you need. not eating too much or too less of something. starving yourself or binging is the farthest from a balanced meal. if you follow the food pyramid you are going to be pretty close to a balanced meal. but getting a good portion of each food group is what a balanced meal is, because you are balancing how much you each in each group. liek if you ate only protein and fat like when you go on the atkins diet, it is not balanced because you are not taking in enough carbs but are taking in too much fat. balanced meal also means not eating too much sweets and sodium, or whatever is bad for the body.

A balanced meal is one which contains a healthy variety of foods, giving you a number of different nutrients, including carbohydrates, proteins, vitamins and minerals, possibly fiber, possibly omega-3 fatty acids.

 

Enjoy they are good!!!:)

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I was not calling you stupid Don, but you must admit that by taking insulin you have more freedom with carbs than someone who is not -- for whatever reason. So if your definition of a "balanced diet" would mean I would need to take more insulin than I currently do... I'll give it a pass thanks.

 

Rather than running around after eating bread, you left out the option of choosing not to eat the bread... that is my choice and I would would challenge anyone to show that my diet of real, whole, naturally raised/grown food does not contain all the vital nutrients needed for health.

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I was not calling you stupid Don, but you must admit that by taking insulin you have more freedom with carbs than someone who is not -- for whatever reason. So if your definition of a "balanced diet" would mean I would need to take more insulin than I currently do... I'll give it a pass thanks.

 

Rather than running around after eating bread, you left out the option of choosing not to eat the bread... that is my choice and I would would challenge anyone to show that my diet of real, whole, naturally raised/grown food does not contain all the vital nutrients needed for health.

 

Frank, I take the insulin as needed . My Humalog insulin intake is not a set amount, it varies from meal to meal and day to day. The Lantus is a set amount. Not eating the bread is(like you said) an option. However, I have seen many times on this fourm where people have stated they eat this and that, and then exercise for an hour and a half to burn up the energy. This is done to avoid taking meds or insulin...Everybody to their own!!! I choose to enjoy life...and have done for many years with this happy disease. People can cry over their lot in life, or they can take controll and enjoy and move on. I choose to enjoy and move on!!:D

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I have no issue with your choice to take insulin but It seems that you saying that those who choose to avoid the carbs or choose exercise are NOT enjoying life as you are? Is it your right to make that judgment for them? I for one, am NOT crying over my lot... thanks.

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I agree with the Don about having a balanced diet that does include carbs but I also have to say that someone "running around the block four times" for ANY reason is a smart, healthy decision to make. Physical exercise for any reason should be encouraged.

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Who is advocating a diet that does not include carbs? :confused: Why do I feel that my point is being mis-represented here?

 

Take anything to an extreme and it becomes ridiculous (reductio ad ridiculum) but I certainly see no-one here "visiting" an "All Fat" or a "No Carb" diet. For the record: the Atkins diet also includes carbs... many on it end up eating a great deal more vegetables than they did before. But why let the truth get in the way of a good story.

 

In fact this thread was (originally) about eating a manageable amount of carbs.

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