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I don't know if there's a connection or not, but I lost my gall bladder right after switching to stevia. So I switched back to Splenda.

Sorry Joisey but I can't help myself. Concerning "lost my gall bladder right after switching to stevia. So I switched back to Splenda." My question is did that enable you to 'find' your gall bladder??

 

I mean no disrespect but after reading too many serious posts I felt the need to 'play' a little.

 

I prefer Splenda. I do not have diabetes but why tempt a pancreas to fail?

 

Janice

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In the UK, there is a popular assumption that putting sugar in your tea means you're a bit dim and in a lower socio-economic group, with the more sugar you have, the thicker/poorer you are.

 

Worst of all, the assumption is surprisingly accurate!

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3242363/Two-sugars-cuppa-likely-low-income-bracket-says-new-research-office-tea-round.html

 

 

Worth noting (for the Americans) that this refers to 'proper' tea involving boiling water, not that weird cold stuff you animals insist on drinking  ;)

 

I remember reading something many many years ago that your taste preference (at least for coffee and tea additives) is heavily influenced by the age you started drinking them.  Both plain are usually not all that palatable in children, which is where the preference for cream and sugar usually originates.

 

I didn't really start drinking either until the military and collage, and always liked them plain with nothing added.  I don't know how accurate the article was, but I know it matched up with me and some of my friends who do like additives and started drinking as children.

 

Now that said, my father started drinking coffee as a child and always had it black.

 

I also have a theory that cream and sugar can be masking agents for bad coffee and tea.  :)

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I remember wanting to drink coffee because my Dad and my Grandmother had it every morning.  At first, I needed milk and sugar to even handle it.

 

My grandmother would shame me lol.  In her book, there was only black coffee.  There was no point to it otherwise.  Eventually, I developed the taste for black coffee and I do realize that GOOD coffee does not need cream or sugar.  Coffee can be an incredibly complex beverage much like wine.

 

That being said, I still occasionally make the frou-frou coffee with cream, sweetener, and flavoring to indulge the 10 year old that is still within me.

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I didn't really start drinking either until the military and collage, and always liked them plain with nothing added.

 

If you're going to spell college that way...I'm wondering which SAT you took to get in.  :) 

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I've been too busy to do any posting lately, but the coffee/artificial sweetener discussion has coincided with a little time this morning, soooooo.......

 

I grew up drinking BLACK (really strong) tea because my Scottish grandmother drank it way.  She learned it that way saying that they were too poor to have milk or sugar to put in it (she grew up in the slums of Glasgow).  I still prefer my tea without any milk, cream, or sweeteners....either hot or iced.

 

But coffee is different....I never drank coffee as a kid, even though my parents and extended family had the percolator going for every meal and drank it black.  I started drinking coffee in the 70s when an attorney I was working LONG hours with introduced me to this new little store called Starbucks.  He brought in a Melita drip pot, ground the beans, etc. and greeted me every morning with a big mug of it.  That was my first taste of non-Folgers type of coffee and I was hooked, but I did need cream and sugar to be able to handle it (it was a French roast).  So from the beginning I used cream and sugar in my coffee and soon became addicted, especially when that attorney gifted me with a beautiful Melita drip pot and a bag of beans.  I started walking to that little Starbucks store in Pike Place once a week because at that time, grocery store coffee was pretty much just stuff like Folgers and there weren't any other roasters around.

 

Later I switched to Sweetn'Low instead of sugar.  When I went HFLC several years ago, I eliminated even the artificial sweetener and learned to enjoy my coffee with just heavy cream--and that still feels like a real luxury to me.  Fortunately, there are now French roasts that I like better than Starbucks and I haven't been to that particular store in decades now...but I still absolutely love dark coffee roasts with heavy cream.

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I don't use non-sugar or non-honey sweeteners (I think artificial sweetener is an inaccurate term) often. But last year I started using them (stevia and erythritol) and have noticed that my appetite has increased everytime I eat something which uses those sweeteners. In addition, I found it more difficult to say no to regular (ie, using sugar) desserts or sweet things. Now I appreciate my late GP's strict instructions to rid myself of a sweet tooth instead of switching to non-sugar alternatives.

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The biggest battle for me has been, and still is, portion control.  I have to strictly measure out things like meat and cheese.  If left to my own devices, I always overdo those things.

 

 

I agree.  Portion control is tough, especially when you really like the taste of something.  I just started yesterday on cooking smaller portions of food by measuring first, and I was amazed at the healthy size proportions that really filled me up.  I'm recently diagnosed as pre-diabetic so I'm concerned about losing about 50 #'s.

CB

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I agree.  Portion control is tough, especially when you really like the taste of something.  I just started yesterday on cooking smaller portions of food by measuring first, and I was amazed at the healthy size proportions that really filled me up.  I'm recently diagnosed as pre-diabetic so I'm concerned about losing about 50 #'s.

CB

CB - I saw your introductory post.  Welcome!  Good to see you are jumping in :)

 

It never ceases to amaze me how little a portion of food will actually satisfy me.  The "old" me would have scoffed at what I eat (and how much now).  Back in the day I could easily eat an "Ultimate" Cheeseburger, onion rings, (2) tacos, (7) jalapeno poppers, and a large coke.  Of course with ranch dressing and all the assorted other sauces.  I would even sometimes have a shake to wash all that down with!  2000+ calories and 200+g carbs easily (just in that one meal).

 

Honestly, I know I shouldn't, but I sometimes miss those days.  It's ok though.  I was able to enjoy some truly horrific gastronomical adventures.  I now have new challenges and adventure before me to look forward to.

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